[RM Motorsports]

HondaJet sales to expand to India

Honda Aircraft Company enters Indian business aviation market; Arrow Aircraft Sales and Charters appointed authorised sales representative.

https://www.autocarindia.com/industr...o-india-407692

HondaJet aircraft review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSiY2pxiCo

[mints21]

Honda Aircraft Company has demonstrated and showcased this particular aircraft to a select few customers in September 2017.

I had a chance of taking a 45 minutes ride on this four seater plane at New Delhi.

[V.Narayan]

What is unique about this event is that the Honda Jet is the first time a non-aviation company is launching a business jet. It is also the first time, since 2000, that a company with no past record in business jets is launching into this competitive and frighteningly volatile market. That last event in year 2000 was the launch of the Embraer Legacy 600 which was that company's debut into the business jet world. There are not many builders and designers of business aircraft around the globe - Gulfstream, Bombardier, Dassault, Embraer, Cessna, Beechcraft. So a new player entering is an unusual event. I cannot say if the machine will be a success or not as the small jet/turbo prop segment is a crowded one. I wish Honda and their India reps all good wishes.

[i74js]

Honda may succeed in developing economies where several C Suite members would want to make use of air strips in far flung regions to reach their manufacturing sites / plants which is not possible as of now / is not cost effective with the present lineup of business jets offered in India.

Pricing and range is something that drives investment decision and engines used in Honda Jet are co-developed with market leaders. The only thing that may go against Honda is "being the newest player"; but Honda as a brand is well respected and after the initial few sales, I think the "word of mouth" may play favorably for them as the CXO community is fairly well connected in every country.

[JediKnight]

In 2017 HondaJet was the world's largest selling aircraft of its type: Light business Jet. So it is already a well established and successful product. Honda aviation plan to double their sales in 2018.

[Aditya]

Mod Note : HondaJet now on sale in India - posts moved to a new thread.

[akshaymahajan]

How much one of these would retail in India for? Just curious.

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by akshaymahajan

How much one of these would retail in India for? Just curious.

Given the low duties on planes, I won't be surprised if this is more affordable than a Maybach Perhaps Mr. Narayan or mints21 may have an answer. I am equally eager to know

Edit - Just googled- its list price is about 4,5 Million $ but usually these are heavily discounted or at least I understand that way.

[mints21]

Hi,

I have been given to understand that it is priced in India for around 5,5 Million$.

Although, discounts cant be ruled out.

Attached is the brochure that was sent to us after the ride.

[blackwasp]

Honda Aircraft Company today revealed a new, upgraded aircraft, the "HondaJet Elite," at a special hangar event ahead of the 2018 European Business Aviation Convention and Exhibition (EBACE) in Geneva, Switzerland.

Looks like the range has also gone up by 17% (+396km) and Honda has added some noise reduction inlets for the engine.

What caught my attention is this from the feature list -

New Interior Equipment Options:
Belted Lavatory
Galley with Coffee Brewer
Two-toned Executive Leather Seats

Does this mean you have to wear the seatbelts when you do you business?

Press Release

[RM Motorsports]

HondaJet Elite is Honda's Newest Light Jet

Honda Aircraft unveiled a new version of its light jet at EBACE 2018, the HondaJet Elite. More than just a cosmetic upgrade, the Elite expands the light jet’s performance envelope while adding interior improvements and significant updates to the Garmin G3000-based flight deck.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...west-light-jet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vVbGln43t0

[RM Motorsports]

The HondaJet is the Most Delivered Aircraft in its Class for Second Consecutive Year.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300799077.html

[V.Narayan]

Originally Posted by RM Motorsports

The HondaJet is the Most Delivered Aircraft in its Class for Second Consecutive Year.

would you know which are the other business aircraft's included in this class against which GAMA/Honda say the Hondajet is the best seller? Thanks.

[Joxster]

Originally Posted by V.Narayan

would you know which are the other business aircraft's included in this class against which GAMA/Honda say the Hondajet is the best seller? Thanks.

A quick search on google led me to a very interesting article/guide on the HondaJet, which had the answer to your question, and some other interesting data. Below is a screenshot of the competition for the HondaJet, which fits into the Very Light Jet category.

I have also pasted an excerpt from the article about the orders, deliveries and sales for this aircraft below, but would suggest going through the full article as well.

Fleet

As of 1 November 2017, Honda has built 85 HondaJets. Of these, the largest concentration is in North America, where 78 aircraft, some 91%, operate. Outside North America, four aircraft operate in South America, with a further three operating in Western Europe.
Unusually for an aircraft type, as soon as the production process is begun, the aircraft is placed into trust with Wells Fargo Bank Northwest. A search on the US Civil Aircraft Register online shows a number of these aircraft, thereby artificially inflating the current number of aircraft in service. Caution is therefore needed, when trying to extrapolate the current number in service, to not include these.
While the AMSTAT database, and no doubt others as well, shows that there are 85 aircraft in service, at least 20 of these are attributed to Wells Fargo, but are currently being built.
Honda’s strategy has been to slowly build up its sales presence around the world, as and when it decides that the market will justify it. Recently the company announced a partnership with a Honda car dealer in China, which will cover sales in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macao and the mainland.

Orders

As with all business jet manufacturers, Honda does not release details of order activity, unless it is a large fleet order or it is of particular significance.
In May 2017, it did release details of a fleet order from a new European operator based on the Isle of Man, although, rather than releasing the number of aircraft ordered, Honda chose to just say “multiple orders”.
Several other one-off orders are known, including aircraft destined for Thailand, Argentina and Germany. In 2016, Michimasa Fujino, the head of the company, stated that approximately 20% of all orders were from customers in Europe.

Deliveries

The HondaJet overtook the Embraer Phenom 300 in the first half of 2017 as the most delivered aircraft type. Overall, Honda delivered 24 aircraft, one more than the 23 Phenom 300s delivered. Fujino said that he was aiming to keep this title as long as possible. Delivery guidance for the year has been unavailable, however traditionally more aircraft are delivered in the last half of the year versus the first half, as manufacturers rush to close off their year accounts.
As expected, the largest share of deliveries has been to customers in North America, where the 20 aircraft delivered made up 80% of all deliveries. France, Germany and Italy all took delivery of one aircraft each, while the two aircraft delivered into Mexico made it the country with the highest number of deliveries.
Future deliveries that we are aware of include the first aircraft destined for a customer in Thailand. Fujino said in an interview in November 2017 that he sees great potential for the HondaJet in southeast Asia, specifically mentioning Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines.
Currently the company manages its Asia sales processes through its North American headquarters. However, as noted above, a sales office will soon be established in mainland China.

Source

Cheers

[V.Narayan]

Originally Posted by Joxster

A quick search on google led me to a very interesting article/guide on the HondaJet, which had the answer to your question, and some other interesting data. Below is a screenshot of the competition for the HondaJet, which fits into the Very Light Jet category.

Thank you for sharing this data. Honda are the first new OEM to get into the volatile and tricky market of making business jets - an exotic, glamorous but difficult industry. Business aircraft OEMs have a 'flexible' way of defining what is a sale and what is their category or class with which to compare. This is an overcrowded market with two OEMs too many - Gulfstream, Bombardier, Beechcraft, Cessna, Dassault, Embraer and now Honda - not counting the corporate jet products of Boeing and Airbus as those are in the stratosphere category for Saudi princes and heads of state. Hawker wound up and disappeared into the belly of Textron. I suspect one more will go in the next 4 to 6 years.