Re: Indian Railway’s new WDG5 Locomotive, supported by Electro-Motive Diesel Quote:
Originally Posted by tharian I have the same question as to who decides the loco for a train.
WDP4b are present with KJM and used extensively on Udyan, Kurla Cbe express and few others.
KJM may have a higher loco failure rate as I have often seen long distance expresses returning few hours late hauled by another loco with the dead loco behind. And rarely have seen ED and MLY coming in dead. |
Let me put in my two cents. Other members may correct me if I'm wrong.
Trains get locomotives based on a need to move the locomotives to other locations. This is worked out between the railway divisions that offer a terminus /traction changeover point for that particular train. Using such locomotives to haul a train may be more efficient in the long run. For e.g - Karnataka Exp used to get the ET Twins all the way from Manmad to SBC. One reason could be the fact that it ran a lot of its journey on CR territory. Gooty or Guntakal, being SCR territory was never a traction changeover point/terminus and hence its locos were never used. Agreed KJM WDM3A twins couldve been used, but I feel it was Itarsi (ET) twins simply because the route of the train passes through Itarsi (traction changeover/crew change point), the loco's home shed, allowing the loco to conveniently be brought back there for maintenance.
As far as I know, KJM locos have a lower failure rate compared to its counterparts. Its locos do duty far and wide in the southern states. Quote:
Originally Posted by sandeepmohan The MLY twin links for the Karnataka exp are shared with Ajanta Exp which runs from Secunderabad to Manmad. |
That might've been a on-off case, but on my journeys till a couple of years ago, it was always the ET twins that did the duty. Quote:
Originally Posted by sandeepmohan It is actually the other way round. KJM got WDP4 in abundance and was very late to get WDG4 locomotives. DG4 arrived as late as last year for KJM.
Some of this is clearly the result of politics at play. In most cases, its about keeping the locomotive running with a train as much as possible. In the case of the Karnataka express which used to be behind Itarsi diesels, the extension of electric traction up to Manmad (Was up to Itarsi previously) added a good 500km of distance that the train can run behind a electric locomotive. Now for Itarsi, they will have to find a way to ferry back their diesel locomotive (running under wires) for those 500km had they continued with the link. It is possible that no train required a diesel link anymore now that Itarsi-Manmad is energized. It probably made more sense for them to stop the link and hand it over the MLY, etc. Its all down to the links mostly.
Sheds value prestigious links and rarely give it up. It must have been a big blow for Itarsi to loose the link for Karnataka.
Gooty has ruled the briganza section for years so this could be a political hold. Besides; the shed is probably trying to save itself from being closed as the region around GY is now under wires. There are various factors at play. Freight in Briganza is a mix of UBL and GY. Oddly, GY ends up getting test mule locomotives from DLW, Varanasi. The first WDM3F was with them. They got a WDP4D before UBL and KJM did! |
Most of the DG4's in SWR are allocated to UBL (Hubli) shed. DP4's are homed at KJM. Don't know why, but thats seems to be the case.
GY runs on Braganza because it was under SCR territory before being moved to SWR in 2003. Quote:
Originally Posted by addyhemmige Could be true, since the Braganza ghat region was under SCR before.
SWR seems to be lagging behind in electrification compared to all other zones (KR apart) in the country. Apart from the Bangalore city region, no other city under SWR has been electrified. Has SBC-MYS line been earmarked for electrification along with track doubling? |
Perfectly summarised, totally agree with you here. Sheds don't like giving up their prestigious links. As far as Itarsi giving up its link, it was bound to happen anyways. Now that the only sector left for electrification on Karnataka Exp's entire link would be GR-SUR-DD. This 300km sector is in the process of being doubled and electrified. After which I think it would get LGD P4 or P7 for its entire run from SBC to NDLS.
Gotta blame the government for not actively putting its demands infront of the Central Government. SBC-MYS link work is going on b/w Srirangapatna and Mysuru. Sub-stations are being worked upon for energizing this route. Quote:
Originally Posted by sandeepmohan Yes and its taking its own sweet time. The reason for SWR to go easy on electric traction is low traffic. It is just not enough to justify it. The movement around the region is also minimal. Its evident in Bangalore itself. The peak is mostly the morning and evening. Movement during daytime is very low. A train every half an hour (sometimes longer) at the most. |
This is simply because our railway infrastructure happens to be extremely poor. Single line, no electrification, rail routes being longer than road routes which drastically increases journey time. For e.g- I mean UBL-BGM is routed via Londa and Alnavar which makes it 40 kms more than the road route. For e.g- Journey times via road from SBC to UBL would be 6.5 hours via a Volvo, but the fastest train between the two stations happens to be 12079 Jan Shatabdi and that takes 7.5 hours. Express trains take 8 hours or more. Also most of the places in Karnataka aren't connected by rail. People naturally prefer to take buses. |