abhipuru1.6'S ICE Query - Ford Fiesta 1.6S

bharti22shresth · 10th July 2010, 23:13

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Originally Posted by panky12345

He (LBM) is pretty right about that puny amp..

Audition it, compare it and THEN buy. After all its your hard earned money.

Sirji, no offense, but for the kind of money the 8401 retails for, it is BY FAR THE best amp you get, be it the way it makes the highs, the mids or the lows sound.
I guess you haven't had the chance to audition that amp properly. Never seen a person dis-satisfied with it, except a certain person i know who prefers Ms. poooja songs to everything else.

thelord · 10th July 2010, 23:23

abhipuru16
I think I'd refrain from commenting on my experience with Kenwood 8401 as I can already see a war of words coming.

Bro, listen to everyone's opinion but at the end, trust your ears. That's the golden rule in ICE.

Cheers

abhipuru16 · 10th July 2010, 23:43

Why restrain? Okay, send me a PM the lord!
Plus, I am very much tilted towards the Auditor amp as it is Focal's sister brand. My installer is all praises about it and told me that a customer exchanged his DUB amp for this Auditor and the sound was mind-blowing. Secondly, he suggests me the Kenwood 8401 amp. These two amps would definitely be auditioned by me when my new car comes home.

What about Blaupunkt GTA4 Special MK2? Would it turn out to be costlier because I heard about this car specific kit that has to be purchased separately.

I again ask Pankyji to suggest me a combo for my type of listening.

Pardon me but what are there Ms. Pooja songs?
And regarding the subwoofer, I have the ground zero GZTW MK2 and 30T in mind. But, I highly doubt if they would suit my tastes. Then, JBL CS1204BR is also in my list as it comes with it's own bass reflex enclosure. My installer however has this sub in JBL's own sealed enclosure. He suggests me an Infinity subwoofer as well which comes with it's own enclosure as it appears on the JBL website.

For me, choosing a subwoofer sounds much more difficult than an amplifier.

bharti22shresth · 10th July 2010, 23:50

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Originally Posted by abhipuru16

Why restrain? Okay, send me a PM the lord!
Plus, I am very much tilted towards the Auditor amp as it is Focal's sister brand. My installer is all praises about it and told me that a customer exchanged his DUB amp for this Auditor and the sound was mind-blowing. Secondly, he suggests me the Kenwood 8401 amp. These two amps would definitely be auditioned by me when my new car comes home.

What about Blaupunkt GTA4 Special MK2? Would it turn out to be costlier because I heard about this car specific kit that has to be purchased separately.

I again ask Pankyji to suggest me a combo for my type of listening.

Pardon me but what are there Ms. Pooja songs?

Ms. Pooja is a punjabi singer and her songs are well, you might as well just youtube them and listen what sort they are.

thelord · 10th July 2010, 23:56

The last I heard, even Genesis class A amps gave up playing her songs!

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Originally Posted by bharti22shresth

Ms. Pooja is a punjabi singer and her songs are well, you might as well just Youtube them and listen what sort they are.

abhipuru16 · 11th July 2010, 00:09

Hey Bharti!
Did you read about my listening tastes? If yes, what combo do you suggest for me?

whizzkid_ram · 11th July 2010, 00:38

How about this combo?

1. DLS CA31 – 3-channel amplifier. Two channels for speakers, and one mono channel for subwoofer – Comes around 9 to 10k

2. DLS W312D – 12” subwoofer & it plays very clean bass might come around Rs. 5 to 6k

bharti22shresth · 11th July 2010, 00:38

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Originally Posted by abhipuru16

Hey Bharti!
Did you read about my listening tastes? If yes, what combo do you suggest for me?

The 8401+ id CTX combo is just what you are looking for I think.

You could even look at 8401 + Bull audio sub of which I've only heard praises about but haven't auditioned yet.

But what I'd personally suggest to you would be a Bull audio amp (4 channel) + an id CTX sub.
I guess this could be a little out of your budget, but well, it's been the tradition of the ICE section to always make someone spend more than he initially aimed for.

abhibh · 11th July 2010, 01:06

You can even look at Blau sub if you are not looking to spend more than 4-5k for a sub. Though i doubt it will creep into your bones if you are planning to power any of the subwoofer with 200W odd RMS in a Fiesta.

low_bass_makker · 11th July 2010, 01:24

Abhi If I am not wrong you installed the MTX on my recommendation and I think you are not regretting it.

So go to your installer tell him to help you audition few subs + amps, select which you like the best. Simple if in doubt give me a call I can drop by to help.

DerAlte · 11th July 2010, 11:36

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Originally Posted by abhipuru16

... He said that entry level JBL Amps like the GT5 S644 would make my MTX components play "very bright". ...

2. As for the sub, ... "tube-like" enclosures. ... he replied in negative saying that they are very musical ...3. ... Should I get a sealed one or a ported? ...

That's very amusing, though to be expected considering they would push whatever gives them better margin.

You need sealed, and just about any mid-range sub - JBL, Blau, Bull, ID CTX, GZ, Polk, Kicker, etc. would do for you, simply because your father is the primary user, and not you. Keep the sub amp set at a level that you are just aware of its presence, and you can detect it's absence. If in your father's absence you want to turn it up to enjoy, change the setting at the HU to crank it up a bit.

By the way, bass in hip-hop is meant to be enjoyed with a let-the-world-hear-the-boom boomy system. This is completely different from the way acoustic bass (cello bass) or electric bass is supposed to sound.

Keep your logic simple - at least you will get to enjoy the music. In your circumstances, the quest for the ideal combination is likely to leave you more confused and selection of anything less likely.

abhipuru16 · 11th July 2010, 12:46

It is not that my father would be the prime listener. If the suggestions work out just like my listening tastes then, I really don't need to think much. But, what I buy should be good enough and suit my tastes because this is how my father and I enjoy music. That was just a statement and not a ''limitation''. Hope you understand. What amp do you suggest for me Deralte?

One more question- do sealed subs have a good punch and ''go low''? Are they versatile as in my case?

low_bass_makker · 11th July 2010, 13:07

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Originally Posted by abhipuru16

One more question- do sealed subs have a good punch and ''go low''? Are they versatile as in my case?

I would not say that. It depends a lot on the enclosure. Be it be ported or sealed it all depends on the tuning of the same. For me I love ported !!!

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ankit_chd · 11th July 2010, 13:11

See sealed boxes will be more precise with its kick . It may not go that loud when compared to ported but then ported aint that precise with the kick . I have been using sealed enclosure for long time now and i simply love it as it suits my taste of music.

I would suggest you to audition few subs instead of asking everybody for there preference of combination of amps + subs . Everybody has different listening taste .

Some people would not like how a xyz sub sounds but an other person would love that same xyz sub as it suits his music taste .

Go out and audition . All the best

abhipuru16 · 11th July 2010, 13:30

See Ankit, this is the first time I would be going for such a system in my car. It is just that I assume most of the Gurus here are well versed with which brands ''may'' suit my taste. I am surely not going to buy anything purely based on recommendations. A lot of auditioning would be going in. As a matter of fact, I am going to bug LBMji to again give me an audition of his setup playing my kind of songs. LBMji, you listening? LOL! I am here to ask for suggestions and take advices on various brands. Auditioning would be done by me of course.LOL!
If you go some pages back, you may read about my listening tastes. Then, you may suggest me something.

10th July 2010, 23:23	#32
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	abhipuru16 I think I'd refrain from commenting on my experience with Kenwood 8401 as I can already see a war of words coming. Bro, listen to everyone's opinion but at the end, trust your ears. That's the golden rule in ICE. Cheers Last edited by thelord : 10th July 2010 at 23:39.
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10th July 2010, 23:43	#33
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	Why restrain? Okay, send me a PM the lord! Plus, I am very much tilted towards the Auditor amp as it is Focal's sister brand. My installer is all praises about it and told me that a customer exchanged his DUB amp for this Auditor and the sound was mind-blowing. Secondly, he suggests me the Kenwood 8401 amp. These two amps would definitely be auditioned by me when my new car comes home. What about Blaupunkt GTA4 Special MK2? Would it turn out to be costlier because I heard about this car specific kit that has to be purchased separately. I again ask Pankyji to suggest me a combo for my type of listening. Pardon me but what are there Ms. Pooja songs? And regarding the subwoofer, I have the ground zero GZTW MK2 and 30T in mind. But, I highly doubt if they would suit my tastes. Then, JBL CS1204BR is also in my list as it comes with it's own bass reflex enclosure. My installer however has this sub in JBL's own sealed enclosure. He suggests me an Infinity subwoofer as well which comes with it's own enclosure as it appears on the JBL website. For me, choosing a subwoofer sounds much more difficult than an amplifier. Last edited by abhipuru16 : 10th July 2010 at 23:57.
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11th July 2010, 00:09	#36
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	Hey Bharti! Did you read about my listening tastes? If yes, what combo do you suggest for me?
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11th July 2010, 00:38	#37
whizzkid_ram BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 168 Thanked: 7 Times	How about this combo? 1. DLS CA31 – 3-channel amplifier. Two channels for speakers, and one mono channel for subwoofer – Comes around 9 to 10k 2. DLS W312D – 12” subwoofer & it plays very clean bass might come around Rs. 5 to 6k
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11th July 2010, 01:06	#39
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	You can even look at Blau sub if you are not looking to spend more than 4-5k for a sub. Though i doubt it will creep into your bones if you are planning to power any of the subwoofer with 200W odd RMS in a Fiesta.
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11th July 2010, 01:24	#40
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Abhi If I am not wrong you installed the MTX on my recommendation and I think you are not regretting it. So go to your installer tell him to help you audition few subs + amps, select which you like the best. Simple if in doubt give me a call I can drop by to help. Last edited by low_bass_makker : 11th July 2010 at 01:27.
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11th July 2010, 12:46	#42
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	It is not that my father would be the prime listener. If the suggestions work out just like my listening tastes then, I really don't need to think much. But, what I buy should be good enough and suit my tastes because this is how my father and I enjoy music. That was just a statement and not a ''limitation''. Hope you understand. What amp do you suggest for me Deralte? One more question- do sealed subs have a good punch and ''go low''? Are they versatile as in my case? Last edited by abhipuru16 : 11th July 2010 at 12:54.
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11th July 2010, 13:11	#44
ankit_chd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 262 Thanked: 28 Times	See sealed boxes will be more precise with its kick . It may not go that loud when compared to ported but then ported aint that precise with the kick . I have been using sealed enclosure for long time now and i simply love it as it suits my taste of music. I would suggest you to audition few subs instead of asking everybody for there preference of combination of amps + subs . Everybody has different listening taste . Some people would not like how a xyz sub sounds but an other person would love that same xyz sub as it suits his music taste . Go out and audition . All the best
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11th July 2010, 13:30	#45
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	See Ankit, this is the first time I would be going for such a system in my car. It is just that I assume most of the Gurus here are well versed with which brands ''may'' suit my taste. I am surely not going to buy anything purely based on recommendations. A lot of auditioning would be going in. As a matter of fact, I am going to bug LBMji to again give me an audition of his setup playing my kind of songs. LBMji, you listening? LOL! I am here to ask for suggestions and take advices on various brands. Auditioning would be done by me of course.LOL! If you go some pages back, you may read about my listening tastes. Then, you may suggest me something.
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