Mods, please delete my previous post since it wasn't complete.
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Originally Posted by Jeeper1941 |
India's home grown LCH is more modern and superior. The Rooivalk is pretty pointless for India to consider, and it has never been made or sold in numbers and remains an unproven quantity. It makes sense for India to invest in it's homegrown product.
The Apache is in a different weightclass and brings capabilities, especially the Longbow radar (which is unique in the world) that Indian homegrown R&D has not been able to catch up to yet.
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Originally Posted by pedrolourenco In what way are American weapons superior to Russian ones? The MiG's ans Sukhoi's are far superior to the American jets. Also I think the Russians have an equivalent of the Apache. |
Are you joking, or genuinely ignorant? The Sukhois and Migs were great at aerodynamics but even in their heyday they were well behind the Americans on avionics. Sure in a dogfight they might give a western plane (4th gen and earlier like F-16/18; F-15 would have equal or better low speed maneuverability) a tough fight but most modern airfights are played out over long distances using BVR (beyond visual range) missiles - here is where American radar, computing power, avionics and man-machine interface, and proven missiles like the AMRAAM-D vastly outclass the Russians. And that is the case even with American 4G aircraft like F15s and F16s - check out the Iraq and other wars - with a stealth fighter like the F22, the Migs and Sukhoi will not even know it is around and hunting them. American engine technology is at least 2 generations ahead. The Russians were barely in the game by the time the USSR collapsed, and since they their military-industrial complex has been barely scraping by, mainly due to Indian orders. Whereas the Americans have further upped their game and moved the goalposts with their stealth aircraft.
The Indian SU-30 MKI is a beast, but that is because it uses the brute power of the Russian airframe, combined with Israeli, French and Indian brains. But even that, I am afraid, will be outclassed by the latest western airplanes (even non-stealth 4G ones) because of their combination of AESA radar, superior avionics, sensor fusion, and proven AA-missiles (the R-77 missiles that our planes carry are of 80s vintage and have barely been updated, whereas the American AMRAAM has been proven in war and has had continuous improvement made to it).
Western aircraft are also vastly more reliable, with the availability of the fleet for war-fighting and the turnaround time for maintenance in a completely different leagure from the Russian aircraft. Sure they can put on a nice display in an airshow that wows fanboys, but for the people who have to fight a war, logistics and reliability are the prime parameters. Google for the issues that the IAF are having with our SU30 fleet - the SU27/30 family is BTW, the most widely produced and proven fighter that the Russians currently have. The IAF's Mig 29 fighters had so many problems with spares availability and smoky engines and what not.
This is not to put down the Russian aircraft industry, they had many pioneers of aviation, and they have many legendary aircraft. In fact the mathematical models and concepts on which modern stealth aircraft are based were first invented by a Russian - they lacked the industrial expertise to actually build it, whereas the Americans went ahead and built it. It is just that the Americans have been at the game longer, have a more powerful military industrial complex, and have simply surged way more ahead than they already were, after the collapse of the USSR.
Coming to the helicopters, the Russians make some good, proven rugged helicopters. They were behind on avionics but now they have caught up by integrating avionics from various sources. The Mi-17 for example is a brilliant aircraft, and the fearsome Mi35 Hind is a pretty good (though dated) model that is proven in combat. Their cutting edge attack helicopter is the Mi28n, which is a pretty decent attack helicopter.
However the Apache is head and shoulders above everyone else as an attack helicopter and especially as a tank killer. Pretty much all aspects of the Apache are superior to everything else out there, but the absolute standout feature is the Longbow radar (mounted below the top rotor). It allows a helicopter to hid out behind a mountain ridge or treeline and still kill tanks with it's long range missiles. Nobody else in the world has that tech - the engineering problem of how to stabilize a radar mounted near the rotors so that it remains useful and accurate has been too much for anybody else to crack.
Apart from the Longbow radar, the sensor package including the FLIR (think of it as an infrared camera that can spot people on the ground from 10km away and target the gun to shoot at them like it were a video game) is simply awesome.
Check out this real footage from an Apache's FLIR:
Combined with India's LCH (which has world class capabilities, including high altitude capability) the Apaches will make one hell of fighting force.