[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Another vehicle added to the list to the list of slow moving overloaded vehicles on highways, flyovers and busy roads. A way to increase chaos.

Very true indeed. As if Tata Aces and AshLey Dosts were no enough, now this.

A simple drive from Hebbal all the way till Windsor Manor and everyone will agree to what you mention - All 3 lanes occupied by these slow moving LCVs, crawling at 20 KMPH and then they struggle to climb those quick flyovers on the Magic Boxes till here. Now I don't wish there is a Bus or a Cab strike, I wish there should be a day when LCVs are on strike.

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Another vehicle added to the list to the list of slow moving overloaded vehicles on highways, flyovers and busy roads. A way to increase chaos.

True.

One thing I have noticed about UAE and Dubai in general is that inspite of being a small country with high vehicular population, the traffic still remains reasonably light. Reasons being -

• No underpowered vehicles to slow you down. Even the trucks are powerful and easily cruise at 60-80 kmph on the normal roads and 100 kmph on the highways.
  
• Streamlined traffic with reasonable lane discipline.
  
• Not too many junctions, signals or intersections which may slow down traffic. Instead they use flyovers and ramps at junctions to send vehicles in the other directions, which keeps the traffic moving.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Another vehicle added to the list of slow moving overloaded vehicles on highways, flyovers and busy roads. A way to increase chaos.

Originally Posted by paragsachania

Very true indeed. As if Tata Aces and AshLey Dosts were no enough, now this.....

I see this more often with category of around less than 1T pay load. Anything which is around 1.5T and above are better. Also I dont think Dost is actually crawling.

[paragsachania]

Also I dont think Dost is actually crawling.

Seen them doing 100 KMPH consistently on many occasions on straight lines and yes this is perhaps the fastest of most of these LCVs!

Else, it is always crawling on that fast lane climbing that flyover.

[Leoshashi]

Pics of LCV and its brochure. Understandably, its in regional language, rather than English.









Courtesy-My friend, who is in Amritsar right now.

Regards,
Shashi

[Leoshashi]

Maruti Suzuki's Super carry commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5W3sis_Lao

[extreme_torque]

Does anyone else know why commercial vehicles such as this one are so expensive relatively speaking. For 4 lakhs this gives you a basic chassis, a steering wheel, a 2 cylinder engine and 4 tyres while the same amount can get you a decent hatch which I am sure not only has more feature but is more powerful and better built as well. So again, why are commercial vehicles like this are so expensive? The same question also goes for Tata Ace.

[SAE40 in veins]

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

Does anyone else know why commercial vehicles such as this one are so expensive relatively speaking. For 4 lakhs this gives you a basic chassis, a steering wheel, a 2 cylinder engine and 4 tyres while the same amount can get you a decent hatch which I am sure not only has more feature but is more powerful and better built as well. So again, why are commercial vehicles like this are so expensive? The same question also goes for Tata Ace.

Commercial vehicles are subjected to extreme abuse, so much so that the same may start developing problems within months of purchase. Now the manufacturers keep on continuously improving the products with better and heavy duty aggregates which are actually much more expensive compared to the passenger cars. Most of these CVs are rear wheel drive which adds to the cost of the driveline. Last but not least, warranty provisioning which is on the higher side compared to PVs. Agreed that the CV manufacturers might be netting decent profits but at the same time, the amount of abuse testing and over designing they have to do incurs cost.

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

Does anyone else know why commercial vehicles such as this one are so expensive relatively speaking. For 4 lakhs this gives you a basic chassis, a steering wheel, a 2 cylinder engine and 4 tyres while the same amount can get you a decent hatch which I am sure not only has more feature but is more powerful and better built as well. So again, why are commercial vehicles like this are so expensive? The same question also goes for Tata Ace.

Carry even half the recommended load of ACE is a hatch and give it to a driver who is driving a commercial vehicle and use it for 6 months. Then we will know difference.

Also Volume plays a bigger role. While a Passenger Car TIV is over 1.5 million, a Commercial Vehicle TIV is around 3 lks.

[Rahul Rao]

Originally Posted by paragsachania

Very true indeed. As if Tata Aces and AshLey Dosts were no enough, now this.

AL Dost with its 58BHP Nissan diesel engine can easily over rev to 100 with close to 2 Tons load against its payload of 1250 kg. It is undergeared such that it redlines at 90. I have seen refregerated vans climbing the ghat with main engine driven units at 60+. Tata Super ace again with a 70Ps turbocharged 3 pot runs decently. It is the older Ace, the Force Trump, Piaggio Truk and other 3 wheel LCV's with single and two cylinder engines that clog the roads.
Gross weight in larger LCV's is usually underquoted to give operator satisfaction of overloading. Nissan equivalent of Dost has 3.25 Tr gross elsewhere against 2.5 Tr from Leyland. 3 axle trucks sold as 16 Tr here are exported with 18.5 Tr capacity, wile 3 Axle ones labled as 25 Tr gross become 28 Tr for exports.

Rahul

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by Leoshashi

Maruti Suzuki's Super carry commercial

Any idea why the launch has been restricted only to a few cities. Maruti, with the goodwill it carries in small towns and hinterland, can easily penetrate the market. Are they apprehensive of encroaching into the Omni Cargo space?

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by dailydriver

Any idea why the launch has been restricted only to a few cities. Maruti, with the goodwill it carries in small towns and hinterland, can easily penetrate the market. Are they apprehensive of encroaching into the Omni Cargo space?

Many reasons, some of which are

1. Their separate commercial dealerships aren't ready yet in all the cities.

2. This is also their pilot project, to gauge the acceptability of their product.


My gut feeling tells me that they'll shift the Omni and Eeco to commercial dealerships, and label them as commercial vehicles, to escape the BVNCAP norms for passenger vehicles.

Regards,
Shashi

[Leoshashi]

Maruti is soon going to launch the Super Carry across India, and service training is over.

They have also launched the Owners Manual in multiple languages:

English & Hindi PDF

English & Assamese PDF

English & Oriya

English & Marathi

English & Kannada

English & Telugu

English & Malyalam

English & Punjabi

English & Gujarati

English & Bengali

English & Tamil

Regards,
Shashi

[eko]

I have seen the Omni pick up on display in '83. It was petrol driven. It took so many years for Maruti to enter the commercial market. It is a big loss to the sector.

[prasadee]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Another vehicle added to the list of slow moving overloaded vehicles on highways, flyovers and busy roads. A way to increase chaos.

Overloading is the key issue here. And that can be an issue with a big Tata truck as well. Hopefully these 4 wheelers will drive the Cargo Autos out of the streets. They are slow, & unsafe - especially when overloaded.