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Old 18th January 2025, 12:55   #1
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Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025

Big shoutout to libranof1987 for shooting these pictures & his coverage of the Bharat Mobility Global Expo. Thanks for sharing, man!

Ashok Leyland was one of the highlight stalls in the commercial vehicle space at the Bharat Mobility Global Expo. They launched the Saathi which is an entry-level light commercial vehicle. It is priced at Rs. 6,49,999 for the FSD variant:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-13.jpeg

It has a payload capacity of 1,120 kg:
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It is powered by a 1.5-litre, 3-cylinder diesel engine that makes 44 BHP and 110 Nm of torque. The engine is mated to a 5-speed manual gearbox:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-141.jpeg

Here’s a look at the spec sheet:
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They also had the Garud 15m on display:
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Front features a big windshield and an interesting grille design:
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Sliding door for the entry:
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Storage area on the sides:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-3.jpeg

The GARUD 15M is claimed to be India’s first front-engine multi-axle bus chassis. It rides on air suspension:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-32.jpeg

Massive taillamps. This is the emergency exit door at the rear:
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The driver gets two screens and an instrument cluster along with controls on the right. There’s some storage as well. Powering the Garud is a 4-cylinder diesel engine that puts out 248 BHP and 900 Nm of torque. It is mated to a 6-speed manual gearbox:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-5.jpeg

You get camera-based rear view monitors:
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In this sleeper berth layout, the bus can accommodate 42 passengers:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-6.jpeg

The passengers get individual backrests:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-7.jpeg

And some storage space as well:
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The emergency exit is towards the rear:
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Here’s a quick look at the spec sheet:
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Also on display was the Switch IeV4. This electric pickup is powered by a 32.2 kWh lithium-ion battery and has a claimed range of 130 km:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-10.jpeg

The payload capacity with the body is 1,200 kg:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-11.jpeg

Here’s the spec sheet:
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Here’s the Switch IeV8 which has a claimed range of 250 km and also gets fast charging:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-20.jpeg

A quick look at the spec sheet:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-21.jpeg

This is the e Tiran 4x2 which is a terminal tractor that is primarily used at the airport:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-18.jpeg

Here’s the spec sheet:
Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025-19.jpeg

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Old 19th January 2025, 18:19   #2
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I must say this has to be the most interesting stall of the expo, atleast from pictures. If I was physically attending the expo, I am sure I would have spent a lot of time exploring the e Tiran. Assuming visitors are allowed to have an inside out view of vehicles.
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Re: Ashok Leyland @ Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025

Agreed with saikishor, I find it funny that of all the expensive, luxury brands at the expo, this catches my eye more that those do .

The Saathi honestly looks derpy in front, but, seems to be priced good for what it's supposed to do

The Garud, 250hp, 900nm, 4cyl turbo diesel, mated to a 6spd gearbox? AND Front engine, Rear wheel drive with what is probably a midlift steerable axle (maybe? Edit: Nope, not a steerable axle), that sounds like it would be a hoot to drive.

Truly a very interesting stall

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I must say this has to be the most interesting stall of the expo, atleast from pictures. If I was physically attending the expo, I am sure I would have spent a lot of time exploring the e Tiran. Assuming visitors are allowed to have an inside out view of vehicles.
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Agreed with saikishor, I find it funny that of all the expensive, luxury brands at the expo, this catches my eye more that those do
Haha, true. I was pretty much the only person there for most of the mornings (on the media / media + dealer days); even at the busiest, there were <5 people. And honestly, I had a lot of fun checking out the CVs. And yes, you could explore the vehicles inside as well (except a couple of them that were locked, perhaps for a reveal later).

Do check the threads on Eka Mobility, SML Isuzu and Cummins.

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The Garud, 250hp, 900nm, 4cyl turbo diesel, mated to a 6spd gearbox? AND Front engine, Rear wheel drive with what is probably a midlift steerable axle (maybe? Edit: Nope, not a steerable axle), that sounds like it would be a hoot to drive.
Specifically asked, not steerable axle.

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Haha, true. I was pretty much the only person there for most of the mornings (on the media / media + dealer days); even at the busiest, there were <5 people.
Very interesting thread, I'm quite jealous as you got to spend quality time at the booth and we have to be contend with just the photos.

Slightly OT, how were the overall crowd numbers these year? Surprisingly I got so many reels/notifications of the expo in my feed this year which has never happened previously. Has the interest increased recently?
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Specifically asked, not steerable axle.
Yup, read that in the image that showed the specifications of the bus, now, if it had a Taglift steerable axle, well, rear wheel steer would be a charm :wink wink:
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Innovative, coming from an Indian company. But ask anyone in the trucking line of work, how much they hate Leyland trucks and buses. Mainly due to costly and shortage of parts.
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Interesting to see the CV love in this thread. I have never been to any AutoExpos my only experience has been with these tbhp coverage that come out every time, really wish I could be there sometime.

I am not sure who all noticed the fact that the headlamp moved down towards the front bumper while Dosth became Saathi.

The head lamps of LCVs like Dost, Ace, Intra have all been causing a lot of trouble in the night as they kind of hit right on your face - despite being on low beam. This move is something that the Dosths and Aces of the world should also marry.
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Innovative, coming from an Indian company. But ask anyone in the trucking line of work, how much they hate Leyland trucks and buses. Mainly due to costly and shortage of parts.
This reminds me of something I heard from a fleet owner, in 1992, when I started my first job at a Tata Dealership in the service department. The gentleman told me - 'Ashok Leyland ka jawani aacha hai, lekin burapa bahut bura, Tata ka jawani theek thaak hai, lekin burapa aacha' - translating to the meaning - the initial ownership of an Ashok Leyland is good, but long term, not so whereas vice versa for Tata - exactly in line what is mentioned above, surprisingly the very same sentiment after 33 years. At times I wonder, if this is true, how come the population of Ashok Leylands is higher in the southern part of the country
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The Saathi honestly looks derpy in front,....


The headlights melted and fell down when the name changed from Dost to Saathi.

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The head lamps of LCVs like Dost, Ace, Intra have all been causing a lot of trouble in the night as they kind of hit right on your face - despite being on low beam. This move is something that the Dosths and Aces of the world should also marry.
Pretty sure they are adjusting the beam throw upwards regardless of the headlight housing positioning.

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At times I wonder, if this is true, how come the population of Ashok Leylands is higher in the southern part of the country
Something to do with the fact that Ashok Leyland main plants are in Tamilnadu?

Have also read in the forum that among TATA and Ashok Leyland, one is preferred in the plains and the other is preferred in the hill/mountainous areas. Though not sure which one is. Also something about one being good for long trips, while the other good for short city rides.

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The head lamps of LCVs like Dost, Ace, Intra have all been causing a lot of trouble in the night as they kind of hit right on your face - despite being on low beam. This move is something that the Dosths and Aces of the world should also marry.
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Pretty sure they are adjusting the beam throw upwards regardless of the headlight housing positioning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
I believe it is more to do with the fact that after loading the goods, the rear suspension settles down (compresses) more compared to the front suspension, thus making the beam path less declined (more forward throw).

In personal cars, we have a rotary knob/switch where one can adjust the throw angle of headlight to take care of this very reason (of course the OEMs are being very optimistic if they feel that drivers will actually adjust the headlight to reduce the glare on oncoming vehicles!).
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Have also read in the forum that among TATA and Ashok Leyland, one is preferred in the plains and the other is preferred in the hill/mountainous areas. Though not sure which one is. Also something about one being good for long trips, while the other good for short city rides.
I've heard this a lot (I'm originally from Mangalore), Tata is preferred in hilly areas because of the torque available, and probably the gearing.

Ashok Leyland is excellent in the plains, and a very good highway cruiser.

It's the same either if it's a bus or a truck, and tbh, it's accurate even today
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
I believe it is more to do with the fact that after loading the goods, the rear suspension settles down (compresses) more compared to the front suspension, thus making the beam path less declined (more forward throw).
Could be, but most of the small CVs running around aren't exactly overladen with weight. Most take their vehicles straight from the showroom to put extra plates (rear leaves) at the rear. They pretty much stay the same level whether loaded or not.

Ofcourse overloaded ones still sag, but most of the ones which do so drive slowly and don't tend to tamper with their stock lights. unlike those express delivery guys.

BTW, not just personal cars. Every CV also has the headlight throw adjuster. I believe it was made mandatory for CVs even before personal cars.
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t times I wonder, if this is true, how come the population of Ashok Leylands is higher in the southern part of the country
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Also something about one being good for long trips, while the other good for short city rides.
Good thought. Interestingly in Kerala, the state RTC - KSRTC mostly is manned by Leylands and not TATA's especially in the category lower to deluxe and AC buses. I once remember conversing with a driver on the same and he mentioned about Leylands ability on high ranges, as well as ease of maintenance.

I am sure KSRTC would have at least 80% of the fleet handled by Leyland, though we see the new set of AC Superfasts are CBUs from Tata.

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Pretty sure they are adjusting the beam throw upwards regardless of the headlight housing positioning.
That should be the case, but especially when I request these trucks to go on low beam with my high beam flash, they would show the high beam to show that the default was low.
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This reminds me of something I heard from a fleet owner, in 1992, when I started my first job at a Tata Dealership in the service department. The gentleman told me - 'Ashok Leyland ka jawani aacha hai, lekin burapa bahut bura, Tata ka jawani theek thaak hai, lekin burapa aacha' - translating to the meaning - the initial ownership of an Ashok Leyland is good, but long term, not so whereas vice versa for Tata - exactly in line what is mentioned above, surprisingly the very same sentiment after 33 years. At times I wonder, if this is true, how come the population of Ashok Leylands is higher in the southern part of the country
My uncle, a distant relative, owned one Tata 1612 and a Leyland tipper. The tipper is still standing in front of his pond in the village. Nobody even wants it for scrap

The reason Tata is cheap is because scrap parts are easy to get. You can get it from almost any part of India.

Never mind, I realised you are from Kolkata. I spent a good 10 years there. I've seen a large number of Leylands on our highways, all TN or AP registered.

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