Team-BHP - Cars & 4x4s of the Indian Defence Forces

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Originally Posted by ChiragM (Post 5035902)

Nissan 1 ton
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The Nissan 4W73, aka 1 Ton, was used by the Indian military. It is said to have been based on the Dodge M37 Weapons Carrier.

This example seems to be currently owned by M. S. Dhoni.

Thnaks for th interesting thread!

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Originally Posted by ChiragM (Post 5035902)

Toyota Fortuner
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The Indo-Tibetan Border Police uses the Fortuner in the Ladakh region. It was inducted into the force in 2016.

I suppose this goes into the frontlines. No camo paint for this? Or is this the winter dressing?

Kudos and many thanx for this post @ChiragM. Nothing triggers excitement as much as the army vehicles. Quite a range, I could not resist writing my opinion: Most of the Indian models are so ugly in form. I prefer and drool over function over form and nuts over boxy to odd cuts and shapes (read Russian) designs, but the Indian ones are repulsive. I wonder who prevented the designers from giving it a decent boxy metal skin at the least. The Mahindra Armored Light Specialist Vehicle and Mahindra Marksman, goodness, they were eye peeling. The Kalyani M4 and Strome are on the other side so pleasing.

You have left out one Car i.e. Ford Endeavor which was introduced with Fortuner in the same year 2016. I have seen it in Hanle in 2018 used by the ITBP. In that year Indian Army had ordered 400 Fortuner's and 500 Endeavor's to be used in High Altitude areas of the Indian Border

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Originally Posted by arjithin (Post 5037970)

Wonder why this vehicle comes with a civilian number plate?

1. Coz it was not procured by army. The vehicles in army are procured through a different procedure where after orders are placed to the manufacturer, the vehicles are recieved by vehicle depots which further issues them. In addition, procedure to repair and demand necessary spares is also instituted through a set mechanism of army workshops. Post reciept of vehicle at depot and before issuance to user, Vehicle registration No also called BA(Broad Arrow) is issued. You will be able to gain more on this elsewhere in teambhp threads. The inventory management is centralised for all military vehicles and are updated on regular basis.
2. This system ensures military registration, maintainence and demand of fuel. Civilian vehicles with normal registration will neither be maintained, nor will be able to draw fuel.
3. Finally, those vehicles in pic are used by ITBP which is a paramilitary force and can procure vehicles on need basis, thus does not display a military number plate.

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Originally Posted by arjithin (Post 5037970)

Wonder why this vehicle comes with a civilian number plate?

Only the Tri-services & Coast Guard also I believe (all of which are under Defence Ministry) have military registrations. All others like ITBP, BSF, CRPF, SSB, CISF which are paramilitary and are under Home Ministry use civilian registrations.

What about SakthiMan truck? I know it's not a car or 4x4; but I've fond memories of going to school from Army camp in those trucks! My dad had a personal JONGA while in service and I still have it's user manual and mechanical drawings

If we think about previous year’s 4x4 army lorry, Shaktiman needs a mention.
And for current era 6x6 lorry, Ashok Leyland Super Stallion seems to be a very capable one with 6 wheel drive along with differential lock for all the axles and 6 cylinder engine producing 360 bhp!
Attaching photos of both the above mentioned.

This thread brings back some old memories - waiting for the school truck at 6.30 AM in the morning, the modified 3-ton with an always-on AC and an always-open sunroof. :uncontrol

We missed this one by Tata. I think it was called a '4-ton' colloquially. :)

Cars & 4x4s of the Indian Defence Forces-tatalpta1615tc.jpg

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On a related topic, many years ago I went from Mathura to Delhi on a Stallion (the old one); the ride was bumpy and it was miserably hot inside the cabin. I felt bad for the drivers who had to drive these trucks every day - it must be very uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque (Post 5037960)

Are you sure about this? It would mean 260 bhp and 800nm of torque and from a 2.2 diesel no less!

I would be surprised if it makes as much power as the civilian Safari given the use case and priorities are entirely different.

Tata shared these figures in a press release in 2018.

Cars & 4x4s of the Indian Defence Forces-safari-gs800.png

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Originally Posted by anjan_c2007 (Post 5036785)

In the post Independence era, the Indian defence forces continued to use the Chevrolet CMP 15 (Canadian Military Pattern) of the early 1940's WW II vintage. Ford of Canada too due to the World War II emergency, manufactured very similar trucks for the British Commonwealth of nations. A longer chassis and a crane variant were also in vogue. The Chevrolet had a 3.5 L and the Ford had a 3.9 L engine respectively. These totally dominated the 4 X 4 fleets with the Ford and Willys GPW, WW II jeeps and the Dodge Power Wagon.

What a timing of the thread, my distant family owns Chevrolet CMP 15 and this is been with them since 1970's. I have seen this truck all my childhood and lots of memories. In recent past truck was not in working condition. Just yesterday I saw a post from uncle the Chevy is rebuilt and up and running.

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Originally Posted by ChiragM (Post 5038753)

Tata shared these figures in a press release in 2018.

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Well where does it says it is in comparison with the civilian variant of the Safari? If I were to hazard a guess, I would say they are comparing it with the figures from the army version of the Sumo 4x4 in which case it reads true

Would suggest a small change in the thread title - it is a bit misleading at present.

You might want to change it to say something like "armed forces & paramilitary forces" instead of "Indian Army".

Armed forces would mean the Army, Navy & Airforce.
Paramilitary forces which would include the BSF, CRPF, ITBP etc etc