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Old 17th April 2021, 09:35   #1
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Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

Ashok Leyland has delivered the first of its kind “Light Bullet Proof Vehicles” (LBPV) to the Indian Air force. The first lot of these vehicles were delivered on April 13, 2021.

The LBPV is an adopted version of Lockheed Martin’s (LM) Common Vehicle Next Gen (CVNG) and has been developed under Transfer of Technology (ToT) from LM to Ashok Leyland. It is completely indigenized and developed in India.

The LBPV has high off-road mobility in mud, sand, rocks, and shallow water. It has a high payload fraction, accommodating a crew of 6 and ample cargo space to carry substantial mission equipment. The vehicle is well protected from both ballistic & blast threats and can launch attacks.

Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force-all-light-bullet-proof-vehicles-april-2021.jpg

Ashok Leyland claims that the vehicle has very good ride quality and low occupant-absorbed power, which allows the crew to endure driving long distances off-road and still be an effective fighting / workforce at the end of the trip.

Ashok Leyland’s mobility solutions range from 4x4 to 12x12 for defence personnel and logistics. The company’s relationship with Lockheed Martin started in 2014 with the CVNG Program. Under ToT, it hopes to develop many more products for India and the export market.

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Looks very solid, rugged and Ashok Leyland is definitely very reliable too.

But only confusion is, is the side posed to camera , back side or front side?

From the first look, I thought it's rear side. But, looking at the doors, hinges position and side view mirror placement position, it appears like the front portion is posed to camera.

So, I could not finally decide

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re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

One question, why does it need front guard? Black pipe bumper guard sorta thing in the front?
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Ashok Leyland has delivered the first of its kind “Light Bullet Proof Vehicles” (LBPV) to the Indian Air force. The first lot of these vehicles were delivered on April 13, 2021.
I am guessing AL already provides a lot of trucks and other mobility solutions for the armed forces so this is a good addition to their portfolio under ToT. What surprised me was that this consignment is for Air Force and not for Army. Not sure how Air Force plans to use it, maybe for Garud commando units?
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But only confusion is, is the side posed to camera , back side or front side?
I think it’s definitely a front pose.
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re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

Sorry, but it is a noob question.
Why will Air force need Armored vehicles? Airforce can fly to where ever.

Army will need it right?

Also since the word light and air force are in the same place, it it made of kevlar and aluminum so as to be flown in cargo aircrafts.
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Sorry, but it is a noob question.
Why will Air force need Armored vehicles? Airforce can fly to where ever.

Army will need it right?

Also since the word light and air force are in the same place, it it made of kevlar and aluminum so as to be flown in cargo aircrafts.
The Air Force can't take an aircraft everywhere as there are several geographical limitations and need of specific runways. Also, one might argue that choppers can be used but that would not be a cost-effective option for cargo and won't provide security to the personals on ground. This LBPVs can be used to set up and supply goods to forward bases and by the garuds too.

After the Pathankot attacks, these things have become all the more important. The army too has various armoured vehicles for several use-cases.
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Sorry, but it is a noob question.
Why will Air force need Armored vehicles?
I guess the armoured vehicles are intended to be used by IAF to meet their base location security or other operational requirements.
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I would reckon these vehicles will have the first responders in the event of a attack by ground forces or terrorists at an IAF airfield.

A typical IAF base is chock-a-block full of very expensive air and ground assets. These are vulnerable to sneak attacks by terrorists or even enemy ground forces.

Hence the need, which was perhaps a lesson learnt from the attack at Pathankot airbase. Till now, they were using makeshift arrangements like having an LMG (Light Machine Gun) mounted on a pick-up (Tata Xenon for instance) with improvised protection.

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Looks very solid, rugged and Ashok Leyland is definitely very reliable too.

But only confusion is, is the side posed to camera , back side or front side?

From the first look, I thought it's rear side. But, looking at the doors, hinges position and side view mirror placement position, it appears like the front portion is posed to camera.

So, I could not finally decide
That is actually the front. A key USP of this vehicle is the engine being mounted such that it is protected from small arms fire which can achieve a 'mobility kill'. Also it has a smaller turning radius due to wheels being at the front corner (somewhat like a nano)...

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One question, why does it need front guard? Black pipe bumper guard sorta thing in the front?
Break through minor obstacles without damaging the main 'armour'.

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Sorry, but it is a noob question.
Why will Air force need Armored vehicles? Airforce can fly to where ever.

Army will need it right?

Also since the word light and air force are in the same place, it it made of kevlar and aluminum so as to be flown in cargo aircrafts.
While these are primarily procured for base security - they can easily be flown by our fleet of Mi8/17's (inside the bay) if required during emergencies.

The word 'Light' in this is used by vehicle category type. Typically armoured upto STANAG II (Ballistic/ Blast) level meaning it is resistant to small arms fire (7.62 Armour Piercing/Incindery) and grenades. the 7.62 is the AK47 bullet BTW. Light is also the payload capability.

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The Air Force can't take an aircraft everywhere as there are several geographical limitations and need of specific runways. Also, one might argue that choppers can be used but that would not be a cost-effective option for cargo and won't provide security to the personals on ground. This LBPVs can be used to set up and supply goods to forward bases and by the garuds too.

After the Pathankot attacks, these things have become all the more important. The army too has various armoured vehicles for several use-cases.
Good Observation on the need after Pathankot type attacks. The IAF BTW, has superb lift capability and capacity both in fixed wing and rotary aircraft. Incidentally this vehicle was originally designed to fit inside the C130 (Fixed wing of which we have a fleet) and Chinooks (Again we have these). Considering the weight can easily be carried by the Mi17V that we have, this can be transported to almost any corner of India.
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Re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

Yes, this vehicle will be used by security forces guarding IAF bases.

Ashok Leyland also makes "Medium" bullet proof vehicle:

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Re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

So wonderful to see Indian companies designing and/or manufacturing armoured vehicles. With the increase of non-state actors and their strategy of killing you (or trying to at least) with a thousand cuts rather than several big blows has made the need for these light and medium armoured vehicles necessary in all major countries. These vehicles are needed to guard our air bases, radar stations, SAM stations, listening posts, ammunition depots etc. They are also needed today when transporting expensive missiles or equipment by road. They need protection against light arms fire and blast & fragmentation. The armed forces have been seeking such vehicles and the ones one step heavier for at least 20+ years now. Finally they are getting what they need.
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Re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

Much needed additions. Pathankot attacks were a shocker. Having been to Airbases before and after the Pathankot attacks, the way the security measures have progressed is something amazing.

Only grouse is private security firms doing gate duty at a few institutions. It's painful to watch these pot bellied, dirty shoed, unshaved good for nothings at the gate of prestigious institutions.
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Re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

Good to see Indian manufacturers delivering such equipment. Though this is done under technology transfer, it is good for the private defense industry. Hopefully, our armed forces get the best equipment for their needs.

Experts in the forum should do a comparison of this vehicle against ones supplied to army for similar needs by I think Mahindra or Tatas.

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Only grouse is private security firms doing gate duty at a few institutions. It's painful to watch these pot bellied, dirty shoed, unshaved good for nothings at the gate of prestigious institutions.
No No No! they are not doing the security duty and I agree these private firm employees don't have the discipline level anywhere close to the armed personnel. These people are actually kept to help in gate opening regularly as these gates remained closed mostly and the guards can't be leaving their position everytime someone needs to enter/exit.

You'll also see 1-2 guard rooms at the entry of these institutions where everything is monitored and a few barracks are also there with men alert and with loaded guns and protective armour. Also, these civilians are required as the IAF doesn't have much man force like the army.

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Re: Ashok Leyland delivers Light Bullet Proof Vehicles to the Indian Air Force

Very ambitious project by AL. i guess they even can use this platform for making a civilian version of this beast. and it sure will turn to be a favorite among off roaders..

eager to know about its tech details too.
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