NHC - JBLified in tune with Pioneer 5050UB to boom with Eclipse XA1000!

panky12345 · 20th November 2008, 07:07

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Originally Posted by superbhikari

4) Complete Wiring change - Bull Amp Wiring (8 Gauge) - Rs. 5000/-

Are you sure??

mobike008 · 20th November 2008, 10:16

SB, thats a lot of money spent only on wiring and damping. Hope you have some saved up for actual equipment.

Btw, even i agree wiring set for 5K seems too steep. Is that accurate?

karankapoor · 20th November 2008, 10:51

should be 4g wiring kit,
and if it is a complete wiring kit then why you purchased the kicker rca
bull audio 4g kit comes with rca.

cooldude1988765 · 20th November 2008, 11:50

Why dont you use the mono on the bass tube now and upgrade to a sealed/ported sub when you save up.

superbhikari · 21st November 2008, 02:34

Some Correction regarding Wiring & Damping:
1) Bull Amp Wiring Kit - 4GA - Rs. 5K
2) 2 Scoche RCA - Rs. 1.3K
3) Kicker Speaker wires - Rs. 1.1K
4) Damping - Rs. 3.2K
Total Bill - Rs. 10.5K

There was no RCA in the Bull Amp Wiring Kit. There was Stinger and Kicker Amp Kit which includes RCA as well and costs around 8K and 9K respectively at Driven.

karankapoor · 21st November 2008, 10:32

oh my bad i thought that 4g bull kit comes with 2 ch rca well i think i am wrong.

gunbir · 24th November 2008, 14:27

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Originally Posted by karankapoor

oh my bad i thought that 4g bull kit comes with 2 ch rca well i think i am wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by superbhikari

Some Correction regarding Wiring & Damping:
1) Bull Amp Wiring Kit - 4GA - Rs. 5K
2) 2 Scoche RCA - Rs. 1.3K
3) Kicker Speaker wires - Rs. 1.1K
4) Damping - Rs. 3.2K
Total Bill - Rs. 10.5K

There was no RCA in the Bull Amp Wiring Kit. There was Stinger and Kicker Amp Kit which includes RCA as well and costs around 8K and 9K respectively at Driven.

Do check again, both Bull Audio kits come with one two channel 5 meter RCA Interconnect. If you didn't get one, please take it up with the installer.

superbhikari · 24th November 2008, 17:32

Will be visiting Driven for Mono install this weekend probably. Will check for RCA's in Bull Audio Kit as suggested by Gunbir Ji.

superbhikari · 3rd December 2008, 01:09

I am going to connect the JBL Bass Tube wit the following specs to the Eclipse Mono. But a little bit doubt if the Sub could handle the power from the Mono. Gurus, please throw some light on this.
JBL 1204 Bass Tube :
SPECIFICATIONS

General
Type Bass-Reflex Subwoofer Tube
Power Handling, RMS 250W
Power Handling, Peak 1000W
Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 90dB
Frequency Response 35Hz – 200Hz
Impedance 4 Ohms

Eclipse Xa-1000-
Details:
1-channel car amplifier
320 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (480 watts RMS at 2 ohms)
CEA-2006 compliant
variable low-pass filter (50-200 Hz, 18 dB/octave)
variable bass boost (0-8 dB at 45 Hz)
subsonic filter (18 Hz, 18 dB/octave)
Class-D amplifier design
MOSFET power supply
fuse rating: 20A x 2

panky12345 · 3rd December 2008, 10:54

since the JBL bass tube is 4 ohms.. given the specs, it would be all fine. no harm, go ahead!

frankmehta · 4th December 2008, 00:05

bass tube? are you sure you want one? why dont you get a good sub in a sealed box. im telling you, even the largest of bassheads fall in love with the tight kick of a good subwoofer, rather than the constant boom of the bass tube.

superbhikari · 5th December 2008, 02:50

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

bass tube? are you sure you want one? why dont you get a good sub in a sealed box. im telling you, even the largest of bassheads fall in love with the tight kick of a good subwoofer, rather than the constant boom of the bass tube.

I already had the bass tube will upgrade at later stage. Lack of Vitamin m, you know. IE setup truly made me a superbhikari

ilovefls · 5th December 2008, 14:50

The combination of Kenwood 8401 and Bull sub in a porter enclosure should cost you around 14k, I have the exact same combination in my RS, along with Bull components in the front and rear.

superbhikari · 26th January 2009, 01:12

Hi Friends
Just got the Eclipse Mono installed today. I know it's long time but was busy in family function and Office work. Here is the experience -
Now Eclipse is powering the JBL Bass Tube, Sony 4 ch amp is powering the front JBL Components and rear JBL ovals. The behaviour of Bass tube has noticably changed. The Bass become more tunable and tha bass is quite tight not too much boomy as earlier. Bass is in sync with the music.
The other noticable change was the sound from rear speakers. Earlier it was like most of the sound coming from the front speakers (as abviously since the rears were not amplified) but now the sound is much better, seems to be perfect soundstage.
The system is working quite well as of now but this is just 3 hrs. of experience with the system.
The future upgrades (in phases) i have in mind are as follows -
1) Front comps - Illusion El 6.1 / Rainbow / iD / JBL Power series
2) 4 ch- amp - JBL GTO 1004
3) Sub - iDq v3

I request suggestions regarding my future upgrades. If any other option you find suitable.

navin · 27th January 2009, 12:14

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Originally Posted by superbhikari

Got my Eclipse XA-1000 Mono today from US. ($150)
1) If i put Mono, it make sense to sell off the JBL Bass Tube and go for a DVC sub. Driven suggested me to go for iDv3

2) The other option i am thinking is - I sell off the Eclipse XA-1000 and upgrade my Sony 4-ch amp. to Kenwood 8401 and JBL basstube to Bull sealed sub. In this way, i don't need to put any extra money right now. What say?.

Use the XA1000 with the JBL tube. The V3 really needs a better amp thant he XA1000 and upgrade the Sony 4ch. to the 8401 (about 5K).

20th November 2008, 10:16	#17
mobike008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 11,694 Thanked: 14,783 Times View My Garage	SB, thats a lot of money spent only on wiring and damping. Hope you have some saved up for actual equipment. Btw, even i agree wiring set for 5K seems too steep. Is that accurate?
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20th November 2008, 10:51	#18
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	should be 4g wiring kit, and if it is a complete wiring kit then why you purchased the kicker rca bull audio 4g kit comes with rca.
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20th November 2008, 11:50	#19
cooldude1988765 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 187 Times	Why dont you use the mono on the bass tube now and upgrade to a sealed/ported sub when you save up.
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21st November 2008, 02:34	#20
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	Some Correction regarding Wiring & Damping: 1) Bull Amp Wiring Kit - 4GA - Rs. 5K 2) 2 Scoche RCA - Rs. 1.3K 3) Kicker Speaker wires - Rs. 1.1K 4) Damping - Rs. 3.2K Total Bill - Rs. 10.5K There was no RCA in the Bull Amp Wiring Kit. There was Stinger and Kicker Amp Kit which includes RCA as well and costs around 8K and 9K respectively at Driven.
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21st November 2008, 10:32	#21
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	oh my bad i thought that 4g bull kit comes with 2 ch rca well i think i am wrong.
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24th November 2008, 17:32	#23
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	Will be visiting Driven for Mono install this weekend probably. Will check for RCA's in Bull Audio Kit as suggested by Gunbir Ji.
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3rd December 2008, 01:09	#24
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	I am going to connect the JBL Bass Tube wit the following specs to the Eclipse Mono. But a little bit doubt if the Sub could handle the power from the Mono. Gurus, please throw some light on this. JBL 1204 Bass Tube : SPECIFICATIONS General Type Bass-Reflex Subwoofer Tube Power Handling, RMS 250W Power Handling, Peak 1000W Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 90dB Frequency Response 35Hz – 200Hz Impedance 4 Ohms Eclipse Xa-1000- Details: 1-channel car amplifier 320 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (480 watts RMS at 2 ohms) CEA-2006 compliant variable low-pass filter (50-200 Hz, 18 dB/octave) variable bass boost (0-8 dB at 45 Hz) subsonic filter (18 Hz, 18 dB/octave) Class-D amplifier design MOSFET power supply fuse rating: 20A x 2
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3rd December 2008, 10:54	#25
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	since the JBL bass tube is 4 ohms.. given the specs, it would be all fine. no harm, go ahead!
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4th December 2008, 00:05	#26
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	bass tube? are you sure you want one? why dont you get a good sub in a sealed box. im telling you, even the largest of bassheads fall in love with the tight kick of a good subwoofer, rather than the constant boom of the bass tube.
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5th December 2008, 14:50	#28
ilovefls BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 87 Thanked: 0 Times	The combination of Kenwood 8401 and Bull sub in a porter enclosure should cost you around 14k, I have the exact same combination in my RS, along with Bull components in the front and rear.
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26th January 2009, 01:12	#29
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	Hi Friends Just got the Eclipse Mono installed today. I know it's long time but was busy in family function and Office work. Here is the experience - Now Eclipse is powering the JBL Bass Tube, Sony 4 ch amp is powering the front JBL Components and rear JBL ovals. The behaviour of Bass tube has noticably changed. The Bass become more tunable and tha bass is quite tight not too much boomy as earlier. Bass is in sync with the music. The other noticable change was the sound from rear speakers. Earlier it was like most of the sound coming from the front speakers (as abviously since the rears were not amplified) but now the sound is much better, seems to be perfect soundstage. The system is working quite well as of now but this is just 3 hrs. of experience with the system. The future upgrades (in phases) i have in mind are as follows - 1) Front comps - Illusion El 6.1 / Rainbow / iD / JBL Power series 2) 4 ch- amp - JBL GTO 1004 3) Sub - iDq v3 I request suggestions regarding my future upgrades. If any other option you find suitable.
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