Crazy Idea 2- using pc speakers rather subwoofers - Will this work???

coolaks7 · 14th November 2007, 00:13

can i connect the pc speakers rather subwoofers(2.1 or 5.1) setup to an mp3 player and power it through car battery. the adapter converts the ac current to dc current. so instead of using an adapter we can directy power it through battery. will this work??? this way there will be no need of a HU and an amp. need suggestions.....

anuragn · 14th November 2007, 13:49

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Originally Posted by coolaks7

can i connect the pc speakers rather subwoofers(2.1 or 5.1) setup to an mp3 player and power it through car battery. the adapter converts the ac current to dc current. so instead of using an adapter we can directy power it through battery. will this work??? this way there will be no need of a HU and an amp. need suggestions.....

Should work if the input voltage requirement is 12V. And you would have to take care of spikes and surges, connecting directly without any protection could result in clicks & crackles and might even blow up your amp (inside the PC speakers).
But no harm in trying.

adityamunshi · 14th November 2007, 15:34

Rather than trying to use the 12V from the battery, I think it will be much simpler to use a 220V inverter. It'll be easy to get and you can use the same adaptor.

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Originally Posted by coolaks7

can i connect the pc speakers rather subwoofers(2.1 or 5.1) setup to an mp3 player and power it through car battery. the adapter converts the ac current to dc current. so instead of using an adapter we can directy power it through battery. will this work??? this way there will be no need of a HU and an amp. need suggestions.....

coolaks7 · 14th November 2007, 17:31

yeah the input voltage is 12v only.... can this setup harm car battery also like short circuit etc.???

@aditya

and wats a 220V inverter??? where do we connect it?? is it easily available?? and wats the price???

adityamunshi · 14th November 2007, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolaks7

yeah the input voltage is 12v only.... can this setup harm car battery also like short circuit etc.???

@aditya

and wats a 220V inverter??? where do we connect it?? is it easily available?? and wats the price???

Its a thing which plugs into the 12V cigarette lighter socket and has a 220V Outlet, like the ones we have at have at home. I dont know about the price.

gbpscars · 14th November 2007, 19:09

!!! duh !!!
what's with the ICE section suddenly?
first this...
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do...sting-ice.html

and now this thread

Xitij · 14th November 2007, 19:10

Invertor steps up the 12V input to 220V output.

You could get an invertor locally made for about Rs 3000. These are a little bulky will take up space. If you need a small, sleek one, if someone is travelling abroad you could get one for about 75$ US.

Using a power strip from the invertor output you can connect multiple 220V devices to it. The key is the wattage spec, do not exceed this it will damage the invertor. If the fuse is not correct it can cause a short in your car electricals.

vebmetal · 14th November 2007, 19:37

I think it's got to do with ICE audio equipment being much much more expensive than home / computer audio equipment.

saintsinner · 15th November 2007, 01:15

what's wrong in this section now.. from JBL, ID, Audison, Groundzero. we have moved on to creative or intex speakers in cars?
and I used to crib about sony!! duh!

vebmetal · 21st November 2007, 01:17

I think the point made is valid. There are some kickass computer speaker systems that you can get for 10K (Logitech, Altec Lansing, Creative) which will give you 2.1 (or even 5.1) sound. With mainstream car audio gear, if you want a sub, it means having to spend at least 25K, which (no offence to anyone here) is excessive to many people. My heart always skips a beat when I hear about people spending 50K - 1 Lakh on ICE!

I for one would love to just pop my Logitech 2.1 system in my car, connect it to my mp3 player, and get a very VFM setup for a basic but wholesome sound (i.e. it does the job better than Sony, and doesn't put me below the poverty line). Unfortunately the logistics of doing that renders it totally unfeasible.

rocksterraghu · 21st November 2007, 11:41

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

I think the point made is valid. There are some kickass computer speaker systems that you can get for 10K (Logitech, Altec Lansing, Creative) which will give you 2.1 (or even 5.1) sound. With mainstream car audio gear, if you want a sub, it means having to spend at least 25K, which (no offence to anyone here) is excessive to many people. My heart always skips a beat when I hear about people spending 50K - 1 Lakh on ICE!

People who have spent that much know very well that those 10k x.1 speakers are no good for car audio. Acoustics have to kept in mind. Just like you can't use the 10k speakers in a car, these car speakers can't be used in a cinema hall. I think you understand that I mean.

Besides, I don't know if someone would install a x.1 desktop speakers by sticking the speakers on the dash. lol.

km120 · 21st November 2007, 13:37

But there are people (like me) who cannot afford huge scores but wanted a better audio in their car and also they don't complain about the SQ they get from these desktop x.1 (like Creative). So probably nothing wrong i guess if they think for opting the existing ones instead of spending another 15k plus. I Request Gurus (rockstarraghu, vebmetal, navin, dealtr, aditya ......) not think bad or otherwise for my view and also to help all the people who come up with innovative ideas. Beside we can use the 12v DC from the car ( guess better to use with fuse !) to connect the system (donno abt audio connections though as the system has stereo input). Pls correct me if I am wrong. I would be lucky enough if SAM sir gives his comment on this issue.

vebmetal · 21st November 2007, 14:19

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Originally Posted by km120

I Request Gurus (rockstarraghu, vebmetal, navin, dealtr, aditya ......)

Oh, hell! I am nowhere near that category!! You couldn't be more wrong!! I am a total ICE noob, km120!

mobike008 · 21st November 2007, 14:36

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

Oh, hell! I am nowhere near that category!! You couldn't be more wrong!! I am a total ICE noob, km120!

Dont worry, he is just listing everyone who responded in this thread

Anyways, interesting points but when you look at actual utility of these systems. Each is designed for its special purpose and that cannot be reversed in most cases. For e.g: car audio is specifically designed for closed interiors and therefore SQ will differ to a large extent. ICE Gurus, please add your inputs

vebmetal · 21st November 2007, 14:45

I'll tell you what... one of these days I am going to get frustrated and take an extension cord and hook up my logitech 2.1 system in the car while it's parked in my driveway. Will report on SQ / SPL then.

14th November 2007, 00:13	#1
coolaks7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 43 Thanked: 7 Times	Crazy Idea 2- using pc speakers rather subwoofers - Will this work??? can i connect the pc speakers rather subwoofers(2.1 or 5.1) setup to an mp3 player and power it through car battery. the adapter converts the ac current to dc current. so instead of using an adapter we can directy power it through battery. will this work??? this way there will be no need of a HU and an amp. need suggestions.....
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14th November 2007, 17:31	#4
coolaks7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 43 Thanked: 7 Times	yeah the input voltage is 12v only.... can this setup harm car battery also like short circuit etc.??? @aditya and wats a 220V inverter??? where do we connect it?? is it easily available?? and wats the price???
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14th November 2007, 19:09	#6
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 402 Thanked: 5 Times	!!! duh !!! what's with the ICE section suddenly? first this... http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do...sting-ice.html and now this thread
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14th November 2007, 19:10	#7
Xitij Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	Invertor steps up the 12V input to 220V output. You could get an invertor locally made for about Rs 3000. These are a little bulky will take up space. If you need a small, sleek one, if someone is travelling abroad you could get one for about 75$ US. Using a power strip from the invertor output you can connect multiple 220V devices to it. The key is the wattage spec, do not exceed this it will damage the invertor. If the fuse is not correct it can cause a short in your car electricals.
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14th November 2007, 19:37	#8
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	I think it's got to do with ICE audio equipment being much much more expensive than home / computer audio equipment.
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15th November 2007, 01:15	#9
saintsinner BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 612 Thanked: 11 Times	what's wrong in this section now.. from JBL, ID, Audison, Groundzero. we have moved on to creative or intex speakers in cars? and I used to crib about sony!! duh!
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21st November 2007, 01:17	#10
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	I think the point made is valid. There are some kickass computer speaker systems that you can get for 10K (Logitech, Altec Lansing, Creative) which will give you 2.1 (or even 5.1) sound. With mainstream car audio gear, if you want a sub, it means having to spend at least 25K, which (no offence to anyone here) is excessive to many people. My heart always skips a beat when I hear about people spending 50K - 1 Lakh on ICE! I for one would love to just pop my Logitech 2.1 system in my car, connect it to my mp3 player, and get a very VFM setup for a basic but wholesome sound (i.e. it does the job better than Sony, and doesn't put me below the poverty line). Unfortunately the logistics of doing that renders it totally unfeasible.
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21st November 2007, 13:37	#12
km120 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	But there are people (like me) who cannot afford huge scores but wanted a better audio in their car and also they don't complain about the SQ they get from these desktop x.1 (like Creative). So probably nothing wrong i guess if they think for opting the existing ones instead of spending another 15k plus. I Request Gurus (rockstarraghu, vebmetal, navin, dealtr, aditya ......) not think bad or otherwise for my view and also to help all the people who come up with innovative ideas. Beside we can use the 12v DC from the car ( guess better to use with fuse !) to connect the system (donno abt audio connections though as the system has stereo input). Pls correct me if I am wrong. I would be lucky enough if SAM sir gives his comment on this issue.
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21st November 2007, 14:45	#15
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	I'll tell you what... one of these days I am going to get frustrated and take an extension cord and hook up my logitech 2.1 system in the car while it's parked in my driveway. Will report on SQ / SPL then.
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