Best Mono Block below 15k

navpreet318 · 13th May 2009, 20:39

I don't know from where you've heard that the 9104D has a bad reputation.Audition it.Its supposed to be pretty good.also even if its not equal to the 9103D it'll still be better than other amps in the price band.

go and audition one and then post up.remember how you've changed choices and the truth has come out about a lot of stuff.

karankapoor · 13th May 2009, 22:53

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Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

using 2 JBL subs and am planning for 2 bigger Blaupunkt for future !!

by the way which subwoofer are you planning to feed with this amp (not decided yet) and as for the 9104d it can handle 2 sub woofer easily.

kenwood states 900 @ 2Ω and 450 rms to each sub is enough to shake your world.

Invinsible · 14th May 2009, 00:33

This amp has been discussed earlier in some thread don't remember exactly which one.
Have done a lot of reading on this amp and come to conclusion reading from various forums is that this amp is overrated. Truly it is a great VFM no doubt about it. It sounds clean for its price.
Here's a review on it.
May be this would help you.

Kenwood KAC-9104D - Car Audio & Electronics

karankapoor · 14th May 2009, 00:43

i too remember this has been discussed somewhere on the forum, and somebody said it can do 700/750 wrms. but in which thread it was discussed

edit: here is the link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...onobloc-3.html

and it was you who said 9104 is overrated.

Invinsible · 14th May 2009, 01:02

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Originally Posted by karankapoor

i too remember this has been discussed somewhere on the forum, and somebody said it can do 700/750 wrms. but in which thread it was discussed

edit: here is the link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...onobloc-3.html

and it was you who said 9104 is overrated.

Well Karan I just said that based on what I read during my research on this amp plus what caraudiomag says about it. Even Crutchfield.com had confirmed with me on this. They too accepted it's overrated.
I strongly believe that any product should satisfy one in a particular budget one has, it should be worth the price in the end. And I suppose Kenny does that. Even if it produces 700RMS or so, it's still good for the price I suppose.

karankapoor · 14th May 2009, 01:06

oh you took me wrong, was just kidding.
i agree with you there are possibilities that this amp is overrated, but again will be a good buy at the price it comes at.

Invinsible · 14th May 2009, 01:18

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Originally Posted by karankapoor

oh you took me wrong, was just kidding.
i agree with you there are possibilities that this amp is overrated, but again will be a good buy at the price it comes at.

No not at all bro, I know you were kidding

I am one of those who does a lot of research on a given product as having a audition to the not so common product is difficult. Well that's just me

By the way what's the price of one of those?

navpreet318 · 14th May 2009, 01:47

Well frankly other than the super expensive genesis and all, all other amp are generally over rated.the kenwood stated to put out 900 if it even gives 600 would be good for its price.This goes for amps in this price range.Sony,Pioneer,Jbl etc.

frankmehta · 14th May 2009, 01:59

haan. but then for the application it wouldnt be fine. this time chiragh needs something that does 900. he already has something that does 600 (his 1004!!!). so the 9104 wouldnt be much of an upgrade.

nitinralli · 14th May 2009, 03:07

What about JBL 700.1. Isnt that a nice amp??

karankapoor · 14th May 2009, 09:04

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Originally Posted by Invinsible

By the way what's the price of one of those?

last frank had mentioned the gray market price for jbl 700 and 9104, 15k.

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Originally Posted by navpreet318

Well frankly other than the super expensive genesis and all, all other amp are generally over rated.the kenwood stated to put out 900 if it even gives 600 would be good for its price.

there is one more brand that i had used which is underrated and that is tru technology, or you can say they do what they say, not like other so call hi end amps which stated 2000/2500 and can't even do 1500.

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Originally Posted by nitinralli

What about JBL 700.1. Isnt that a nice amp??

never used one, but heard good thing about it.

chiragh_bir · 14th May 2009, 10:36

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Originally Posted by navpreet318

I don't know from where you've heard that the 9104D has a bad reputation.Audition it.Its supposed to be pretty good.also even if its not equal to the 9103D it'll still be better than other amps in the price band.

go and audition one and then post up.remember how you've changed choices and the truth has come out about a lot of stuff.

very true!!

This is Why am inclined towards kenwood !!

Asked 2-3 Shopkeepers to look for 9103 D !!

There is one Strange problem which was told by some one..

According to him as soon as JBL 7001 hits peak power the Bass level comes down , How true is that?

karankapoor · 14th May 2009, 11:29

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Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

According to him as soon as JBL 7001 hits peak power the Bass level comes down , How true is that?

according to abhinav this was the same problem he was having with 14001, he sold that amp and upgraded to audiobank now again he is planning to upgrade to some thing better.

chiragh_bir · 14th May 2009, 11:30

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Originally Posted by karankapoor

according to abhinav this was the same problem he was having with 14001, he sold that amp and upgraded to audiobank now again he is palnning to upgrade to some thing better.

is that really a problem or gains not set properly ?

And that amp was too small for massive 2 GZ subs !!

he is selling Audiobank cause he is moving abroad !!

karankapoor · 14th May 2009, 11:52

i don't no whether this is a amp problem or gains are not set accordingly or the enclosure is not made properly. and no the amp is not to small for the subs as they can take upto 1kw power and the amp is rated as 1.5 kw @ 2 oh so 750 wrms is sufficient for them. but how he was using it.

no i don't think that is the reason he selling it.

13th May 2009, 20:39	#16
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,264 Thanked: 2,983 Times	I don't know from where you've heard that the 9104D has a bad reputation.Audition it.Its supposed to be pretty good.also even if its not equal to the 9103D it'll still be better than other amps in the price band. go and audition one and then post up.remember how you've changed choices and the truth has come out about a lot of stuff.
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14th May 2009, 00:33	#18
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	Review on KAC-9104D This amp has been discussed earlier in some thread don't remember exactly which one. Have done a lot of reading on this amp and come to conclusion reading from various forums is that this amp is overrated. Truly it is a great VFM no doubt about it. It sounds clean for its price. Here's a review on it. May be this would help you. Kenwood KAC-9104D - Car Audio & Electronics Last edited by Invinsible : 14th May 2009 at 00:34.
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14th May 2009, 00:43	#19
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	i too remember this has been discussed somewhere on the forum, and somebody said it can do 700/750 wrms. but in which thread it was discussed edit: here is the link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...onobloc-3.html and it was you who said 9104 is overrated. Last edited by karankapoor : 14th May 2009 at 00:50.
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14th May 2009, 01:06	#21
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	oh you took me wrong, was just kidding. i agree with you there are possibilities that this amp is overrated, but again will be a good buy at the price it comes at.
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14th May 2009, 01:47	#23
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,264 Thanked: 2,983 Times	Well frankly other than the super expensive genesis and all, all other amp are generally over rated.the kenwood stated to put out 900 if it even gives 600 would be good for its price.This goes for amps in this price range.Sony,Pioneer,Jbl etc.
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14th May 2009, 01:59	#24
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	haan. but then for the application it wouldnt be fine. this time chiragh needs something that does 900. he already has something that does 600 (his 1004!!!). so the 9104 wouldnt be much of an upgrade.
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nitinralli Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,520 Thanked: 1,098 Times View My Garage	What about JBL 700.1. Isnt that a nice amp??
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14th May 2009, 11:52	#30
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	i don't no whether this is a amp problem or gains are not set accordingly or the enclosure is not made properly. and no the amp is not to small for the subs as they can take upto 1kw power and the amp is rated as 1.5 kw @ 2 oh so 750 wrms is sufficient for them. but how he was using it. no i don't think that is the reason he selling it.
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