Sub woofer and Amp for Ford Fiesta

kumar7 · 28th December 2009, 00:07

Can I do this adjustment of gain or is it something needs to be done on Amp? Sorry it might be sounding silly question but dealer suggested me not to play with Amp as its very strong Amp and it can short the speakers!

navin · 28th December 2009, 10:33

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Originally Posted by kumar7

Sorry it might be sounding silly question but dealer suggested me not to play with Amp as its very strong Amp and it can short the speakers!

An amp will not short a speaker - if a speaker is given too much power it will open circuit not short. I suggest get a more knowledgeable dealer.

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Originally Posted by kumar7

Sometimes when there is a series of bass effect in a song then whole compartment of the car does bhroon..bhroon (sorry its sounding

) but just want you to understand

In this series of bhroon sometimes I miss the music or is it the way it works? Other than this its amazing experience!

try this
1. damp door and trunk panels and anything else you see vibrating
2. use a sealed box sub - they usually create less boom
3. upgtrade power cable to amplifier.

kumar7 · 28th December 2009, 19:56

Am planning to meet dealer on weekend so by that time I can have couple of inputs from all of you.

On youtube I checked how the Amp & Sub tunning is done. For 1100W they suggesting that it should give 66V on DMM. If I ask dealer to follow this process then the problem is that stock HU does not have option to set frequency/EQ. Is that ok to do this?

Am still not getting answer about whether should I keep 1204 or go for GTO1214 Sub? If I go for GTO1214 then I need to do all calculation what length/breadth/depth of box etc.

Gilead · 28th December 2009, 20:13

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Originally Posted by kumar7

Am still not getting answer about whether should I keep 1204 or go for GTO1214 Sub? If I go for GTO1214 then I need to do all calculation what length/breadth/depth of box etc.

I think irrespective of how much damping you do, the 1204 will sound more boomy as it's not in a sealed box. The 1214 in a sealed box may sound tighter. A competent installer will know the box dimensions and it will be available in the manual as well. You don't have to calculate anything.

kumar7 · 1st January 2010, 14:53

I checked with JBL dealer and he straight forwardly saying GTO 1214 is not in stock and will not get. Even though I am ready to wait but no +ve response coming for this series.

As suggested I am planning to go for enclosed Sub rather than keeping GT5 1204BR as the air slot in it creating lot of Bhroom...and am over budget so want to try enclosed enclosure before giving thought of damping.

In worst case what is substitute of GTO 1214?

kumar7 · 1st January 2010, 15:02

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Originally Posted by sathee46

The 1004 is a very good amp, but afaik it does not have speaker level inputs. You might have to use something called a line out convertor. Have you installed it already?

Below two thing they fitted -

1) Fixed Line Output Converter - 2 channel - Fixed - 12 Watts per ch
2) 2ch adjustable Line Output Converter with Auto Remote Amp Turn-on

kumar7 · 7th January 2010, 23:13

Finally I got GTO 1214

Now looking for the best enclosure I can go for. I checked with dealer and found that he can arrange ready square enclosure (BaassFX manufacturer) of 1.45 cu. ft (sealed).

As I want SQ type setup so going for sealed enclosure. My dealer said if you want he can place order and arrange box of required size however for that he need exact dimensions.

Below is specs of GTO 1214 subwoofer:

nitrous · 7th January 2010, 23:20

Use dimensions specified in the user manual.
Stick to sealed.
I think 1.45 cu.ft. is too large.

kumar7 · 7th January 2010, 23:57

Thanks nitrous!

In manual they just provided specs and in technical data they mention 1.00 ft3 should be the Volume. Now in lay man term if I have to give dimension then before hand I need to do calculation of adding/subtracting cone dimension/movement etc.

Below is the details they provided for sealed enclosure -

sathee46 · 8th January 2010, 00:16

This should help

Speaker Enclosure Volume Calculator

kumar7 · 8th January 2010, 00:26

This seems to be useful site. Thanks Sathee!

My dealer showed Overdrive magazine and showed me advertisement of "Venom" company who prepare these enclosure very professionally and he said he can arrange that for me however I need to provide all details. Some how I not able to locate anything about 'Venom' (I think this is correct) or 'Venon' on internet.
As the advt was given in Overdrive magazine so I assume they are known for doing this task perfectly.

Below two website I got but non of them are working -
baassfx.com
venom.co.in

kumar7 · 8th January 2010, 02:22

I downloaded 'ajsealed' software and with that got below dimensions & values -

Vb - 47.77
Fb - 41.70Hz
F3 - 42.12Hz

Enclosure dimensions:
14.3"L x 23.1"H x 8.8"D
37.5"L x 23.1"H x 3.4"D (With height constraint)

navin · 8th January 2010, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by kumar7

Vb - 47.77
Fb - 41.70Hz
F3 - 42.12Hz

Enclosure dimensions:
14.3"L x 23.1"H x 8.8"D
37.5"L x 23.1"H x 3.4"D (With height constraint)

I'd go with the box that is 8.8" deep. 3.4" might not be enough to disappate the backwave.

navin · 8th January 2010, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kumar7

Thanks nitrous!
In manual they just provided specs and in technical data they mention 1.00 ft3 should be the Volume.

1 cu. ft is net volume you have to allow for the volume the woofer will occupy too.

kumar7 · 11th January 2010, 21:28

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Originally Posted by navin

I'd go with the box that is 8.8" deep. 3.4" might not be enough to disappate the backwave.

With 8.8" deep I am getting 1.68 cu ft (Link). However on above JBL spec it says 1F3! Should I stick to 'ajsealed' recommended value or need to try another software to get dimensions?

Does anyone knows from where I can get customized enclosure in Pune?

28th December 2009, 00:07	#16
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Can I do this adjustment of gain or is it something needs to be done on Amp? Sorry it might be sounding silly question but dealer suggested me not to play with Amp as its very strong Amp and it can short the speakers!
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28th December 2009, 19:56	#18
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Am planning to meet dealer on weekend so by that time I can have couple of inputs from all of you. On youtube I checked how the Amp & Sub tunning is done. For 1100W they suggesting that it should give 66V on DMM. If I ask dealer to follow this process then the problem is that stock HU does not have option to set frequency/EQ. Is that ok to do this? Am still not getting answer about whether should I keep 1204 or go for GTO1214 Sub? If I go for GTO1214 then I need to do all calculation what length/breadth/depth of box etc.
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1st January 2010, 14:53	#20
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	I checked with JBL dealer and he straight forwardly saying GTO 1214 is not in stock and will not get. Even though I am ready to wait but no +ve response coming for this series. As suggested I am planning to go for enclosed Sub rather than keeping GT5 1204BR as the air slot in it creating lot of Bhroom...and am over budget so want to try enclosed enclosure before giving thought of damping. In worst case what is substitute of GTO 1214? Last edited by kumar7 : 1st January 2010 at 15:03.
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7th January 2010, 23:13	#22
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Gto 1214 Finally I got GTO 1214 Now looking for the best enclosure I can go for. I checked with dealer and found that he can arrange ready square enclosure (BaassFX manufacturer) of 1.45 cu. ft (sealed). As I want SQ type setup so going for sealed enclosure. My dealer said if you want he can place order and arrange box of required size however for that he need exact dimensions. Below is specs of GTO 1214 subwoofer: Attached Images
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7th January 2010, 23:20	#23
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Use dimensions specified in the user manual. Stick to sealed. I think 1.45 cu.ft. is too large.
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7th January 2010, 23:57	#24
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Thanks nitrous! In manual they just provided specs and in technical data they mention 1.00 ft3 should be the Volume. Now in lay man term if I have to give dimension then before hand I need to do calculation of adding/subtracting cone dimension/movement etc. Below is the details they provided for sealed enclosure - Attached Thumbnails
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8th January 2010, 00:16	#25
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	This should help Speaker Enclosure Volume Calculator
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8th January 2010, 00:26	#26
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	This seems to be useful site. Thanks Sathee! My dealer showed Overdrive magazine and showed me advertisement of "Venom" company who prepare these enclosure very professionally and he said he can arrange that for me however I need to provide all details. Some how I not able to locate anything about 'Venom' (I think this is correct) or 'Venon' on internet. As the advt was given in Overdrive magazine so I assume they are known for doing this task perfectly. Below two website I got but non of them are working - baassfx.com venom.co.in
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8th January 2010, 02:22	#27
kumar7 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 320 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	I downloaded 'ajsealed' software and with that got below dimensions & values - Vb - 47.77 Fb - 41.70Hz F3 - 42.12Hz Enclosure dimensions: 14.3"L x 23.1"H x 8.8"D 37.5"L x 23.1"H x 3.4"D (With height constraint) Last edited by kumar7 : 8th January 2010 at 02:23.
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