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Originally Posted by speedzak It's getting way too confused now! It was a bit earlier but now, it's heels over head!
What OE Alpine does Innova V comes with? I haven't seen it in any of our Innovas nor any I know.
And Innova V comes with dual din MP3 cd player. Cassette player comes in G3, G4 versions.
Monty, please do us all a favour by making your posts less confusing. I, sometimes don't understand what is the message you're forwarding. The 400 tweets post was completely flying over the head. And if you're associated with any audio brand, don't worry to expose it. Many others here also represent different brands. We love (not the other type of love) and respect them. |
arre baba, aisi koi baat nahi hai. bahut simple funda hai. jaise becker merc ko supply karta hai, harmon BMW ko karta hai (may be 7 series only), aur Bose Porsche ko karta hai, waise alpine toyota ko supply karta hai. and har case mein naam nahi hota.
agar keeda hai toh dabba nikallo, achi se khol ke dekh lo, ya kisi bhi kayde ke installer se pooch lo. i cannot make any official statement, for neither do i have proof, nor do i think is alpine in agreement with toyota to disclose the brand name unlike honda.
the 400 tweets post was just a comparison of existing factory setup you get in the V model vs something you had to buy. i made a mistake of referring to them as alpine, which i think created the confusion.
the argument i am making is very simple. the V model comes factory fit with a good music system (which i understand to be an alpine without a label, if anyone can throw more light on this, i would appreciate). there is absolutely no sense is spending 15k in upgrading by a new HU and entry level components, unless one wants a full upgrade with amps. this money is better spent in damping, or in adding a pre-amped base box/tube.
i haven't listened to the G model. however, the V model, the honda civic and the accord, i can from my own personal experience vouch for.
before blindly changing these OE setups, i would recommend any person to demo them and compare them with entry level comps/co-axs. if a difference of 6w, a flashy unit and better sound (by how much?) is worthwhile for an entire new setup, of course nobody's stopped anyone. if anyone thinks they are crap, well, i beg to differ.
the kenwood OE in baleno ain't up to the mark (again my personal opinion). the innova V, i would definitely not change unless i had to step up to a Luccent, or a Hi-energy or any equivalent component set. ditto for civic and accord.
the mahindra's had some arrangement with a chinese supplier, i don't know if that's changed.
the tata's had an arrangement with blaupunkt. i believe the earlier indica's which came didn't have the label on them too, they were plain black HUs but they were made/supplied by blaupunkt as OE. while they may be stripped of certain features, it doesn't question their performance or reliability in any way. i think now they are being supplied with the name and from the current model line ups, at least in safari etc.
maruti had an arrangement with kenwood. however i think now there are maruti's which have nippon make speakers... which i have no clue about.
i hope all is clear. i would appreciate more inputs, more discussions on this. but let us understand, all opinions are personal... at least the gurus representing the industry should refrain from making such absolute statements...
there's also the scientific theory. before i make any statement like kenwood is crap, or OE is crap... how far have i done my homework???
is there anyone here who has changed the OE from the above cars to an entry level comp setup without amps and has noticed a change that's worth 15k?
have people complained after changing their OE speakers in the above cars and getting entry level comps, and not being entirely satisfied with it?
can we generalise and say that OE is crap? and what is our definition of crap? can i say accord OE is crap? can i say innova OE is crap? can i also say as pointed out by another guru, the S class has no remote for the rear seat, so that's crap? can i say that some guy in the forum bought a brand X which cracked/were thought to be fakes so they are crap? can i say that paper cone drivers are cheap so drivers with paper cone are crap?
i don't know. honestly, it's something
you gotta decide.
:-)