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Originally Posted by shipnil So what was the story of that incident? Could you please post here? |
I've never had to brace, but I've experienced several interesting incidents. One did involve the fire engines chasing us:
Here's what happened. Its many years ago. I was flying a KLM Cityhopper Fokker 50 from Amsterdam to Bordeaux. I had some meetings there.
I was sitting right behind the cockpit. In those days they left the cockpit door routinely open, so every body could watch.
Normal flight. We land and a few seconds after the wheels touchdown I hear the fire alarm in the cockpit go off! Before we had come to a complete stop there were two fire engines, one on the right side, one on the left side, barreling along us. As soon as the plane came to a full stop, several fire men ran towards our plane and started inspecting the landing gear.
The captain came on the PA and told us this was just a pre-caution, as they had received an "cockpit indication". Within a few minutes everything was apparently under control and the captain told us we were proceeding normally to our gate and there was nothing to worry about.
That evening in the bar of my hotel I ran into the same KLM cabin and cockpit crew. Turned out we were staying in the same hotel.
So I had a little chat with the captain. He told me that a soon as they touched down the tower reported smoke from the right main landing gear and they told the fire brigade to roll immediately. The cockpit did get a fire alarm at the same time. I was actually sitting at the right side of this plane watching the landing gear as we touched down. This is one of the few plane where you can actually see the tires hitting the tarmac and the gear flexing. And I remember thinking, that's quite a bit of smoke. I thought it was just tire smoke. Never seen this up close, so not sure what to expect.
Apparently, what happens with these Fokker 50, is that oil from the engine now and then leaks on the gear and other components. Nothing much, but as soon as it heats up, (braking) it produces a lot of smoke. Captain told me it happened to him at least once a year. I was surprised to see the fire tenders so quickly at our side. And the captain confirmed that they were much quicker than normal. As it so happens these two fire tenders were driving around the airport and were at our runway when we touched down. So when the tower told them to roll, they only had to put the pedal to the metal and catch up with us.
Last week on JetAirways 9W332 Delhi to Mumbai we apparently suffered from a loss of cabin pressure:
This is the text I send to JetAirways:
About 20-30 minutes into the flight, I noticed we started a pretty sharp
descent and turn.
No announcement were made untill about 30 minutes later.
What was remarkable that we kept descending, very gradually but continuously. I have never flown that long that low in a
commercial jet. I am a private pilot so I'm reasonable sure on my estimates on our altitude.
Whilst parked at the gate, the captain announced that the technical issue was "a loss of cabin pressure"
I'd like a thorough explanation on the following three questions:
1) Communication during the flight
The communication during the flight was appalling. Absolutely nothing was done to give the passenger any sense of comfort or safety. Everybody knew something was happening, everybody was pushing the flight attendant push bottom,but they had no information or consolation to offer. When the captain finally did come over the PA he only announced we have a technical issue and are returning to Delhi. No comforting words that we should not have to worry, that it would be a normal landing or anything.
2) Why did we come in so low? We were well below any known published approach I'm familiar with.
3) Why was there no communication, none, for twenty minutes whilst at the gate? Everybody was standing up, we were not allowed to leave the plane, but nobody, neither flight crew or cabin crew made any announcements.
They have promised me an answer by this Monday, so we'll see.
Jeroen