Fake Vs Original Focal Components

frankmehta · 10th February 2009, 01:36

hahahahha like sumsang! and foccal and sonny and pannasonic

ramie2400 · 10th February 2009, 01:43

the hottest market for fakes as of now are korean pioneer's and sony speakers and the champion series blue cone pioneer subwoofer,whic are best deals for our touristwallas

There's even something called JVL which is a 4channel transparent amplifier copy of the famous 75.4

quickdraw · 10th February 2009, 02:48

Not getting

here.

Please everyone get together post some pics, the swift was away so will definitely get pics by tomorrow. And the details are of the India distributor do call them before making a purchase.

arpandiv · 10th February 2009, 06:51

If you dont buy them through india distributor it will be cheaper (alternative is to buy it online,get someone to buy it for you abroad etc) Not saying that we must do that,just laying out options.

chiragh_bir · 10th February 2009, 10:24

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Originally Posted by abhibh

wrong there buddy. Loads of dealer stock high end stuff. Car Life stocks JBL Power & now GTi series too i think, Infinity High end etc. Even Auto Center has good stuff.

Next time you go to him ask him why doesn't he stock DLS products

till that level i know many shops.. who stocks Kicker ( including solo x ) , Hertz , Fusion , Dynamat , focals etc in chandigarh? rest other brands are easily avaible with him ..once i think he even had audison amps in stock

chiragh_bir · 10th February 2009, 13:45

i will go again to SK motors to get some pics of focals !!

but i have seen them and there is no difference even in packing as shown for original stuff !!

Sam Kapasi · 10th February 2009, 13:49

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Originally Posted by ramie2400

even in the US of A and U of K you get alot of fake car audio products,
Ramie

What is this U of K? United of Kingdom?

superbhikari · 10th February 2009, 14:22

Got the contact no. of the person dealing in Focals/MTX/Morel/DLS in Delhi from the Distributor in India.
He quoted the price for Focal components to be Rs. 16k (B&W).

low_bass_makker · 10th February 2009, 14:26

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Originally Posted by superbhikari

Got the contact no. of the person dealing in Focals/MTX/Morel/DLS in Delhi from the Distributor in India.
He quoted the price for Focal components to be Rs. 16k (B&W).

Which would for approx 6-8k in the world market. The above brands are done by PTC and they are very good in over pricing. I have a DLS iridium 6.3 with me which costs approx 78k in India but I got it for less than 50k with 12k customs and 8k shipping inclusive (and I still have the receipts of the same)

gunbir · 11th February 2009, 09:53

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Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

..once i think he even had audison amps in stock

That's interesting cuz we never sold him anything, specifically no Audison amps! Since we were the only distributor for Audison in India so far, you can be certain they were gray market.

It may be possible other stuff he carries may be gray also. Many dealers try to sell off gray stuff at B&W prices, and most successfully manage to.

chiragh_bir · 17th February 2009, 15:09

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Originally Posted by gunbir

That's interesting cuz we never sold him anything, specifically no Audison amps! Since we were the only distributor for Audison in India so far, you can be certain they were gray market.

It may be possible other stuff he carries may be gray also. Many dealers try to sell off gray stuff at B&W prices, and most successfully manage to.

he import lots of stuff from US and all so could be possible he got 1-2 audison amps to keep his collar up in local market.

quickdraw · 17th February 2009, 22:30

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Which would for approx 6-8k in the world market. The above brands are done by PTC and they are very good in over pricing. I have a DLS iridium 6.3 with me which costs approx 78k in India but I got it for less than 50k with 12k customs and 8k shipping inclusive (and I still have the receipts of the same)

Ouchies, I hope I was not taken for a ride! Do audio components conk off? Is it worth buying with bill and all? How are the DLS heard a lot about them?

abhibh · 17th February 2009, 22:40

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Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

he import lots of stuff from US and all so could be possible he got 1-2 audison amps to keep his collar up in local market.

I dont know what collar will he keep up in the market. His installers don't even connect both the coils of the DVC sub. Whats the use of keeping high end equipment when you cant even install them properly.

Classic example:
I was hunting temporary sub in August. Went to him and checked out some subs. Zeroed down to JBL sub and told him i will use it in sealed enclosure. Showed his installer the enclosure and he says "isme ched toh hai nahin" No hole or port in sub (by whole they mean slot port).

Last but no the least the guy has a major attitude problem. I won't mind getting into audio business and opening a shop next to him just to see the look on his face!

@quickdraw i have heard some DLS compos. I don't know the price for sure. They were around 12k MRP they sounded good. But my tastes have changed a lot since then

superbhikari · 18th February 2009, 01:47

A dealer in Lajpat Nagar quoted Rs. 8k for entry level DLS components with B&W.
@abhibh - How are DLS you heard in comparison to your Rainbow?

abhibh · 18th February 2009, 01:59

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Originally Posted by superbhikari

A dealer in Lajpat Nagar quoted Rs. 8k for entry level DLS components with B&W.
@abhibh - How are DLS you heard in comparison to your Rainbow?

World apart. Cannot be compared. Rainbow beats them hand down. Even the new Hertz / Bull beats them hand down.

But then again everyone has different music tastes.

10th February 2009, 01:36	#31
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	hahahahha like sumsang! and foccal and sonny and pannasonic
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ramie2400 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,903 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	the hottest market for fakes as of now are korean pioneer's and sony speakers and the champion series blue cone pioneer subwoofer,whic are best deals for our touristwallas There's even something called JVL which is a 4channel transparent amplifier copy of the famous 75.4
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10th February 2009, 02:48	#33
quickdraw Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,284 Thanked: 2,693 Times View My Garage	Not getting here. Please everyone get together post some pics, the swift was away so will definitely get pics by tomorrow. And the details are of the India distributor do call them before making a purchase.
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arpandiv BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 445 Thanked: 61 Times View My Garage	If you dont buy them through india distributor it will be cheaper (alternative is to buy it online,get someone to buy it for you abroad etc) Not saying that we must do that,just laying out options.
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10th February 2009, 13:45	#36
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	i will go again to SK motors to get some pics of focals !! but i have seen them and there is no difference even in packing as shown for original stuff !!
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10th February 2009, 14:22	#38
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	Got the contact no. of the person dealing in Focals/MTX/Morel/DLS in Delhi from the Distributor in India. He quoted the price for Focal components to be Rs. 16k (B&W).
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18th February 2009, 01:47	#44
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	A dealer in Lajpat Nagar quoted Rs. 8k for entry level DLS components with B&W. @abhibh - How are DLS you heard in comparison to your Rainbow?
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