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Old 6th December 2018, 13:26   #1
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Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

Hope this is not for private vehicles.

http://www.autocarpro.in/news-nation...-1--2019-41494

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The Ministry of Road Transport and Highways (MoRTH) has intimidated that all transport vehicles in the M1 category will have to 'Child Lock' feature disabled with effect from July 1, 2019.

In the notification, MoRTH said, "lt has been brought to notice that "Child Locks"' which when activated locks the doors of the car and may be misused by criminals in case of taxis especially when used by women passengers."

The mandate comes after almost a year of discussion with vehicle and equipment manufacturers to look into the misuse of the feature and ensure women safety in the vehicles. In 2017, a woman passenger was harassed by a cab driver in Bangalore, when he allegedly used the feature to lock the passenger in the cab.

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re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

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The notification clearly states this a feature which should be disabled in taxis and such vehicles. It is not about removing the feature of a child lock from all cars. I would be all in favour.

In Mexico in the 1960s to ~2000 taxis used to be the VW Beetle with the pax often cramped up in the rear seat. This inability to let the pax exit immediately at his/her own volition became the centre of many a crime, high even by Mexico's standards. The Govt ultimately had to bring in a law forbidding two-door taxis and insisting the rear seated pax could exit at his/her initiative.
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re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles



As far as I read on Google, M1 is less than or equal to 8 seater vehicles and not necessary only commercial ones, so I think this will apply to private vehicles too. This is the one feature in my car which I have taken for granted as it helps to know that children cant open the door, especially when seated alone.

Just like removing the sun films, I dont think this has any logic. What next? Have auto lock disabled?
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re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

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The notification clearly states this a feature which should be disabled in taxis and such vehicles.
The question is how. Not all 'taxi' are a 'tour' versions (Toyota, Tata, Ford, Mahindra). The child lock is a mechanical switch, not an electronic addition like say the speed alarm.

Also I'd presume this only applies to new vehicles, not to the innumerable yellow boards that on road already.
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re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

The wiki page here mentions three categories of LMVs:
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Hopefully, this is applicable only to LMV-TR. Even then, it's such an idiotic decision.

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re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

I support the decision and I guess its only for Taxis etc. Children would not be un-attended in a Taxi and this is welcome move. Its not difficult to disable the switch. Might just be done at the service centre.
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re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

The title "Govt. proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated from July 2019" is misleading. In a forum like this there are quite a few who read the title and will post about it being disabled in all vehicles.
This looks to be only for commercial vehicles and not private vehicles.
I hope we stick to discussing the actual decision and not suppositions and assumptions.
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Re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

If this directive is taxi specific, its fine. It should be applied religiously in OLA/Ubers kind of vehicles. However, school vehicles like yellow Mahindra Voyager, MS Ecco, Force Trax Toofan etc. should have child-lock.

Child lock and window lock is very helpful when you have an over-active kid(s) who regularly travels alone in your car.

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Mod Note: Thread title edited to reflect that it's for commercial vehicles only.

I'm all for this move. No child is going to be travelling alone in a taxi anyway.
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I'm all for this move. No child is going to be travelling alone in a taxi anyway.
I know a taxi driver who is using his taxi (Honda BRV) to pick and drop school going kids in the morning and afternoon. In these times of increased safety concerns, every parent would prefer a car (taxi) than an auto for their school going kids if available. Are you people still supporting this move?

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I know a taxi driver who is using his taxi (Honda BRV) to pick and drop school going kids in the morning and afternoon.

Is a Taxi allowed to ferry school children in the first place? If yes, then what you state,makes sense and if not, then he shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
Ferrying school kids is a very specialised job. It should be highly regulated,as those kids are very prone to molestation and abuse.
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I'm all for this move. No child is going to be travelling alone in a taxi anyway.
Here in Bangalore, in my part of it and among my son's peer group, it is quite common. In his football coaching centre many of the kids arrive in Uber/Ola routinely. This is the 9-14 age group, both boys and girls. I had asked some of the parents doing this; their response mostly is along the lines that it is best to trust a transactional Uber trip than appointing a driver who if has bad intentions, then has ample time to observe, plan and execute.

Edit: In my car child lock on is the norm. Even if I have children and adults or only adults in the rear seat. I think it only takes a momentary lapse to trigger a door open. I'm fine with the pain of opening the door myself (though my son manages to exit through the window or open while sitting inside).

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Is a Taxi allowed to ferry school children in the first place? If yes, then what you state,makes sense and if not, then he shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
Ferrying school kids is a very specialised job. It should be highly regulated,as those kids are very prone to molestation and abuse.
It is indeed a specialized job, please see a sample pic below taken from Internet.

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Re: Govt proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated in taxis & commercial vehicles

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Mod Note: Thread title edited to reflect that it's for commercial vehicles only.
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The title "Govt. proposes 'child lock' system to be deactivated from July 2019" is misleading.
Thanks for pointing out and moving the thread accordingly.

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Is a Taxi allowed to ferry school children in the first place?
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I know a taxi driver who is using his taxi (Honda BRV) to pick and drop school going kids in the morning and afternoon.
The kindergarten where my kids go had a private registered Tata Magic type small van and this year they changed it to an old yellow board Rhino as the Transport Authorities denied ferrying group of children in a private vehicle.
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Are you people still supporting this move?
Yes, One of the major reasons I chose my daughter's school even though it was further away from home (11 km), was that they had a school owned and operated transportation and pickup-drop is door to door. Its the same reason, we put our son in the same school.

I would never entrust my daughter or son with a private transport.

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Ferrying school kids is a very specialised job. It should be highly regulated
Amen to that!
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