[GTO]

JCB unveils the new JS205LC Tracked Excavator, developed and manufactured in India for the Indian market.

The JS205LC is suited for applications such as Earthwork, Quarrying and Road Construction. The engine is rated for max power of 106kw and a bucket capacity of 0.8 cu.m – 1.02 cu.m.

It provides a choice of "Power" and "Economy" modes. JCB’s load sensing hydraulic system has been designed for lower energy needs which result in fuel & cost savings.

JCB’s Plexus Oil Filter System extends hydraulic oil life up to 5000 hours, thereby reducing maintenance costs. Other additions include the wire mesh which is provided to avoid clogging of the radiator and oil cooler.

The cabin has an air-conditioning option.

[directinjection]

So this particular model isn't sold in any other market?
Which engine does it use? What's the indigenous content of this machine? What development work was carried out in India? Will it be exported to other countries?

[julupani]

Didnt know JCB was much into tracked excavators in India. This seems like a pretty small one, more for road works or construction application. Will probably have a 100-150hp engine.

JCB in India completely dominates the backhoe loaders, and has a presence among the small equipments.

But the large construction and mining sector is dominated by the big boys, ie Hitachi, Komatsu, Volvo and Caterpillar.

[Blue Thunder]

Originally Posted by julupani

Didnt know JCB was much into tracked excavators in India. This seems like a pretty small one, more for road works or construction application. Will probably have a 100-150hp engine....

JCB India has been selling the JS-200 tracked excavators here for some time now. Those were made in technical collaboration with Sumitomo of Japan (the "S" in the model name standing for Sumitomo).

This one also looks like the "standard" size for excavators (going by model number convention), the smaller ones would have model numbers like -60 or -100.

L&T was the pioneer in the tracked excavators market in India, so much so that the brand (Poclain, from L&T-Poclain) became the generic name for the tracked excavators among the users.

[wantarangerover]

Looks like a 20 tonner - That is the biggest selling of all tracked excavators, all over the world. I believe JCB has a development centre in Pune, with testing facilities as well.

I don't know what they mean by 'Developed in India'. It would not be more than some structural changes to cope up with the rigors of the Indian market. Not sure any changes would have been to done to the hydraulics, as it's pretty sensitive an affair. Maybe some changes to the drivetrain to cut costs? And yes, the customary costdown exercise in the Cabin- throw out all the luxury stuff- Although AC is an option. There might be other changes as well, based on the regulations in India- Europe and many markets have what is called Tier4 regulations. I think India will have something similar to Tier3.

[julupani]

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

JCB India has been selling the JS-200 tracked excavators here for some time now. Those were made in technical collaboration with Sumitomo of Japan (the "S" in the model name standing for Sumitomo).

This one also looks like the "standard" size for excavators (going by model number convention), the smaller ones would have model numbers like -60 or -100.

L&T was the pioneer in the tracked excavators market in India, so much so that the brand (Poclain, from L&T-Poclain) became the generic name for the tracked excavators among the users.

JCB may have been selling tracked excavators for some time, but I dont see their popularity to be very high. I see L&T Komatsu and Tata Hitachis most often, as well as some Caterpillars and Volvos.

As for "standard" size, yes probably for construction operations this is pretty standard, and will probably be among the highest selling sizes. But even among construction excavators, there are models which can have max weight of over 40tons.

Overall excavators are available in a very very wide range. From really small 2-3ton operating weight excavators, to massive mining excavators that can carry a couple of hundred tons in a single scoop. By that logic I said its a small one.

Originally Posted by wantarangerover

I don't know what they mean by 'Developed in India'. It would not be more than some structural changes to cope up with the rigors of the Indian market. Not sure any changes would have been to done to the hydraulics, as it's pretty sensitive an affair. Maybe some changes to the drivetrain to cut costs? And yes, the customary costdown exercise in the Cabin- throw out all the luxury stuff- Although AC is an option.

I get the feeling that the LC part of the JS205LC means low cost.

[agambhandari]

JCB seems to be an almost luxury brand. The dealership here is in the same complex as the BMW and even has common management. Interesting to see a Non-Air conditioned vehicle roll out of a BMW dealership!!

[Latheesh]

Originally Posted by GTO

Other additions include the wire mesh which is provided to avoid clogging of the radiator and oil cooler.

Is that the part they developed in India?

Never seen a JCB excavator in action. Market is ruled by Hitachi and Komatsu. They rule backhoe loader market in India, what is the USP of this machine?

[Blue Thunder]

Originally Posted by directinjection

...Which engine does it use? ...

From the JCB India website...

Originally Posted by JCB India

21.25 T Tracked Excavator with Cummins 6BT 5.9C engine,6-cylinder, in-line fuel injection, turbo-charged.

[Latheesh]

^^

Oh, even Hitachi machine use the same engine right? good to see competitors using the same engine.

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

From the JCB India website...

Thanks BT!

Originally Posted by Latheesh

^^

Oh, even Hitachi machine use the same engine right? good to see competitors using the same engine.

Cummins 5.9 is to Indian CVs what Fiat 1.3 is to Indian cars!

[julupani]

Originally Posted by directinjection

Cummins 5.9 is to Indian CVs what Fiat 1.3 is to Indian cars!

Very rightly said. The 5.9L Cummins Bseries engine probably moves more tonnes around this country than any thing else. It is more deserving of the "National Engine" honour.

[Jeroen]

Originally Posted by julupani

JCB may have been selling tracked excavators for some time, but I dont see their popularity to be very high. I see L&T Komatsu and Tata Hitachis most often, as well as some Caterpillars and Volvos.
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Originally Posted by Latheesh

Never seen a JCB excavator in action. Market is ruled by Hitachi and Komatsu. They rule backhoe loader market in India, what is the USP of this machine?

I no next to nothing about this particular Industry, other then I find it interesting and they make some imposing machinery.

JCB claims to be market leader in India though. http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...eo_806996.html

Jeroen

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by agambhandari

JCB seems to be an almost luxury brand. The dealership here is in the same complex as the BMW and even has common management. Interesting to see a Non-Air conditioned vehicle roll out of a BMW dealership!!

In Delhi you can see a Ferrari and Ashok Leyland in the same building near Le Meridian. But recently they have moved out I guess.

[Latheesh]

Originally Posted by Jeroen

JCB claims to be market leader in India though. http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...eo_806996.html

Jeroen

They are the market leader in backhoe loader but excavator market is ruled by Tata-Hitachi and L&T Komatsu.