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Originally Posted by Newpunter if the operator is selling tickets for a Volvo, it has to be a volvo, not any generic A/c bus.
There is a world of difference between the two. The comfort and speed of a Volvo is unmatched so far in our country. a Volvo would have taken much less time to reach there. I was told the right time was around 8:30 to 9 AM. |
This is exactly my point. Thank you so much. Speed and pickup & ride comfort is more in Volvo rather than in Ceritas et all.
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Originally Posted by kpzen Selling tickets with the name of Volvo is not ethically correct.
But, Whats wrong with HINO buses ? |
Talking about the informed segment, There are specific advertisements like "multi-axle" volvo, "multi-axle" Mercedes etc for the informed segment. If the operator or market was really naive, multi axle or even 10 axles would not make a difference at all.
Nothing is wrong with HINO Buses. If Volvos are sold as volvos and HINOs as HINOs, Its a win win situation for the person who wants to travel by Volvo & HINO. When i pay the money in full for a Volvo, I personally expect B7R, B9R or the upcoming B12R. I dont prefer Ceritas, Hinos etc.
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Originally Posted by nozzlering scopriobharath, IMO, your complaint is a bit childish.
By the way, Shivneri is at anytime better than other private operators. |
It is an indian law that the customer MUST be informed about the operator and vehicle. On a similar note, cleartrip had a scheme where one was supposed to book an air ticket for a generic flight between say 2-4 pm. Operator and exact time was shared only a day before the flight. Court was against this as this is a basic human right to know which flight i go.
Similarly, When i pay for a volvo, i expect B7R or B9R only. If i want Hino or mercedes, allow me to select that bus, dont force me to take one. Karnataka KSRTC offers this facility, why not others.
Agreed - Shivneri is far better than Neeta and Purple.
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Originally Posted by freewheelburnin I too had similar experience in Chennai.Guess People interchangably use name "Volvo" for AC buses.I took a volvo bus ticket and on entering bus found it was not volvo.I asked the bus conductor and he said it is "Indian Volvo". |
Right - This is also a case of cheating. The bus can be promoted as an AC Airbus and not Volvo.
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Originally Posted by srishiva Well, if Volvo buses are charged more, you should get a Volvo bus. Else, he should just state the ticket value and leave the choice to the customer. |
Right - This is what i am telling. This happens in KArnataka KSRTC. You can choose the bus. Ambaari and Mayura are "volvo type" but promoted as AC Air bus and not Volvo. I like this attitude.
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Originally Posted by noopster Why are you making such a big deal about this? Are the Cerita (or other) buses you travelled by that uncomfortable? |
I personally felt Volvo B7 & B9 more comfortable and faster than other. The speed and comfort of Volvo cannot be matched by other manufacturers.
For one instance, A cerita struggled to climb the Lonavla Ghat section on the Mum-pune expressway while a B7R just sped away.
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Originally Posted by esteem_lover Add less travel tiredness because of a superior suspension compared to a Hino.
Yes, if you are paying for a Volvo, you should get a volvo or a discount in your ticket to match the ticket cost of a non Volvo. Tickets in a Volvo are priced very high due to the initial investment cost for the travels operator. Why should anyone pay the same for half priced Hino bus. Mercedes should be clubbed with Volvo. |
Agreed - Fatigue is less in Volvo. Ceritas and Hinos cost 20 lacs lesser and should have a ticket price of at least 50/- lesser than B7s & B9s.
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Originally Posted by volkman10 It is the customer to decide that he gets the comfort and ride quality for the value that he paid for, whether Volvo or non -Volvo.
Not clear in this case, seems the customer is getting the comfort and ride quality. Not sure if this thread would serve its intended purpose! |
The comfort level is like this Asiad --> Cerita et all --> Mercedes --> Volvo. Cerita offers good ride comfort no doubt but Volvo offers the MOST comfortable ride. Volvo has the fastest pickup of the lot. For uninformed segment it really does not matter but in the informed segment, it really matters, at least to me.
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Originally Posted by ninjatalli lol.
I would love to know what was going through the minds of the driver/conductor of the bus (in your 2009 based incident) |
I initially boarded the bus and infered that it was not a Volvo. I asked my wife to get down and I too unloaded the luggage and got down and told this is not a Volvo. Every staff member was telling its a Volvo. I clearly told them its a JCBL Cerita and not a Volvo. The look on the faces was like how they would feel if i asked to write his property in my name
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Trust me, I got into the next B7R that followed and it overtook that "Cerita Volvo" at the Khandala Ghats.
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All I am saying is to promote the Bus as an AC Air Bus and not Volvo. By no means is AC Air bus lower or bad or below standards. Sell Apples as apples and Oranges as oranges.