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five46 · 16th November 2007, 23:53

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navin · 17th November 2007, 11:10

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Originally Posted by s0uljah

GooRoos,

How does one explain the pro's/con's of a 15" sub VS a 12".

Let us hypothetically consider GT5 (15vs12) to illustrate the same. Basically my friend wants to know - "If size matters"

baba I think we went through all this before..

it all depends on the design on the sub, it's cabinet (if any) and it's interaction with the "room".

for example the GT5 15" sub might be perfect for a Skoda Octavia but might be overkill for an Alto where a pair of 8" subs might be more suitable.

When you compare the GT5 15 to the GT5 12 remember that while the 15 has a lower Fs it also will have higher Mms and a lower BL/Mms ratio (now I say this without even looking at the specs of either woofer so it can be all wrong, what I state is merely an "educated assumption").

If one was painting with a broad brush once could say that the 15" sub would demand an amp that can "swing more volts", a bigger box, a bigger cabin and will be prefered to a XOed a bit lower than it's 12" equivalent. It will however produce more SPL and go lower than the 12" sub.

vibzez · 17th November 2007, 11:40

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Originally Posted by navin

It will however produce more SPL and go lower than the 12" sub.

Would a 15" be lower in sound quality compared to a similar 12"? I am looking for sound quality, and still not sure whether to go in for the 15". I have a Scorpio, and thought maybe a 15" would better fill the insides. Can the 15" sound crisp, or are they more muddy? Already on a JBL sealed enclosure 12", but could go in for a good sealed 15". Any suggestions, and the cost?
Thx.

vebmetal · 17th November 2007, 13:20

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Originally Posted by navin

for example the GT5 15" sub might be perfect for a Skoda Octavia but might be overkill for an Alto where a pair of 8" subs might be more suitable.

Offhand, what size subs do you recommend for a Zen Estilo? (In terms of room space etc. think of it being very similar to the WagonR). - and oh yeah, SQ is way way more important than SPL, and since this would be fed off two channels of a 4 channel amp, the power that can be supplied to it would be limited.

navin · 17th November 2007, 15:48

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Originally Posted by vibzez

Would a 15" be lower in sound quality compared to a similar 12"? ..Can the 15" sound crisp..Thx.

I have not heard either the GT5 12" or 15" but yes a 15" woofer can sound as tight/crisp as a 12" provided the box, cabin etc. suit it.

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

Offhand, what size subs do you recommend for a Zen Estilo? ...

I would choose between a 10" or a 12". It is more than adequate. The reason 12" woofers got so popular was that they fit a wide variety of applications. With a 12" cone you could get low Fs, high SPL, etc... with smaller cones one had to depend more on Xmax. With bigger cones box volume would be a hinderance. Now this is just a general statement based on the technology of the 60s and 70s. Today with FEA, FFT, etc... things have changed a bit.

Bass&Trouble · 17th November 2007, 16:59

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Originally Posted by s0uljah

How does one explain the pro's/con's of a 15" sub VS a 12".

Similar discussion..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...s-12-subs.html

s0uljah · 18th November 2007, 11:39

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Originally Posted by navin

baba I think we went through all this before..

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Similar discussion..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...s-12-subs.html

Sorry for not searching

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Originally Posted by navin

If one was painting with a broad brush once could say that the 15" sub would demand an amp that can "swing more volts", a bigger box, a bigger cabin and will be prefered to a XOed a bit lower than it's 12" equivalent. It will however produce more SPL and go lower than the 12" sub.

Car in question would be the Santro. So cabin isnt really big but boot can be sacrificed for this. He's got Hertz comps up front running off a 75.4 and the sub being installed is a 15" Hertz. Rear Fill unknown.

khuz1979 · 18th November 2007, 19:23

has anyone heard about problems in fitting front 6" compos in a uva , i heard reports that the doors are too shallow and they cant be fitted easily
can anyone guide me about this issue.
my getz can take the 6" compos but i was wondering if the same is applicable to my brother in laws uva

adityamunshi · 18th November 2007, 20:37

Try these two threads

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...tra-6-1-a.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gurus/25342-need-ice-up-my-aveo-uva.html

Dhar's · 22nd November 2007, 11:15

Knock Knock....
How come the most popular thread is sleeping for three days???
Where is everyone??

Ok, I'll put up my question to the Gurus.
Is there any ready made kick panel available which can accomodate a 6.5" woofer (HSK/ESK163) for Alto?

navin · 22nd November 2007, 11:22

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Originally Posted by Dhar's

Knock Knock....
How come the most popular thread is sleeping for three days???
Where is everyone??

Ok, I'll put up my question to the Gurus.
Is there any ready made kick panel available which can accomodate a 6.5" woofer (HSK/ESK163) for Alto?

I dont think there are any ready made kick panels for indian cars available locally.

Dhar's · 22nd November 2007, 11:32

Thanks Navinji,
Fabrication seems the only way.

ihkhan · 23rd November 2007, 15:43

HI guys,
I need your advise here. I am pretty dumb when it comes to car audio. please help me out. I have an accent , and the company guy gave me a nippon cd player as a compliment, it promises 50x4 RMS and i think the speakers are nippon itself i can't see them,. i seriously want to change it. but to begin with i wanna start with the speakers and then maybe at a later stage change the headset too, please suggest wht kind of speakers i should go for and , my budget for the speakers is 6 k.
should i get the head unit too changed? if so wht decent played would i get for 6-7k.?

rocksterraghu · 23rd November 2007, 15:59

You can get a good pair of components at 6k - JBL GTO, Hertz Deici, Illusion Electra, etc.

Your HU budget can fetch you a Pioneer 6950 or a model older in Pio.

However, you can retain your HU if it has a pre-out and spend the money on an amplifier or better speakers.

ihkhan · 23rd November 2007, 16:18

thnx raghu... but man should i go for two components in the front and two coaxials in the rear? like you said i might retain my head for now and maybe replace it in a future date? and which model of coaxials would you suggest

18th November 2007, 19:23	#7268
khuz1979 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 11 Thanked: 0 Times	has anyone heard about problems in fitting front 6" compos in a uva , i heard reports that the doors are too shallow and they cant be fitted easily can anyone guide me about this issue. my getz can take the 6" compos but i was wondering if the same is applicable to my brother in laws uva
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18th November 2007, 20:37	#7269
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 771 Thanked: 6 Times	Try these two threads http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...tra-6-1-a.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gurus/25342-need-ice-up-my-aveo-uva.html
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22nd November 2007, 11:15	#7270
Dhar's BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: QLN/TRV/DXB Posts: 420 Thanked: 627 Times View My Garage	Knock Knock.... How come the most popular thread is sleeping for three days??? Where is everyone?? Ok, I'll put up my question to the Gurus. Is there any ready made kick panel available which can accomodate a 6.5" woofer (HSK/ESK163) for Alto?
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22nd November 2007, 11:32	#7272
Dhar's BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: QLN/TRV/DXB Posts: 420 Thanked: 627 Times View My Garage	Thanks Navinji, Fabrication seems the only way.
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23rd November 2007, 15:43	#7273
ihkhan BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 41 Thanked: 7 Times	HI guys, I need your advise here. I am pretty dumb when it comes to car audio. please help me out. I have an accent , and the company guy gave me a nippon cd player as a compliment, it promises 50x4 RMS and i think the speakers are nippon itself i can't see them,. i seriously want to change it. but to begin with i wanna start with the speakers and then maybe at a later stage change the headset too, please suggest wht kind of speakers i should go for and , my budget for the speakers is 6 k. should i get the head unit too changed? if so wht decent played would i get for 6-7k.?
	() Thanks

23rd November 2007, 15:59	#7274
rocksterraghu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 236 Times View My Garage	You can get a good pair of components at 6k - JBL GTO, Hertz Deici, Illusion Electra, etc. Your HU budget can fetch you a Pioneer 6950 or a model older in Pio. However, you can retain your HU if it has a pre-out and spend the money on an amplifier or better speakers.
	() Thanks

23rd November 2007, 16:18	#7275
ihkhan BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 41 Thanked: 7 Times	thnx raghu... but man should i go for two components in the front and two coaxials in the rear? like you said i might retain my head for now and maybe replace it in a future date? and which model of coaxials would you suggest
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