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Originally Posted by navin Ofcourse the door locations are not ideal. Neither are dash or rear deck locations. In fact of the above 3 choices door locations are your best bet. |
Thanks a ton Navin bhai.The main no nos for stock door locations as told by these shopkeepers are as follows:
1)Water leakage through open or closed windows later on.
2)As I said earlier,acoustically not acceptable(this part is clear now,thanks)
3)Good quality speakers with big magnets wont fit there because of door thickness
4)It may hamper smooth functioning of power windows,especially after fitting tinted glass(llumar or garware icecool)
But in my opinion,the most important reason is that they themselves feel incompetent for the job!! I need real big time help from Kolkata team members who have done ICE in their car and are problem free(I know a guy who had ICE worth more than a lakh in his car,fitted from a reputed shop,in his lancer,but had to uninstall entire lot cause of botched up wiring and problems with SQ and dump them in his chauffeur driven old zen while he had to fit a new ICE in his lancer again from another store)
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Originally Posted by navin The Estilo door panels need damping.
I dont know what the stock locations in the Estilo are but since you sit in the front you should consider putting good component speakers in the front. |
Which company is best suitable for damping jobs considering intense humid conditions of kolkata and bad pot holed roads leading to constant jarring of the car?I meant which company's damping material?
By the way Navin bhai,the stock locations of Estilo are two front doors and two rear doors.They are also disinclined as to fit compos in front,as I have to cut and modify front door panels.They say its not worth the trouble.
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Originally Posted by navin For the bass and rear fill there are 2 options since you dont want a parcel tray or sealed box sub.
I have seen many an install that has a pair of 6x9s in the rear hatch. I am not fond of this install as when the hatch is closed repeatedly the speakers get loose. If your installer can do a good job with this location it might allow you space for a small (8") sub or even 2 6x9s. (which can provide some bass and rear fill).
The other alternate for rear fill (no bass) can be the rear doors. I dont know if the Estilo has stock locations in the rear doors. But if it does use them. |
I really dont want to give up the 'height' in the hatch,if you know what I mean,by fitting a parcel tray at the rear.So I had thought of two coaxials in the rear door and a sub in a appropriate box at the rear or a JBL Bass tube,fitted with a some kind of 'jack' arrangement so that if I need the space for a long trip,I can remove the sub myself from the rear,but the door speakers stays-on to keep me humming!
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Originally Posted by navin Polk's db series are brighter than JBL's GTO and GT5 series and Blau's Thc/Odc series. So you should audition your speakes, amp and Hu before you buy. |
I am yet to know which Polk he was talking about.He said he is going to ring me on tuesday to let me know as well as availability of Stebel Nautilus Brio horn in Kolkata.Today is wednesday,he has not rang me yet!Guess,I will have to ring him up today.Does the Polk db series go well with Pioneer HUs?
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Originally Posted by navin it is much under your million ruppee budget |
Oh!I wish!!
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Originally Posted by navin Damping of front doors and hatch: 5K
HU: Pio, JVC, Blau, Kenwood etc.. with 3 pre out 7K
Amp: Blau, Kenwood, JBL, Pio etc.. 4 channel amp 7k
Speakers: JBL, Polk, Blau, etc.. 2 components and 2 coax speakers 9-12K
Small free air Subwoofer: 5K
Wires and Install: 4K |
What about damping of rear doors and other parts of inside?Maruti because of its quality of make,especially the doors tend to rattle a lot after every few months of driving( atleast that used to happen in my 800)
HU: I was initially keen on buying Pioneer 6950.Now am yet to decide between Pioneer DEH-4050 or DEH-5050.Is it true that,the 4050 or 5050 or even 6050 is sold as 4090 or 5090 with B&W.This is what a particular store told me that essentially they are the same,but their name varies because the 4050 etc are grey market products!!
Amp: I want a 4 channel amp for my 4 door speakers and later on a monoblock for the sub at the rear.Now again the stores(all of them!)tells me that 4 speakers can be run from the HU itself,I just need a 2 channel for the sub!And also if I fit coaxials all around,I dont need any amp,cause the SQ wont be that much that warrants an amp! Someone suggested to go for Sony amp with Pioneer HUs and JBL speakers!Would this mix n' match khitchdi combinations be worth the effort?
Speakers: I am checking on speakers,at the moment.Yet to audition the Polks.They asked for Rs 3900 for a pair of coaxials from Polk.Are these the db series at this price?They said coaxials from Polk are any day better than compos from Pioneer or JBL!.
Sub: Again suggestions needed on that.Do not want my car and rear windows to shake vigorously,lol!But would not mind a decent thump.
Many many thanks Navin Bhai for your time and suggestions,but I think I will keep on asking till I am satisfied.Guess I am very finicky.