best budget component speakers for heavy metal?

naru · 30th May 2010, 18:32

Went to elegant, and then driven, yesterday. Elegant pushed focal on me, but I'm not very sure about it.

tried the 608c, but it was fixed in such a way couldn't change crossover settings

kicker sounded the best of the 3.

Which one would you guys suggest?

Unfortunately, Mr Rana's out of town. He said he'll call on the 4th, but his installer, Mahesh, said they've got only Rainbow. Is it good?

It'll run with a kenny HU. No amp (yet).

Thanks.

oops, i think i posted this in the wrong section. mods, pls move the thread. sorry.

akshay4587 · 30th May 2010, 18:35

Well you can check out the Bull Audio components too.
but i heard their price has been hiked to 7.5K and likes
They were best VFM Compos for 5.6K when i got them.

naru · 30th May 2010, 19:18

Ok, i'll try Bull too.

One thing I want to know:

I have a creative inspire 2.1 with motherboard-integrated 5.1 channel sound at home PC. And that sounds pretty damn good. What do i have to do to get that kind of sound in my car? The three comps i auditioned, though not bad, were nowhere near the clarity and richness.

alpha1 · 31st May 2010, 15:54

^ That might be because your creative speakers are designed to hollow out the 200-600Hz response.
And increase the "chan-chan" spectrum - 6KHz to 12KHz.

If you have a graphic equalizer you can easily dial the Creative/Bose sound from a decent speaker system.

Second thing is that home speakers have a well deigned cavity for their speakers - not hte same with car speakers.

panky12345 · 31st May 2010, 18:59

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Originally Posted by akshay4587

They were best VFM Compos for 5.6K when i got them.

When introduced, they retailed for 4.5K. I dont think kind of price hike is justified unless the manufacturer has made some significant changes in the quality of the product.

abhibh · 31st May 2010, 19:45

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Originally Posted by panky12345

When introduced, they retailed for 4.5K. I dont think kind of price hike is justified unless the manufacturer has made some significant changes in the quality of the product.

what about the change in the currency ?

1 USD = Rs 46 at the moment
1 USD (2 yrs ago) = Rs 38

@akshay they are still around 5.5K.

akshay4587 · 31st May 2010, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

what about the change in the currency ?

1 USD = Rs 46 at the moment
1 USD (2 yrs ago) = Rs 38

@akshay they are still around 5.5K.

Sounds great,i think il buy another pair

jkdas · 31st May 2010, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by naru

Unfortunately, Mr Rana's out of town. He said he'll call on the 4th, but his installer, Mahesh, said they've got only Rainbow. Is it good?

It'll run with a kenny HU. No amp (yet).

Felt the Rainbows (SLX I guess) to be a bit bright. These were fed from 9887 HU and played bad at moderate volume. You definitely need amp for these.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

what about the change in the currency ?

1 USD = Rs 46 at the moment
1 USD (2 yrs ago) = Rs 38

@akshay they are still around 5.5K.

With bill? I doubt. Was quoted 6.9k at Emperor, Cochin and hence Sankar went for the Auditor compos.

abhibh · 31st May 2010, 22:51

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Felt the Rainbows (SLX I guess) to be a bit bright. These were fed from 9887 HU and played bad at moderate volume. You definitely need amp for these.

Having used 9887 with my Rainbows i can assure you the culprit is 9887. The HU just exaggerates the mids which even causes fatigue on longer listening sessions.

Quote:

With bill? I doubt. Was quoted 6.9k at Emperor, Cochin and hence Sankar went for the Auditor compos.

Yes the price is with bill and some discount. MRP if i remember correctly was Rs. 5900.

panky12345 · 1st June 2010, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

]Yes the price is with bill and some discount. MRP if i remember correctly was Rs. 5900.

A member was quoted 7K for the same comps, IIRC.

naru · 2nd June 2010, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

Having used 9887 with my Rainbows i can assure you the culprit is 9887. The HU just exaggerates the mids which even causes fatigue on longer listening sessions.

abhibh, you've got 5039 + Rainbow in your Alto. how does it sound (with and without amp)? That's about the same combo I'm thinking of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

Yes the price is with bill and some discount. MRP if i remember correctly was Rs. 5900.

Bull's for 6k at gyro.

Sankar · 2nd June 2010, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

With bill? I doubt. Was quoted 6.9k at Emperor, Cochin and hence Sankar went for the Auditor compos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

Yes the price is with bill and some discount. MRP if i remember correctly was Rs. 5900.

Quote:

Originally Posted by naru

Bull's for 6k at gyro.

Are you guys sure about the price?
So guess i was quoted more for Bull at Emperor.

thelord · 2nd June 2010, 12:13

@naru
Look for a component set that offers soft dome tweeters. Most metal dome tweeters are generally more harsh than the silk domes. Couple that with heavy metal and you'll feel the pain in your ears in no time.

And I have to agree with akshay. The Bull Audio silk-dome tweeters are quite natural sounding. If you can extend your budget a bit, try some Rainbow/DLS components.

abhibh · 2nd June 2010, 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by naru

abhibh, you've got 5039 + Rainbow in your Alto. how does it sound (with and without amp)? That's about the same combo I'm thinking of.

Well i have always used them with AMP and they sound wonderful. Can't comment on how they sound without amp. Its a good combo for your heavy metal listening. Silk Dome tweeter and Metal Midbass

Try to visit GYRO and audition a few cars before deciding.

Regarding the HU 5039. Its a total VFM HU. Way better than the likes of Pioneer IMHO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankar

Are you guys sure about the price?
So guess i was quoted more for Bull at Emperor.

Yes 100% sure bulls are 6K MRP.

naru · 2nd June 2010, 16:28

Is JBL 608c soft dome?

30th May 2010, 18:32	#1
naru BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: NCR Posts: 132 Thanked: 37 Times	best budget component speakers for heavy metal? Went to elegant, and then driven, yesterday. Elegant pushed focal on me, but I'm not very sure about it. tried the 608c, but it was fixed in such a way couldn't change crossover settings kicker sounded the best of the 3. Which one would you guys suggest? Unfortunately, Mr Rana's out of town. He said he'll call on the 4th, but his installer, Mahesh, said they've got only Rainbow. Is it good? It'll run with a kenny HU. No amp (yet). Thanks. oops, i think i posted this in the wrong section. mods, pls move the thread. sorry. Last edited by naru : 30th May 2010 at 18:34. Reason: posting
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30th May 2010, 18:35	#2
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,151 Thanked: 4,525 Times View My Garage	Well you can check out the Bull Audio components too. but i heard their price has been hiked to 7.5K and likes They were best VFM Compos for 5.6K when i got them.
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30th May 2010, 19:18	#3
naru BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: NCR Posts: 132 Thanked: 37 Times	Ok, i'll try Bull too. One thing I want to know: I have a creative inspire 2.1 with motherboard-integrated 5.1 channel sound at home PC. And that sounds pretty damn good. What do i have to do to get that kind of sound in my car? The three comps i auditioned, though not bad, were nowhere near the clarity and richness. Last edited by naru : 30th May 2010 at 19:20.
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31st May 2010, 15:54	#4
alpha1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LandOfNoWinters Posts: 2,092 Thanked: 2,602 Times	^ That might be because your creative speakers are designed to hollow out the 200-600Hz response. And increase the "chan-chan" spectrum - 6KHz to 12KHz. If you have a graphic equalizer you can easily dial the Creative/Bose sound from a decent speaker system. Second thing is that home speakers have a well deigned cavity for their speakers - not hte same with car speakers.
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2nd June 2010, 12:13	#13
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	@naru Look for a component set that offers soft dome tweeters. Most metal dome tweeters are generally more harsh than the silk domes. Couple that with heavy metal and you'll feel the pain in your ears in no time. And I have to agree with akshay. The Bull Audio silk-dome tweeters are quite natural sounding. If you can extend your budget a bit, try some Rainbow/DLS components.
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naru BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: NCR Posts: 132 Thanked: 37 Times	Is JBL 608c soft dome?
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