Hyundai Getz - Install Help

pranil · 3rd October 2005, 18:47

Guys Off course i am on a budget, I have spent alreday 18,000 On my HU and speakers

What I found after listening to the system was the JBL GTO 606 and pioneer TS- A1681 are able to give nice bottom end if HPF on HU is set at 80 hz. with HPF off or at 50 HZ they distort quite alot.

So I am looking at filling that gap. No punch as my wife hates It. (BTW I have got the HU specifically for that) U can switch off or cotrol the sub +-6 DB independly through HU. The HU has dedeicated button for this.

What my laymans thinking is that for 91 db JBL fronts running on 22 watts from HU and 89 db sub on 40 watt of amp, the sound will even out across the spectrum. what is lacking on sub can be made up by equalizer for the time being.

See the setup will not cost me more than 1000+1500+500( Amp+Speaker+box)

If somebody has better solution to get me a sub below 3000 then I am all ears. Off course I will later shift the amp to Rear fills and get me a nice 4 channel amp for front and rear sub. and later as a last option some good sub.

But this change not due at least for a year.

AND GUNBIR - thanx for the spare wheel idea but I can n ot sacrifice my sparewheel. With sparewheel and jack hardy any space is ther to fit shallow 6" forget about a sub.
i can not loose the spare wheel as On weekends I drive down to pune.

aseem · 4th October 2005, 00:53

Pioneer 306C subwoofer is a VFM sub under 3k.

jkdas · 4th October 2005, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranil

Guys Off course i am on a budget, I have spent alreday 18,000 On my HU and speakers

What I found after listening to the system was the JBL GTO 606 and pioneer TS- A1681 are able to give nice bottom end if HPF on HU is set at 80 hz. with HPF off or at 50 HZ they distort quite alot.

So I am looking at filling that gap. No punch as my wife hates It. (BTW I have got the HU specifically for that) U can switch off or cotrol the sub +-6 DB independly through HU. The HU has dedeicated button for this.

What my laymans thinking is that for 91 db JBL fronts running on 22 watts from HU and 89 db sub on 40 watt of amp, the sound will even out across the spectrum. what is lacking on sub can be made up by equalizer for the time being.

See the setup will not cost me more than 1000+1500+500( Amp+Speaker+box)

If somebody has better solution to get me a sub below 3000 then I am all ears. Off course I will later shift the amp to Rear fills and get me a nice 4 channel amp for front and rear sub. and later as a last option some good sub.

But this change not due at least for a year.

AND GUNBIR - thanx for the spare wheel idea but I can n ot sacrifice my sparewheel. With sparewheel and jack hardy any space is ther to fit shallow 6" forget about a sub.
i can not loose the spare wheel as On weekends I drive down to pune.

a sub setup at 3K with all the works? possible ?

Sam Kapasi · 4th October 2005, 13:21

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Originally Posted by gunbir

No man... stay away from the pioneer subs... they suck big time...

You could use the Hertz Energy ES200 - 91dB.

Well, I heard the pioneer subs and they're OK. Especially for the price.

What is the price of this hertz energy subwoofer?

navin · 4th October 2005, 13:40

Sam FYI the ES200 is an 8".

mclaren1885 · 4th October 2005, 13:49

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Originally Posted by navin

Sam FYI the ES200 is an 8".

yes mate..its an 8'', 200W rms SVC sub and costs around 5k..so way outta budget..

Autophile · 4th October 2005, 21:03

Sam sound and sound reproducing equipment are like food. Everyone has a different taste and liking. And you tend to change your references as you come across and taste better "food".

navin · 4th October 2005, 22:25

JB, i spent 4 years as a poor student. so poor we used to skip meals to make ends meet. we'd line up for the 99c deals from McD, Buger King, Wendy's etc... we did not care for this food but it was all we could afford...so food eaten is often a matter of budget.

kspv · 4th November 2005, 20:27

Dear Gunbir,

Got two pairs of Soomoku component speakers (don't laugh) installed in my Getz yesterday. These replaced the earlier speakers I had. Horrified to see eight guys, two at each door panel, pouncing on my poor automobile (I couldn't even put my neck inside to see what's happening), pulling wires, removing door panels, drilling holes etc... etc....

The outlet owner was a fairly reputed guy, and is brother-in-law of a high-end audio dealer in Bangalore. On the other hand, the installation crew consisted 16 year olds to 25 year olds (Niaz... Hafiz...Karim...etc...etc...

) in rag-tags and hawai slippers.

In the end, I have no idea as to what has been done to my car. I know that the speakers were fitted on to M.D.F.-rings. I must admit that the sound indeed is very clean, though it lacks bass. My car-carpet had mud and foot-prints, and I spent this morning cleaning the same. The door-panels needed cleaning too. There were lots of cut wire-pieces, screws etc., lying on the carpet. Being a fussy guy who keeps admonishing my wife & children over car-interior cleanliness, I was not at all happy with this.

My problem now is, after fixing the M.D.F-ring and the slim, neodymium magnet based, Soomoku woofers, there is now a visible gap between the door-panels of my Getz and the corresponding metal doors on the rear side. Is this gap because of M.D.F-ring protruding (But I saw in this very thread that you recommended a M.D.F-ring for Getz), or my "installer crew" did not know how to fit back the door-panel correctly? If this gap is because of the M.D.F. ring protruding, is there any alternative way of installing the speakers?

I would be grateful for a reply.

navin · 4th November 2005, 20:36

kspv, can you include a small pic. if the gap did not exist before those monkeys may have done some damage. BTW how does it sound?

jkdas · 4th November 2005, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

kspv, can you include a small pic. if the gap did not exist before those monkeys may have done some damage. BTW how does it sound?

u mean the 8 monkeys?

i would have first check teh whole setup and seen for mistakes and gaps. what if those guys were trainees and

.

and where did u get the tweeter of teh compo fixed. Well, as Navin said, please post a pic, as its the first time we are getting a post about soomoku speakers install.

navin · 4th November 2005, 22:23

i just want to see the panel gaps. :-(

gunbir · 4th November 2005, 23:35

KSVP

Re your funky 'monkey' install... No, its not right that any panel gaps appear. MDF rings installed correctly would not cause this. It seems either of these is possibel:

a. The MDF Ring is too thick. Though it is unlikely they would have used thicker than 1" MDF. Another possibility is that the ring is wider than required and is faulting with the plastic ring on the door panels inner side.

b. A more likely reason for the panel gap... There are many plastic locks on the door panel that secure the panel to the metal door. It is likely they lost a lock, or misaligned the panel so the lock isnt sitting in its intended place, thus causing the gap.

It is clear you love your car. Next time you go for an install try and have ample time on your hands and dont be rushed into anything. Some dealers will finish an install in 2 hours while some dealers will take 2 days. Eventually you get what you paid for. And If you paid for the installation, I recommend you throw your weight around and make sure they install on your terms, at your pace. Its your car, your money and you have every right to a quality install.

As a consumer please be more demanding. It will raise the quality of work out there and benefit our industry at large.

McLaren knows his way around the best installers in Bangalore. I suggest you contact him and maybe he can help you find a better installer.

navin · 5th November 2005, 00:16

gunbir, funky monkey is the name of my wife's fav tattoo parlour in bandra, mumbai! :-)

Sam Kapasi · 5th November 2005, 12:08

Mine too! In fact it belongs to a friend!

3rd October 2005, 18:47	#61
pranil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Times	On a budget bu still want quality sound Guys Off course i am on a budget, I have spent alreday 18,000 On my HU and speakers What I found after listening to the system was the JBL GTO 606 and pioneer TS- A1681 are able to give nice bottom end if HPF on HU is set at 80 hz. with HPF off or at 50 HZ they distort quite alot. So I am looking at filling that gap. No punch as my wife hates It. (BTW I have got the HU specifically for that) U can switch off or cotrol the sub +-6 DB independly through HU. The HU has dedeicated button for this. What my laymans thinking is that for 91 db JBL fronts running on 22 watts from HU and 89 db sub on 40 watt of amp, the sound will even out across the spectrum. what is lacking on sub can be made up by equalizer for the time being. See the setup will not cost me more than 1000+1500+500( Amp+Speaker+box) If somebody has better solution to get me a sub below 3000 then I am all ears. Off course I will later shift the amp to Rear fills and get me a nice 4 channel amp for front and rear sub. and later as a last option some good sub. But this change not due at least for a year. AND GUNBIR - thanx for the spare wheel idea but I can n ot sacrifice my sparewheel. With sparewheel and jack hardy any space is ther to fit shallow 6" forget about a sub. i can not loose the spare wheel as On weekends I drive down to pune. Last edited by pranil : 3rd October 2005 at 18:49.
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4th October 2005, 00:53	#62
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 441 Times	Pioneer 306C subwoofer is a VFM sub under 3k.
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4th October 2005, 13:40	#65
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	Sam FYI the ES200 is an 8".
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4th October 2005, 21:03	#67
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Sam sound and sound reproducing equipment are like food. Everyone has a different taste and liking. And you tend to change your references as you come across and taste better "food".
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4th October 2005, 22:25	#68
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	JB, i spent 4 years as a poor student. so poor we used to skip meals to make ends meet. we'd line up for the 99c deals from McD, Buger King, Wendy's etc... we did not care for this food but it was all we could afford...so food eaten is often a matter of budget.
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4th November 2005, 20:27	#69
kspv BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Guwahati Posts: 50 Thanked: 42 Times	Dear Gunbir, Got two pairs of Soomoku component speakers (don't laugh) installed in my Getz yesterday. These replaced the earlier speakers I had. Horrified to see eight guys, two at each door panel, pouncing on my poor automobile (I couldn't even put my neck inside to see what's happening), pulling wires, removing door panels, drilling holes etc... etc.... The outlet owner was a fairly reputed guy, and is brother-in-law of a high-end audio dealer in Bangalore. On the other hand, the installation crew consisted 16 year olds to 25 year olds (Niaz... Hafiz...Karim...etc...etc...) in rag-tags and hawai slippers. In the end, I have no idea as to what has been done to my car. I know that the speakers were fitted on to M.D.F.-rings. I must admit that the sound indeed is very clean, though it lacks bass. My car-carpet had mud and foot-prints, and I spent this morning cleaning the same. The door-panels needed cleaning too. There were lots of cut wire-pieces, screws etc., lying on the carpet. Being a fussy guy who keeps admonishing my wife & children over car-interior cleanliness, I was not at all happy with this. My problem now is, after fixing the M.D.F-ring and the slim, neodymium magnet based, Soomoku woofers, there is now a visible gap between the door-panels of my Getz and the corresponding metal doors on the rear side. Is this gap because of M.D.F-ring protruding (But I saw in this very thread that you recommended a M.D.F-ring for Getz), or my "installer crew" did not know how to fit back the door-panel correctly? If this gap is because of the M.D.F. ring protruding, is there any alternative way of installing the speakers? I would be grateful for a reply.
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4th November 2005, 20:36	#70
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	kspv, can you include a small pic. if the gap did not exist before those monkeys may have done some damage. BTW how does it sound?
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4th November 2005, 22:23	#72
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	i just want to see the panel gaps. :-(
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4th November 2005, 23:35	#73
gunbir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,465 Thanked: 32 Times	KSVP Re your funky 'monkey' install... No, its not right that any panel gaps appear. MDF rings installed correctly would not cause this. It seems either of these is possibel: a. The MDF Ring is too thick. Though it is unlikely they would have used thicker than 1" MDF. Another possibility is that the ring is wider than required and is faulting with the plastic ring on the door panels inner side. b. A more likely reason for the panel gap... There are many plastic locks on the door panel that secure the panel to the metal door. It is likely they lost a lock, or misaligned the panel so the lock isnt sitting in its intended place, thus causing the gap. It is clear you love your car. Next time you go for an install try and have ample time on your hands and dont be rushed into anything. Some dealers will finish an install in 2 hours while some dealers will take 2 days. Eventually you get what you paid for. And If you paid for the installation, I recommend you throw your weight around and make sure they install on your terms, at your pace. Its your car, your money and you have every right to a quality install. As a consumer please be more demanding. It will raise the quality of work out there and benefit our industry at large. McLaren knows his way around the best installers in Bangalore. I suggest you contact him and maybe he can help you find a better installer.
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5th November 2005, 00:16	#74
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	gunbir, funky monkey is the name of my wife's fav tattoo parlour in bandra, mumbai! :-)
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5th November 2005, 12:08	#75
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Mine too! In fact it belongs to a friend!
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