Music Sytem for Scorpio

Sam Kapasi · 14th September 2005, 17:22

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Originally Posted by rchimni

I also have a Rockford fosgate 4 channel amplifier

Wait Navin,
We seem to have made a mistake. The man has a 4 channel amp already. So now it's workable.

navin · 14th September 2005, 22:39

ok so he has 8K for 2 speakers and a sub. 3K for the speakers and 4K for the sub.

navin · 14th September 2005, 23:08

2 pairs of speakers and a sub will run him 10k. given that he is breaking his budget if he can spring for 2.5K more he could add a sony 502 to drive the subs. what say you oh master?

Sam Kapasi · 15th September 2005, 11:23

Buss kya, everyone knows you're the master here.
However i think for now the RF amp will manage everything, only the fader wont work.

navin · 15th September 2005, 11:28

me old school. dont like running amps to 2 ohms. but it seems newer car amps have gotten that problem licked.

My fears might be unfonuded and based on my legacy. Speaker loads are reactive and the impedance can drop and jump dependant on freq. typically a 5-6" will have an impedance drop around 50-100Hz and a peak in the area as well. sort of like a mountain peak with valleys on either side. you know what i mean you seen enough impedance curves.

Sam Kapasi · 15th September 2005, 11:30

New Amps are ok with 2 ohms. Trust me. I'm not advocating running them at that impedance, but it's better than robbing a bank na?

navin · 15th September 2005, 11:33

yeah and he can add the sony 502 when he has 2.5k extra.

Sam Kapasi · 15th September 2005, 11:42

OK so rchimni???? wherever you are, your system is fully sorted. God Bless Africa.

rchimni · 15th September 2005, 13:15

Sirs ... Your help is much appreciated !!!!!

NIP · 21st July 2006, 16:37

guys...i have a scorpio with a pioneer HU and standard factory speakers. yes...u're right..it suxx ! now i have 2 kenwood 12" subs removed from my old car.

now, i want to install both the kenwood subs + get 2 pairs of speakers for the front and back. now i am not technically very good with car audio....but is it possible to run both subs + speakers if i get two sony 4ch amps? also, my budget is 12-14k. also, how much will installation cost in bangalore ?! please help and thanks in advance guys...

jkdas · 21st July 2006, 16:50

2 pair for speaker + 2 subs frm two 4 channels?

yah, you can. would be good if you get a more powerful amp for teh subs though. A sony 504 will be too inadequate.

rsjaurr · 21st July 2006, 16:58

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Originally Posted by NIP

guys...i have a scorpio with a pioneer HU and standard factory speakers. yes...u're right..it suxx ! now i have 2 kenwood 12" subs removed from my old car.

now, i want to install both the kenwood subs + get 2 pairs of speakers for the front and back. now i am not technically very good with car audio....but is it possible to run both subs + speakers if i get two sony 4ch amps? also, my budget is 12-14k. also, how much will installation cost in bangalore ?! please help and thanks in advance guys...

You certainly can run 2 pairs of spk with one sony 4-ch amplifier but hooking two subw,that two 12",will be asking for two much.

You have add some more money as u will need better and very powerful amplifer and also good branded amplifer kit and rca cables.

navin · 21st July 2006, 17:12

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Originally Posted by NIP

now, i want to install both the kenwood subs...

do you have specs on these subs. what i would like to see are sensitivity and Mms. if those numbers are right (high sensitivity and low Mms) your sony 504 might be able to run 2 of them.

Bass&Trouble · 21st July 2006, 17:21

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Originally Posted by navin

do you have specs on these subs. what i would like to see are sensitivity and Mms. if those numbers are right (high sensitivity and low Mms) your sony 504 might be able to run 2 of them.

Hi Navin, correct me if I'm wrong, but in most cases, manufacturers don't publish the Mms, unless it's a serious brand.

So what you could also do is, you could look at the Fs and Vas and if the Vas is startlingly low inspite of a Low Fs, you know the guy's gonna be damn hard to move, and vice versa.

navin · 21st July 2006, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Hi Navin, correct me if I'm wrong, but in most cases, manufacturers don't publish the Mms, unless it's a serious brand..

Excuse me I am spoilt by my exposure to "serious" brands! :-) right said B&T. Do they publish Cms?

14th September 2005, 22:39	#17
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,292 Times	ok so he has 8K for 2 speakers and a sub. 3K for the speakers and 4K for the sub.
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14th September 2005, 23:08	#18
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,292 Times	2 pairs of speakers and a sub will run him 10k. given that he is breaking his budget if he can spring for 2.5K more he could add a sony 502 to drive the subs. what say you oh master?
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15th September 2005, 11:23	#19
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Buss kya, everyone knows you're the master here. However i think for now the RF amp will manage everything, only the fader wont work.
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15th September 2005, 11:28	#20
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,292 Times	me old school. dont like running amps to 2 ohms. but it seems newer car amps have gotten that problem licked. My fears might be unfonuded and based on my legacy. Speaker loads are reactive and the impedance can drop and jump dependant on freq. typically a 5-6" will have an impedance drop around 50-100Hz and a peak in the area as well. sort of like a mountain peak with valleys on either side. you know what i mean you seen enough impedance curves.
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15th September 2005, 11:30	#21
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	New Amps are ok with 2 ohms. Trust me. I'm not advocating running them at that impedance, but it's better than robbing a bank na?
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15th September 2005, 11:33	#22
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,292 Times	yeah and he can add the sony 502 when he has 2.5k extra.
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15th September 2005, 11:42	#23
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	OK so rchimni???? wherever you are, your system is fully sorted. God Bless Africa.
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15th September 2005, 13:15	#24
rchimni BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manila Posts: 137 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Sirs ... Your help is much appreciated !!!!!
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21st July 2006, 16:37	#25
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	guys...i have a scorpio with a pioneer HU and standard factory speakers. yes...u're right..it suxx ! now i have 2 kenwood 12" subs removed from my old car. now, i want to install both the kenwood subs + get 2 pairs of speakers for the front and back. now i am not technically very good with car audio....but is it possible to run both subs + speakers if i get two sony 4ch amps? also, my budget is 12-14k. also, how much will installation cost in bangalore ?! please help and thanks in advance guys...
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21st July 2006, 16:50	#26
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	2 pair for speaker + 2 subs frm two 4 channels? yah, you can. would be good if you get a more powerful amp for teh subs though. A sony 504 will be too inadequate.
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