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Old 19th March 2019, 00:19   #106
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To best of my knowledge these are the domestic legs of a longer international flight with the first and last sector within India so that passengers at a smaller station can benefit from a direct (though not non-stop) international route. These flights therefore try and attract domestic only passengers to augment revenues a bit. Some times these first and last legs are at odd hours. I do not know about the cabin service as I've never flown on these Air India flights. A small correction - I was from the industry. Now I am a grey eagle.
For what it's worth, when I used to take the AI flight from Heathrow to Calcutta, more often than not I would end up getting a Dreamliner for the short domestic leg too. This was on the CCU-DEL-LHR leg. From what I recall, the plane for the LHR-DEL leg would then go on to make a final stop at Amritsar. As far as service goes I've always found the AI Dreamliners to be a pleasant experience. The cabin is light and airy, the svelte overhead bins help give the impression of lots of headroom and between the large windows and the multicolour accent lights it's quite nice to be in. I can't speak to it being the quietest cabin, though I know that it's definitely a damn sight quieter than the rumbly big twin 777s I mostly tend to get on long haul jaunts.

I had no idea they ever used a Jumbo within India. I did get lucky in finally getting to board a Jumbo last year on a Vegas Manchester flight on Virgin. In my excitement though I didn't think much of how decidedly old and decrepit the interiors were. Also it was mega noisy. But little matter, finally got that ride ticked off.

I've flown Jet's big A330 on a MAN-BOM route once IIRC. I'm not a fan of Jet. The cabins are dated and the in flight entertainment consoles on my last 3 flights with them have been dire, dated and defunct. I think given the choice I'll happily go with Air India instead, it might not have the most whizz bang cabins but they're alright, having things I consider necessary, like a functioning USB port.

Coming back to the A380. Another interesting factor that gets brought up wrt it's demise is the fact that there are many 2nd hand ones entering the market now through charter companies. I got to fly on one of those charter A380s once! (can't seem to remember where from - and who with originally - but I checked the tail number and it was this very one)
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Old 19th March 2019, 10:18   #107
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I wonder why airline companies in India don't consider smaller firms like Embraer and Bombardier.
Saw 2 EMB-145 planes of Star air parked at Bangalore airport on sunday morning. They currently offer flights from Bangalore to Hubli, Belgaum and Tirupati. Soon launching flights to Ahmadabad and Delhi (Hindon) as well.

Spicejet uses Bombardier planes as well

So the trend of using the Embraer or Bombardier has already started especially to locations which are now getting connected under the UDAN scheme.

The below link has the fleet used by various airlines in India: http://www.knowindia.net/aviation7.html

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I recently flew economy on the big bird to San Francisco. This was the first time for me on the A380 and I was really looking forward to it, but the whole experience was slightly underwhelming to be very honest.

Some pointers from a layman perspective given below - both good and bad that I felt.

1) The flight was almost full and there was a long queue for both getting in and out. Queues get extremely long especially at US emigration. This will be a problem for only economy eventhough there are many gates and it is bad.

2) The NVH is amazing even at full pelt. Brilliant plane to sleep. But the thigh support or leg room for economy is just like any other smaller plane. They have simply packed it with too many seats.

3) The full weight of the aircraft is felt during take off. I felt the plane was barely able to get off ground and climb. Was a bit hairy. There is a sense of stall or floating in mid air than the normal rush you get. It masks the speed quite well. Maybe I am used to and relish the rollercoaster take offs of the lesser aircrafts.

4) Love the real time cameras and the big screen for entertainment. And movies feel better without the constant whine of 4 jet engines.

As you can see, this pic was taken a bit after take off. Still haven't reached the cruising speed or altitude. But it was like watching the onboard cam on a F1 car. Loved it.
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5) The plane flew right over the planet - over the Artic and that was such a rush. The flight path was sort of an inverted U. I have never flown that route. Not sure if this is the peculiarity of the A380.
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So, I guess the A380 it is, if you fly first class or business. For flying economy, I wouldn't miss the big bird. I wish they had brought in a bit more differentiation for the economy class. Taking advantage of its sheer size. Like Economy plus or something with more room.

Nevertheless, it looks very elegant at the airport - and one will feel the awe of the engineering marvel the big bird is.
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Old 21st March 2019, 20:20   #109
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I recently flew ..
Just going to add a few of my points -
1- this has long been a bug bear of mine. I first became aware when flying from Heathrow once and noticing that the boarding queue stretched well into the concessions area! So yes, it means boarding takes even longer but more worryingly it means trying to clear immigration somewhere shortstaffed like Heathrow is adding insult to injury. I've often wondered why management don't add more man power when they know they have high volume flights landing. So yes, this is an infrastructure consideration one needs to keep in mind for a big one like the A380 (similarly this would apply to a big twin like the 777 for example).

2- I wonder if as a consequence of it's massive size the A380 sort of damps any natural vibration and noises that happen during a flight. It certainly is much more of a cosseted experience on board NVH wise, agreed.

3&4- once landing in Manchester, after having endured being stuck in Chennai airport during the floods, of course we landed in the middle of a storm. Watching on the video feed the entire jet being blown clean off kilter right on approach was a serious code brown situation for my friends and I especially due to recent stress. In that instance having the camera view just added to our purgatory and our burning desire to be as far away from an Emirates plane as possible. But I digress, the view from the top of the tail is neat.

5- that flight path over the Arctic is actually pretty common. It ends up being much shorter. I think our surprise stems from the fact we are so used to traditional 2D mercator projection maps that we forget we live on an oblate spheroid. Pretty sure a lot of the current mega duration direct flights go over the Arctic circle. (This video might help) -
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