How to install music system w/o violating warranty?

DCEite · 25th February 2005, 14:30

I am planning to replace my casette player with a pioneer mp3 player in my 1 year old maruti wagonr car.
Now none of the MGA outlets have Pioneer 5650 systems. So my only option is to get it installed from outside.

So here is my big problem:
The maruti guys have virtually threatened me that if i get a music system installed from outside, that will void the warranty of electrical components. They say that only Maruti standard cable should be used whilst installing a music system, and none of the outside music system dealers are aware of any such thing...
Why does this problem occur only in Maruti cars..??.. any idea??..
Any BHP-ian here who has brought a new Maruti and faced a similar situation?..
What should i do?.. its so very frustrating to listen fo that stupid kenwood 2 speaker system... i want to upgrade.... but how...

ajmat · 25th February 2005, 14:39

That's what they say to scare you. Is there anything in writing ? In the event of a dispute, am sure you can ask them to prove that the head unit damaged your alternator ?

Ask them for the specification of the "standard" cable. End of the day, t is a simple Maruti not a BMW with electronic trickery.

Anyway your car is past the warranty, so stick a finger up at them

pingme · 25th February 2005, 15:14

My friend had Ford Ikon and its same problem! As per the dealers the watuntee of vehicles goes away if you "alter" anything in the product ouside authorised service stations.

I do not think any thing wrong in this. Its true for "any" product under waruntee

DCEite · 25th February 2005, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmat

Anyway your car is past the warranty, so stick a finger up at them

yup.. but i think my car had extended warranty for one more yr... anyways... just keeping my fingers crossed.. and going for it...

manupriyam · 25th February 2005, 18:31

Guys,

As long as manufactureser is not giving it as part of CAR, he can't do anything about it. U can always take them to court.

pingme · 25th February 2005, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by manupriyam

Guys,

As long as manufactureser is not giving it as part of CAR, he can't do anything about it. U can always take them to court.

For what?

If the product is under waruntee, check the Waruntee Terms of Conditions. Most probably it will written that car must be serviced maintained at authorised service centers and any alteration maintainance done by un-authorised personal can break your waruntee agreement...

Read the fine print

normally_crazy · 25th February 2005, 21:24

hey dcite,

u just planning to replace ur head unit?? then y the worry just go and do it ! it will consume the same amount of power i guess - no sweat there !

if u going with the speakers , amp , sub - the works - still do it maan . nuthin major is going to happen to ur car . u r only getting speakers attached .

well as for the maruti specific cables - ask the dealer what the specifications are - chances are he too wont be aware ! he mite just be repeating the stuff to sell his wares !

just go and get the audio install u want - nuthing serious is gonna happen to ur electricals that u will have to go and get it repaired under warranty !

same thing happened to me when i was buying the ikon - i asked the dealer to remove the system and he paid me 12 grand for that. installed an system from outside - 2 years down the line have faced not a single problem !

cheers

v1p3r · 26th February 2005, 00:42

i got a baleno and the same thing happened.

it's always safer to let the maruti guys install, just in case.

what i did, and you can do, is buy the system outside, and give it to them to install. if you're not satisfied with the sound, ask the sound guy to take a look at it.

the 5650 works brilliantly for me.

cheers

viper

The Wolf · 26th February 2005, 02:44

May be Im just off topic,,but listen to me guys...BUY ANY SONY CAR AUDIO EQUIPMENT BUT NOT THE HEAD UNIT.Speakers, subs, amps anything but not the Xplod head unit.There are hell lotsa complaints bout the same regardless of which model it is. Xplod head units-No No!!!Pioner rules.

v1p3r · 26th February 2005, 03:04

not only head units, their rear speakers are pretty awful too.

gamerno1 · 26th February 2005, 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

i got a baleno and the same thing happened.

it's always safer to let the maruti guys install, just in case.

what i did, and you can do, is buy the system outside, and give it to them to install. if you're not satisfied with the sound, ask the sound guy to take a look at it.

the 5650 works brilliantly for me.

cheers

viper

thats the best option u got.

& Wolf is right 'bout the sony Head Units. Alpine & Pioneer rule the world in HUs
~cheers

ajmat · 26th February 2005, 08:32

BTW - what does the Maruti handbook say re: warranties ?

DCEite · 26th February 2005, 11:58

Well... i think the best option for me is as gamerno and v1pr said is to buy from outside and let the maruti guys install it....

off topic:.. i had a pioneer casette system in my old M800 (dont know which model it was, its got those equilizers and fader control, very popular.., and i got it installed from MGA,...it had a very good bass initially, but after about 1 1/2 years, the rear speakers started crackling... again sorry to say i dont know the model, they were oval shaped, and were installed in 6*9 boxes.. are pioneer speakers reliable..??.. do they start to produce crack sound after some use..?... even the Xplods on my friend's skoda have started crackling after 1 year..)..

RJK · 26th February 2005, 17:17

Pioneer speakers much better than Sony speakers IMO. Especially the 6990..thumping bass....even w/o amplifier! I'm sure v1p3r will agree with me here

gamerno1 · 26th February 2005, 18:09

pioneer>sony. it all depends on the maintenance. & u gotto buy a 'made in malaysia' unit. NOT ANYTHING ELSE if ur goin for pioneer
~cheers

25th February 2005, 14:30	#1
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,414 Thanked: 2,525 Times	How to install music system w/o violating warranty? I am planning to replace my casette player with a pioneer mp3 player in my 1 year old maruti wagonr car. Now none of the MGA outlets have Pioneer 5650 systems. So my only option is to get it installed from outside. So here is my big problem: The maruti guys have virtually threatened me that if i get a music system installed from outside, that will void the warranty of electrical components. They say that only Maruti standard cable should be used whilst installing a music system, and none of the outside music system dealers are aware of any such thing... Why does this problem occur only in Maruti cars..??.. any idea??.. Any BHP-ian here who has brought a new Maruti and faced a similar situation?.. What should i do?.. its so very frustrating to listen fo that stupid kenwood 2 speaker system... i want to upgrade.... but how...
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25th February 2005, 14:39	#2
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,860 Thanked: 27,945 Times View My Garage	That's what they say to scare you. Is there anything in writing ? In the event of a dispute, am sure you can ask them to prove that the head unit damaged your alternator ? Ask them for the specification of the "standard" cable. End of the day, t is a simple Maruti not a BMW with electronic trickery. Anyway your car is past the warranty, so stick a finger up at them
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25th February 2005, 15:14	#3
pingme BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 102 Thanked: 2 Times	My friend had Ford Ikon and its same problem! As per the dealers the watuntee of vehicles goes away if you "alter" anything in the product ouside authorised service stations. I do not think any thing wrong in this. Its true for "any" product under waruntee
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25th February 2005, 18:31	#5
manupriyam BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 34 Thanked: Once	Guys, As long as manufactureser is not giving it as part of CAR, he can't do anything about it. U can always take them to court.
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25th February 2005, 21:24	#7
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	hey dcite, u just planning to replace ur head unit?? then y the worry just go and do it ! it will consume the same amount of power i guess - no sweat there ! if u going with the speakers , amp , sub - the works - still do it maan . nuthin major is going to happen to ur car . u r only getting speakers attached . well as for the maruti specific cables - ask the dealer what the specifications are - chances are he too wont be aware ! he mite just be repeating the stuff to sell his wares ! just go and get the audio install u want - nuthing serious is gonna happen to ur electricals that u will have to go and get it repaired under warranty ! same thing happened to me when i was buying the ikon - i asked the dealer to remove the system and he paid me 12 grand for that. installed an system from outside - 2 years down the line have faced not a single problem ! cheers
	() Thanks

26th February 2005, 00:42	#8
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	i got a baleno and the same thing happened. it's always safer to let the maruti guys install, just in case. what i did, and you can do, is buy the system outside, and give it to them to install. if you're not satisfied with the sound, ask the sound guy to take a look at it. the 5650 works brilliantly for me. cheers viper
	() Thanks

26th February 2005, 02:44	#9
The Wolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,118 Thanked: 71 Times	May be Im just off topic,,but listen to me guys...BUY ANY SONY CAR AUDIO EQUIPMENT BUT NOT THE HEAD UNIT.Speakers, subs, amps anything but not the Xplod head unit.There are hell lotsa complaints bout the same regardless of which model it is. Xplod head units-No No!!!Pioner rules.
	() Thanks

26th February 2005, 03:04	#10
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	not only head units, their rear speakers are pretty awful too.
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26th February 2005, 08:32	#12
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,860 Thanked: 27,945 Times View My Garage	BTW - what does the Maruti handbook say re: warranties ?
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26th February 2005, 11:58	#13
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,414 Thanked: 2,525 Times	Well... i think the best option for me is as gamerno and v1pr said is to buy from outside and let the maruti guys install it.... off topic:.. i had a pioneer casette system in my old M800 (dont know which model it was, its got those equilizers and fader control, very popular.., and i got it installed from MGA,...it had a very good bass initially, but after about 1 1/2 years, the rear speakers started crackling... again sorry to say i dont know the model, they were oval shaped, and were installed in 6*9 boxes.. are pioneer speakers reliable..??.. do they start to produce crack sound after some use..?... even the Xplods on my friend's skoda have started crackling after 1 year..)..
	() Thanks

26th February 2005, 17:17	#14
RJK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,140 Thanked: 701 Times	Pioneer speakers much better than Sony speakers IMO. Especially the 6990..thumping bass....even w/o amplifier! I'm sure v1p3r will agree with me here
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26th February 2005, 18:09	#15
gamerno1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Andheri (w), Mumbai Posts: 408 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	pioneer>sony. it all depends on the maintenance. & u gotto buy a 'made in malaysia' unit. NOT ANYTHING ELSE if ur goin for pioneer ~cheers
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