Let's tweak PIONEER Head Units

Vivekphadnis · 1st September 2005, 16:03

I put back all the things and as Sam said the 'lip' was there and I fitted the cage and put the front panel and put the screws back. The HU sits tight and nice. There was a thick ground wire and an ignition wire hanging about. I used that. The +12V supply I took from a harness hanging behind (Sam, I have just failed to find a thick wire which you told me about). I connected the JBL 936 and 426. And voila! we are in business. Now, I need to remove the side panels near the door frame and conceal the wires. Thank you boys, for all your help.

One thing I noticed, after i switch off the HU, there are five beeps after a few seconds from the HU. I wonder what that means.

zzzehar, tsk1979, the manuals are available for download from Pioneer's New Zealand site.

mclaren1885 · 1st September 2005, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

One thing I noticed, after i switch off the HU, there are five beeps after a few seconds from the HU. I wonder what that means.

thats the beep which tells u that the HU hasnt been removed once the key of ur car is removed..its just a indicator that ur HU is still in the car,just a warning system to prevent theft of ur system..

Vivekphadnis · 1st September 2005, 17:04

Right. Thanks for telling me that.

vivek.singh.73 · 1st September 2005, 18:24

you can access/download the 5750 manual from

http://www.pioneernz.co.nz/Site/Pron...R%20MANUAL.PDF

enjoy ur self

zzzehar · 1st September 2005, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

And I seemed to have successfully hijacked this thread. Sorry, zzzehar, sorry mods. We will get back on track very soon.

Zzzehar, which car do you have and can you check how your Pio head unit is fitted and let me know.

I drive a daewoo Matiz, and I am still looking for technician who can fit it in for me. I will let u know as i am getting it done this weekend.

zzzehar · 1st September 2005, 19:29

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Originally Posted by vivek.singh.73

you can access/download the 5750 manual from

http://www.pioneernz.co.nz/Site/Pron...R%20MANUAL.PDF

enjoy ur self

yes I can see that I no longer understand whats going around on this thread ;-( But belive me I am learning a lot and thats all I have done by joining TEAM BHP and I am much more confident in telling someone as to how their Pioneer's Sony's and JBL's will rock. Thanks to you all for such great help.

Sam Kapasi · 1st September 2005, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

I put back all the things and as Sam said the 'lip' was there and I fitted the cage and put the front panel and put the screws back. The HU sits tight and nice. There was a thick ground wire and an ignition wire hanging about. I used that. The +12V supply I took from a harness hanging behind (Sam, I have just failed to find a thick wire which you told me about). I connected the JBL 936 and 426. And voila! we are in business. Now, I need to remove the side panels near the door frame and conceal the wires. Thank you boys, for all your help.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner

Vivekphadnis · 1st September 2005, 23:33

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner

This is coming from the audio guru. I am flattered.

navin · 1st September 2005, 23:35

kewl. congrats vivek. now enjoy. i know how you feel.
i did my first install about 25 years ago! Geez i dont even remember what year that was. i remember begin so excited (I had bought the components the night before and went to sleep reading the spec sheets). Then i woke at 6am and was done by 10am. 1HU, 2 AMPS, 2 6x9 in boxes, 2 5" comps in the front door. 1 12" sub in box. The car was a Honda CVCC i think from 1976 or 1978. I woke the neighbours on a sleep sunday morning. ha ha ha.

BTW anyone see Biker Build Off on TV. I knew Indian Larry in NY. Wow I did not know he was so famous.

Vivekphadnis · 1st September 2005, 23:50

Thanks Navin. Now, I need to get started on the next phase viz the sub and the 4 channel amplifier. he he he.

navin · 2nd September 2005, 09:37

I am eagerly awaiting that project.

Sam Kapasi · 3rd September 2005, 08:41

I was wondering, I wonder if it possible to get the dolphin to swim the other way on the Pioner 123456XVC model c (I hope I got that number right). Currently the dolphin does this little flip from the left to the right and I've heard that if it does a double backflip and swims the other way, it'll improve the sound dramatically (Is this true guys?) and keep my girlfriend amused so she doesnt see the next jewellers shop we cross as her eyes will be glued to the double back flipping sooo cute dolphy! Help!

pranil · 3rd September 2005, 21:29

Has anybody tried driving the sub directly off the HU. My friend has tried it in Indigo Marina and he claims the result is fantastic He is using Pioneer 5750

http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront...ctSubDrive.jpg

OR

I was thinking of getting Pioneer 7750 alongwith front comps ( Most probably JBL 606Ce) and a sub for my getz. I have to decide if I will add sub now or coaxials in back side.

Pioneer claims 22W rms per channel that means parralled rougly 40 W rms at 4 Ohm for the sub.

Will it be sufficient to give good bass effect.

Can I use Subs in door itself or bass tube or enclousre seprately made

aseem · 3rd September 2005, 22:05

Pranil this is a very very bad idea. Subs require a lot of power to be driven. Most entry level subs require a minimum of 140 Watts RMS in order to be driven. Theoritically you might be able to run your sub with only 40 watts RMS however this will severly damage both the HU and the sub due to clipping. If you run this for extended period of time, you can fry eggs on your HU as the HU will become too HOT.

Go for a decent 2 channel amp. Entry level amps start at 2.5k, Sony 502 Z. Go in for a low powered sub. JBL CS 1200T requires 140 Watts and is the least power hungry sub/tube I know. You can also consider pioneer or sony subs.

drpullockaran · 4th September 2005, 01:36

Before you plonk your hard earned money have a look into this article on the future of car amplifiers. Its a year old article but has the basics right.

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-...ew.html?page=3

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/IS...ew.html?page=4

Bye and wear your seatbelts.

1st September 2005, 16:03	#16
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	I put back all the things and as Sam said the 'lip' was there and I fitted the cage and put the front panel and put the screws back. The HU sits tight and nice. There was a thick ground wire and an ignition wire hanging about. I used that. The +12V supply I took from a harness hanging behind (Sam, I have just failed to find a thick wire which you told me about). I connected the JBL 936 and 426. And voila! we are in business. Now, I need to remove the side panels near the door frame and conceal the wires. Thank you boys, for all your help. One thing I noticed, after i switch off the HU, there are five beeps after a few seconds from the HU. I wonder what that means. zzzehar, tsk1979, the manuals are available for download from Pioneer's New Zealand site. Last edited by Vivekphadnis : 1st September 2005 at 16:07.
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1st September 2005, 17:04	#18
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Right. Thanks for telling me that.
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1st September 2005, 18:24	#19
vivek.singh.73 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 256 Thanked: 32 Times	5750 user manaual you can access/download the 5750 manual from http://www.pioneernz.co.nz/Site/Pron...R%20MANUAL.PDF enjoy ur self
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1st September 2005, 23:35	#24
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,186 Thanked: 9,276 Times	kewl. congrats vivek. now enjoy. i know how you feel. i did my first install about 25 years ago! Geez i dont even remember what year that was. i remember begin so excited (I had bought the components the night before and went to sleep reading the spec sheets). Then i woke at 6am and was done by 10am. 1HU, 2 AMPS, 2 6x9 in boxes, 2 5" comps in the front door. 1 12" sub in box. The car was a Honda CVCC i think from 1976 or 1978. I woke the neighbours on a sleep sunday morning. ha ha ha. BTW anyone see Biker Build Off on TV. I knew Indian Larry in NY. Wow I did not know he was so famous.
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1st September 2005, 23:50	#25
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Thanks Navin. Now, I need to get started on the next phase viz the sub and the 4 channel amplifier. he he he.
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2nd September 2005, 09:37	#26
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,186 Thanked: 9,276 Times	I am eagerly awaiting that project.
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3rd September 2005, 08:41	#27
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	I was wondering, I wonder if it possible to get the dolphin to swim the other way on the Pioner 123456XVC model c (I hope I got that number right). Currently the dolphin does this little flip from the left to the right and I've heard that if it does a double backflip and swims the other way, it'll improve the sound dramatically (Is this true guys?) and keep my girlfriend amused so she doesnt see the next jewellers shop we cross as her eyes will be glued to the double back flipping sooo cute dolphy! Help!
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3rd September 2005, 21:29	#28
pranil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Times	head Unit to drive SUB Has anybody tried driving the sub directly off the HU. My friend has tried it in Indigo Marina and he claims the result is fantastic He is using Pioneer 5750 http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront...ctSubDrive.jpg OR I was thinking of getting Pioneer 7750 alongwith front comps ( Most probably JBL 606Ce) and a sub for my getz. I have to decide if I will add sub now or coaxials in back side. Pioneer claims 22W rms per channel that means parralled rougly 40 W rms at 4 Ohm for the sub. Will it be sufficient to give good bass effect. Can I use Subs in door itself or bass tube or enclousre seprately made Last edited by pranil : 3rd September 2005 at 21:40.
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3rd September 2005, 22:05	#29
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 441 Times	Pranil this is a very very bad idea. Subs require a lot of power to be driven. Most entry level subs require a minimum of 140 Watts RMS in order to be driven. Theoritically you might be able to run your sub with only 40 watts RMS however this will severly damage both the HU and the sub due to clipping. If you run this for extended period of time, you can fry eggs on your HU as the HU will become too HOT. Go for a decent 2 channel amp. Entry level amps start at 2.5k, Sony 502 Z. Go in for a low powered sub. JBL CS 1200T requires 140 Watts and is the least power hungry sub/tube I know. You can also consider pioneer or sony subs. Last edited by aseem : 3rd September 2005 at 22:07.
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4th September 2005, 01:36	#30
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 962 Thanked: 385 Times	Have a read of this complete article. Before you plonk your hard earned money have a look into this article on the future of car amplifiers. Its a year old article but has the basics right. http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-...ew.html?page=3 http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/IS...ew.html?page=4 Bye and wear your seatbelts. Last edited by drpullockaran : 4th September 2005 at 01:37.
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