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The board of Maruti Suzuki, India's largest passenger carmaker, has just cleared a proposal to start manufacturing light commercial vehicles (LCV).



A note of importance is that the two-cylinder 800cc engine, a naturally aspirated variant for LCV and turbocharged variant for small cars are at an advanced stage of development. The company is also strongly considering extending the family of diesel engines to the 1.2-litre three-cylinder engine and 1.4-litre four-cylinder engines.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/20075823.cms


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Maruti Suzuki will roll out a brand new LCV (codenamed Y9T) from its Gujarat plant which will become operational in 2016, reports the Economic Times. This was communicated to its vendors in Malaysia last week. The new LCV will also come with a new 2 cylinder 800 cc Diesel engine, now in an advanced stage of development. Offering an LCV option will help Maruti target the lucrative (and profitable) commercial sector that is dominated by Tata and Mahindra. The LCV is a ground up design that is being developed entirely in India.

Of particular importance is the new diesel engine being developed by Maruti Suzuki. The LCV will feature a naturally-aspirated version of the 800cc 2 cylinder Diesel, while a turbocharged variant will be offered on Maruti's budget hatchbacks.

100 bucks says that this LCV will be based on the Omni. Reasons:

1. Maruti's Indian center isn't capable of developing an all-new platform (unfortunately).

2. The Omni is cheap to build. Completely localised, machinery fully depreciated long back, healthy volumes = economies of scale.

3. Omni can carry reasonably heavy loads. Is abuse friendly.

4. Ready variants : Cargo layout, Ambulance, 5 seater, 8 seater.

5. It's light, hence should be able to manage on a small 2-cylinder diesel.

In my view, it may look like omni but will be completely different animal under the hood. One simple reason is Omni being a monocoque, which is not suitable for cargo application. Omni cargo currently has failures when is loaded heavily. So definitely it should be a ladder frame type only.

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I for sure know that in the late 80s MUL had been running few Omni's with flat beds for their internal operations similar to the below.



My uncle (works with MUL) had used one such Light Blue colored Omni to transport his household goods. Dont know why they did not mass produce it. Would have been a great selling commercial product.

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Though it may be based on an existing platform, I don't think it is going to be a mini-van / Omni sort of vehicle.

As far as I know, it is going to be something like an Ace - read mini truck. So it must be a body-on-chassis vehicle.

Both the Omni and Versa/Eeco have 2 door pickup versions in the international markets, it's just a matter of decision choosing between the two(both being different generations of the same model).
:OT they could have also brought the Suzuki APV, but since now the Ertiga is here, that's a far fetched idea.

Maruti’s LCV coming out within 2 years; Fiat MultiJet powered .

The carry is nothing but a small pickup truck derived from the Maruti Omni.

The yet to be named LCV would be pitted against the Tata Ace, Mahindra Maxximo Mini Truck and the Ashok Leyland Dost. MSIL has not yet decided whether to retail the LCV alongside its passenger cars or set up an independent retail network.

http://indianautosblog.com/2013/07/m...wo-years-89490

Something tells me, the new LCV from Maruti may not be Omni/Suzuki Carry/SuperCarry based.
Key thing to note here is that Maruti is benchmarking & targeting ACE, Maxximo Plus and AL Dost as their chief competitors.

The payload of the above trio varies between 0.75-1.25 tons.

The survival of the existing Omni chassis - even after suitable strengthening - to take such loads, as well as overloads, is doubtful, under indian LCV ab-usage conditions:)

Also fitting the Fiat 1.3 MJD under the front seats of the Omni/Carry/Versa/SuperCarry will be very difficult as the 1.3MJD has quite a tall plenum chamber.

I think Maruti will again pull a rabbit out of its hat.

Strong chance that they will take the existing Gypsy ladder frame chassis. The Gypsy underpinnings are immensely strong, (as proven in the numerous rallies it has completed), design a new cab and install the Fiat 1.3MJD in a north-south direction. Suspension is also simple. Leaf springs at either end with telescopic dampers, which can take an enormous amount of beating and overloading.

It makes absolute sense from a product, cost and packaging perspective.

The 1.3 MJD is already configured as a rear-drive unit in the Premier Rio and the Chevrolet Enjoy - so it will not be a big deal for Maruti's engineers to buy these vehicles from the market, benchmark it in detail and replicate a similar powertrain configuration in a Gypsy based LCV. Gearing, of course, will be suitably altered for load carrying applications.

MUL can always develop a small diesel which they can use in the sub 1-tonne segment and also in their passenger car range such as the Alto's & Wagon-R's.

1) the current presence in cargo carrier with omni cargo , doesn't qualify maruti to venture in to this segment.
2) ladder type chassis is the best suited and maruti doesn't have one , so it is a all new development
3) maruti has to go for a all new engine , less than 1.3 l fiat engine
4) they have a to make a clear plan , if they want to use the same after sales network.
5) maruti , even though is preset in indian market for a log time , they need to really learn from the market , LCV market.
6) what will be the impact on the image ....as a passenger car manufacturer. Few customers may move away from this brand .

I am not too sure, but I think I once saw a Gypsy Pickup truck around the early 90's. Its not too late after announcement of scrapping of the Gypsy, but adding the fiat multijet to the Gypsy platform and then making an LCV out of it would have a dual benefit of having something to take on the Thar on the personal vehicle space. LCV would bring volumes and the same vehicle sold as a personal vehicle will finish whatever remains of the Thar.

Suzuki introduces new gen Carry in Japan- Will the proposed Indian LCV derive its roots from the new Suzuki Carry?



http://indianautosblog.com/2013/08/2...ry-japan-93683


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Maruti’s first diesel engine to power small LCV.

Maruti is developing its first in-house diesel engine – a two-cylinder, 800cc unit that will debut in the next-generation Suzuki ‘Carry’ light commercial vehicle (code: Y9T).

Maruti is focusing on delivering best-in-class fuel economy, performance and durability – the area that matters the most for commercial operations.

Maruti also plans to develop a redesigned version of this engine that will find its way into the company’s line-up of smaller passenger cars later on.


http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...cv-359350.aspx

Suzuki Carry based Maruti Y9T pick up truck to be sold with diesel and CNG options. The company is targeting to enter the 14,000 units a month strong mini truck segment.

India’s largest car maker will foray into the commercial vehicle (CV) space next year, when it launches the Indianized version of the Suzuki Carry mini pick up truck. Codenamed the Y9T, the Carry will be outfitted with an 800 cc turbo diesel engine that Suzuki Japan is developing for use in the mini pick up truck. A twin cylinder turbo diesel motor, the 800 cc engine could eventually land into Maruti Suzuki small cars if refined enough for use in the passenger car segments.

Maruti Suzuki is also said to be readying up petrol and CNG powered versions of the Carry/Y9T pick up truck. The 1.2 liter-4 cylinder petrol engine from the Eeco mini van is likely to be the engine option that will power the CNG and petrol engined versions of the pick up truck. The diesel engined Y9T could start at 4 lakh rupees, and will be aimed at market leader Tata Ace.


http://www.business-standard.com/art...1300856_1.html