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Originally Posted by chandrda Is that all?? what about Tejas, Rafale, Rudra, T50 etc. I know they have not entered the service but would love to know about them |
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Originally Posted by speedguy However, would like to know more about Tejas, as it is matter of pride to have a Made in India combat aircraft. |
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Originally Posted by peterjim13 I think next in line should be our training aircrafts, helicopters and of course transport and support. |
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Originally Posted by 9thsphinx Great buildup now where's the rest of the story?! |
Will update this thread later about Tejas, Rafale and PAK FA (T-50) later. Sukhoi stealth fighter is still under development though. And I will create a separate thread for other types of airplanes/helicopters.
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Originally Posted by Enobarbus I had the honour to be the last man posted out from the operating strength of a medium haul transport aircraft when the fleet was grounded for good. I was involved in the scrapping process of all spares and equipment belonging to that aircraft. Shockingly, a large number of components that were termed unavailable during the flying days of the aircraft were actually available in the warehouses. Things were that bad. |
wow? No software for inventory management or supply chain management?
By the way, why doesn't IAF keep a large inventory of frequently used components for each type of aircraft? Would it be too expensive?
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Originally Posted by Tanmay K A thought occurred to me. If there are just 800 fighter jets in the country, most of the (lakhs of) kids dreaming of flying fighter jets for the country are going to be pretty disappointed. I may be wrong about how it works in the IAF, but I'm guessing the competition within the force to get to fly a Sukhoi must be super tough! |
IAF is apparently facing a shortage of pilots. Also, I think the number of pilots needs to be higher than number of aircraft.
Even among Sukhoi pilots, I wonder if they crib about who gets to sit in the front (pilot) and who gets to sit at the back (weapons control)
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Originally Posted by DragonHawk This seems to be incorrect, Jaguar is not a Variable Geometry ground attack aircraft or generally known as sweep wing aircraft. |
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Originally Posted by Foxbat As pointed out by DragonHawk the Jaguar is a fixed wing aircraft not a Swing Wing Aircraft. |
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Originally Posted by directinjection I'm afraid that's not correct. Jaguar is a fixed wing aircraft. MiG 23/27 has been the only swing wing aircraft in IAF service. |
Will edit the post, thanks!
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Originally Posted by centaur While I understand each of these has their own +ves and -ves but on the whole, would you know which one can be considered the best with optimum trade offs between different capabilities and offering a wholesome pack? |
IAF is probably the only air force to have three different categories of fighter aircraft.
Light Weight Category (Tejas)
* Lowest cost ($40 million)
* Made in India (no issues with spare parts etc)
* No need to seek permission from foreign companies for adding features or building XX numbers
* Low combat range & weapons payload means it is likely to used mostly for air defense (of cities, air bases etc) and close air support
Heavy Weight Category (Su-30MKI):
* $60 to $80 million per aircraft
* Russian aircraft (buys influence from global power, excellent air-to-air capability)
* High on maintenance & running costs
* Our friendly neighbor on the West has an habit of carrying out pre-emptive strikes on airfields (1965 and 1971). Large combat range means these aircraft can fly from their base in the heart of India, and engage hostile aircraft.
Middle Weight Category (Rafale & possibly F16/Gripen)
* Very expensive ($80 to $120 million)
* Western aircraft, high on technology
* Low on maintenance & running costs
* Can buy global influence if UK/France/USA aircraft is bought
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Originally Posted by nevinfrancis actually, there are two versions of MICA missile - the MICA-RF: Active radar homing and the MICA-IR: Infrared homing. Both infra red and active radar homing are two different versions and one single missile cannot incorporate both these homing heads (it would be a sensory nightmare). |
Right! I will edit the post. I think it is a single missile, but two seekers are offered. Based on the mission, infra-red or radar homing can be chosen. "Interoperable Seekers" is the phrase used in the documentation.
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Originally Posted by Foxbat Also the IAF has 51 (out of the 59 originally ordered) Mirage 2000s, its mentioned 40 in one of the graphs. |
Out of the 50 Mirage 2000s we have, 10 are two seaters. FlightGlobal.com is classifying them as trainers. I guess they can be used in combat too.
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Looking at the number of F-16s lost per year is a highly misleading figure.
Usually the number of planes lost per hours of flight is considered. This takes into account number of aircraft and also extent of usage. |
Aircraft lost per 10,000 flying hours for each aircraft in IAF after Year 2005 will give us a good idea about reliability of aircraft from different countries. I will try to dig it up.
The reason why "Year 2005" and beyond is important because Russian defense industry was in a terrible state between 1990 and 2005 (after the breakup of USSR). Putin and high oil prices brought back Russian defence industry from the brink.
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Originally Posted by 2W-4W So currently only SU-30 is capable to carry BRHAMOS in IAF? |
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Originally Posted by DragonHawk . I believe there would have been a technical limitation with respect to downsizing the ramjet engine which powers Brahmos, this might have led to keeping the size of missile unchanged like its ship launched elder cousin. |
Air launched Brahmos like 500 kgs lighter, most likely because it doesn't need to carry as much fuel as land/sea based Brahmos. Unlike these, Su 30 MKI Brahmos is already in air and probably doing supersonic speeds at launch.
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Originally Posted by Foxbat Don't know what you mean by 'Dirty Bomb' or read about it. The USAF definitely doesn't have one nor do I think any military of the world. |
USAF doesn't have a dirty bomb, but it has the daddy of all bombs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43...ance_Air_Blast
Weighs 8 tonnes.
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Originally Posted by SPARKled Excellent compilation. Just 1 correction, the 144 number of ordered for PAKFA/FGFA/T-50 are not confirmed yet and this is just a projection from what I have read on various forums and resources. This may or may not materialize depending on how the Russians progress with India's demands of an MKIsed PAKFA under development currently. |
Latest update:
http://thediplomat.com/2016/09/india...hter-aircraft/