Car Audio for Baleno

Buffetfan · 24th October 2005, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by filcord

Thanks Buffetfan, but would this be a single s/woofer fitted in a hole made in the rear deck or a s/woofer in it's own box placed in the trunk (something like Soomoku advertises)? I would prefer the latter if the sound is good, since it avoids cutting the rear deck.

My subwoofer is placed in the boot (have not cut the rear tray)..thoug I did cut the rear tray to fit the 6*9 speakers and the sound is pretty good...
this is what I have in my baleno

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showpo...6&postcount=62

vivek_pinkoo · 25th October 2005, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Oy Pinkoo... where are those photos?

Sorry for the delay.
Pictures are ready now

Right Speaker

Left Speaker

Complete Rear view

JVC HU

Little bit off topic here (just wanted to put picture thats all)

Front car view

Wheel

Buffetfan · 25th October 2005, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

You have to buy the adidtional 6x9 spacer tray. In fact if i were you i'd get one made so that the 6x9 fires a bit forward into the passenger cabin this means the spacer tray will have a tapered thickness. You can get a slight 5-10 degree advantage with this technique and it would help your HF response.

Navin,
I had the initial installation on my 936 done with the spacer tray....but did not like the trable much and the bass was also muted...I went for the tray cutting after that and it sounds much better now

navin · 26th October 2005, 09:12

vivek pinkoo you could use better speaker wire. even a cheapie like me does! :-)

vivek_pinkoo · 26th October 2005, 10:14

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Originally Posted by navin

vivek pinkoo you could use better speaker wire. even a cheapie like me does! :-)

Is there any problem with this wire?

navin · 26th October 2005, 10:53

dont look very nice. something like belden speaker wire would help.

Sam Kapasi · 26th October 2005, 11:41

OK Pinkoo, I dont mean to burst your bubble here, but this mounting is not right.

You were right, the car is uncut and unmodified. But the hole aboive the speaker is smaller than the speaker itself. Ergo, some parts of the speaker are firing straight into the metal. The very point of having a larger cone surface area (the advantage of a 6X9 over a 6" speaker) is lost.

Secondly, the rubbers are used as spacers just to lower the speaker over the natural curves (

) of the metal. But the speaker is not insulated at all.
I mean, for a speaker to work in an IB (Infinite baffle) mode, the front has to be reasonably insulated from the rear for any sort of bass to be generated. Otherwise the low frequency generated from the front is simply cancelled out by the rear.

Because of the aperture (6" circular) over the 6X9, i am sure you get a reasonable amount of mids and highs from the rear but little or no bass.

My suggestions: Either cut an oval hole in the metal and mount the speakers correctly.
Or if you are averse to cutting the car, use a small baffle board that will raise the speakers slightly and enable you to mount them on the rear correctly.

Or replace those speakers with a 6" round speaker. Trust me, it will sound better than the way it is currently mounted.

Cheers. (somebody stop me! I think I've got Navinitis!)

vivek_pinkoo · 26th October 2005, 12:01

Thanx Sam for the observations and suggestions. Will do the needful and get back to u with new changed installation.

jkdas · 26th October 2005, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trident

Are there any reliable Sony/JVC/Pioneer head units that play cassettes, audio CDs and MP3s? I have a good collection of audio cassettes and hate to loose them.

clarion ABB341MP

check autocar, oct issue

navin · 27th October 2005, 10:42

I think Sanyo also makes some...
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=13414

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=14073

navin · 27th October 2005, 10:43

and there are plenty of 2 DIN alternates too....

jkdas · 27th October 2005, 12:14

i saw the clarion one on autocar advt. and hence posted it as it should be easily avaiable in india. and yup, ther 2 many alternatives for din units.

26th October 2005, 09:12	#49
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 24,335 Thanked: 6,976 Times	vivek pinkoo you could use better speaker wire. even a cheapie like me does! :-)
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26th October 2005, 10:53	#51
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 24,335 Thanked: 6,976 Times	dont look very nice. something like belden speaker wire would help.
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26th October 2005, 11:41	#52
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 1,841 Times View My Garage	OK Pinkoo, I dont mean to burst your bubble here, but this mounting is not right. You were right, the car is uncut and unmodified. But the hole aboive the speaker is smaller than the speaker itself. Ergo, some parts of the speaker are firing straight into the metal. The very point of having a larger cone surface area (the advantage of a 6X9 over a 6" speaker) is lost. Secondly, the rubbers are used as spacers just to lower the speaker over the natural curves () of the metal. But the speaker is not insulated at all. I mean, for a speaker to work in an IB (Infinite baffle) mode, the front has to be reasonably insulated from the rear for any sort of bass to be generated. Otherwise the low frequency generated from the front is simply cancelled out by the rear. Because of the aperture (6" circular) over the 6X9, i am sure you get a reasonable amount of mids and highs from the rear but little or no bass. My suggestions: Either cut an oval hole in the metal and mount the speakers correctly. Or if you are averse to cutting the car, use a small baffle board that will raise the speakers slightly and enable you to mount them on the rear correctly. Or replace those speakers with a 6" round speaker. Trust me, it will sound better than the way it is currently mounted. Cheers. (somebody stop me! I think I've got Navinitis!)
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26th October 2005, 12:01	#53
vivek_pinkoo BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 194 Thanked: 5 Times	Thanx Sam for the observations and suggestions. Will do the needful and get back to u with new changed installation. Last edited by vivek_pinkoo : 26th October 2005 at 12:04.
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27th October 2005, 10:42	#55
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 24,335 Thanked: 6,976 Times	I think Sanyo also makes some... http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=13414 http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=14073
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27th October 2005, 10:43	#56
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 24,335 Thanked: 6,976 Times	and there are plenty of 2 DIN alternates too....
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27th October 2005, 12:14	#57
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,684 Thanked: 1,471 Times View My Garage	i saw the clarion one on autocar advt. and hence posted it as it should be easily avaiable in india. and yup, ther 2 many alternatives for din units.
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