[vishnuvijay]

hi guys,

in the JBL website, it is mentioned that the JBL GT5-500C is a 100 mm / 4" component speaker. i downloaded the manual and in that it is mentioned that it is a 131 mm / 5-1/8" speaker. what is the actual size of this speaker? if it is a 4" component speaker, then i can use it in my Wagon R.

[sonic_boom]

If u have downloaded the manual from the JBL site and it is in PDF format , you can trust it over what is on the website . Web-content writers are notorious for glaring errors.

Anyway , I dont think JBL makes 4" compos at all.

[Technocrat]

Yes from what I know there are no 4 inch components from JBL.

[low_bass_makker]

Illusion Electra Series has a 4 inch model.

[Sam Kapasi]

The GT5-500C is a 5.25" component speaker

[vishnuvijay]

thank you guys. i had to hear it from sam.

from browsing through our forum, i found that only Illusion, Kicker, Pricol and Alpine make 4" component speakers. of these Pricol is crap and Alpine is way too expensive ( i saw someone mentioning about Rs.20,000 on one of the threads ). that leaves behind Illusion and Kicker. guys here on the forum prefer Illusion EL 4.1 over the similar Kicker model.

the Illusion EL 4.1 costs Rs.4,999 at mrp. i'm still looking for these in Cochin.

-> is there any other brands that make 4" component speakers at this price?

-> will it be ok if i get a 4" JBL GTO427 coaxial speakers and power it with JBL CS 60.4 with HPF properly set. can i play this setup loud and clear like component speakers?

-> should i buy JBL GTO 427 coaxial speakers and JBL GTO 17T tweeters and run it together or is the GTO 427 alone enough?

[Technocrat]

vishnuvijay: A 4 inch speaker will not go as loud as most of the 5, 5.25, 6 inch + size speakers.

[sonic_boom]

Kenwood has introduced 4" compos this year. But be warned..kenwood products are hard to come by.
Check out the following link :

KFC-s402P

[vikram18]

Personally, I have not seen any brand other than Illusion making 4" components. Alpine, Hertz etc make real good 4" co-axials, but haven't seen or even heard of 4" Alpine components.

[JayD]

Originally Posted by vishnuvijay

the Illusion EL 4.1 costs Rs.4,999 at mrp. i'm still looking for these in Cochin.

These are not available in cochin. I Tried a lot!

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by vikram18

Personally, I have not seen any brand other than Illusion making 4" components. Alpine, Hertz etc make real good 4" co-axials, but haven't seen or even heard of 4" Alpine components.

Kicker also makes, but I suspect the illusion will be miles ahead in sound quality.

[cyclops]

Originally Posted by vishnuvijay

-> will it be ok if i get a 4" JBL GTO427 coaxial speakers and power it with JBL CS 60.4 with HPF properly set. can i play this setup loud and clear like component speakers?

-> should i buy JBL GTO 427 coaxial speakers and JBL GTO 17T tweeters and run it together or is the GTO 427 alone enough?

Even I am in a similar doubt. Is it okay to power 4" co-ax with an amp? is it worth the effort? or the 4" co-ax's sound similar with or without a amp?

[mohang_j]

Originally Posted by cyclops

Even I am in a similar doubt. Is it okay to power 4" co-ax with an amp? is it worth the effort? or the 4" co-ax's sound similar with or without a amp?

cyclops/vishnuvijay
I have GT5-402 co-ax in my alto.There is no need to amplify these speakers.Alto/Wagon R stock locations are very weak and with normal volume(about 20+ in my pio3050) if you don't use hpf in hu ,speaker cone starts hitting the grill.
These speakers are bright(very sharp) you don't have to use separate tweeters.

[RAC]

Originally Posted by mohang_j

cyclops/vishnuvijay
I have GT5-402 co-ax in my alto.There is no need to amplify these speakers.Alto/Wagon R stock locations are very weak and with normal volume(about 20+ in my pio3050) if you don't use hpf in hu ,speaker cone starts hitting the grill.
These speakers are bright(very sharp) you don't have to use separate tweeters.

IMO it is better to amp the fronts. My rear speakers are amped and unless I fade 6-7 points to the front, I struggle to hear anything from the front speakers.
BTY the fronts are Pioneer and JBL in the rear and HU is Pio 7950.

Even with volume at 30, I have not experienced any jarring with the front speakers or grills.

[greenhorn]

the JBL coax's take only about 35W rms, and most HU's provide ~ 22W, so they're already taking a lot of power. but the rears are more powerful, and more sensitive too. I think using a fader would be the right approach. if you want more sound up front/amplify them , use components who can take more power