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Old 25th July 2018, 15:51   #106
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I was wondering if and when it would be retired and scraped by the army, would it be considered road legal if bought via auction and restored by a civilian for personal use
OT: Sorry to be a nitpicker, but the CISF (who seem to be the users of the Renault Sherpa from the tweet image above) is a CAPF, and is not a branch of the Indian Armed Forces.

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Mr Narayan, would you have some pictures of these ground vehicles we have been using, I am sure there are many Russian and British vehicles we had used - and of course we started making them on our own along with other domestic manufacturers like Tata and Mahindra.
I do not have photos but they can be pulled from the internet quite readily. To best of my knowledge we did not manufacture the Russian trucks. They were purchased as apart of the missile or radar or rocket launcher they carried. Tatra 8x8 we did make in country by BEML. Some photos from the Republic Day parade.

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Pechora Surface to air missile on a Russian 6x6

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Old truck from WW2. This was a Canadian made Chevrolet Type 15A produced to a British Army specification. British specs, American design, Canadian made, used in India. These ubiquitious small trucks were phased out circa 1968-70. Towards the latter part of their lives many were put on school bus and other utility duties in the cantonments. As a kid I went to school often trundling in one of these.
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To best of my knowledge we did not manufacture the Russian trucks. They were purchased as apart of the missile or radar or rocket launcher they carried. Tatra 8x8 we did make in country by BEML.
What I meant was we started making our own trucks through Tata, Leyland etc

Old truck from WW2. This was a Canadian made Chevrolet Type 15A produced to a British Army specification. British specs, American design, Canadian made, used in India. These ubiquitious small trucks were phased out circa 1968-70. Towards the latter part of their lives many were put on school bus and other utility duties in the cantonments. As a kid I went to school often trundling in one of these. [/quote]

Thanks for sharing, My Grandfather used to tell us stories about Ford and Chevrolet trucks while he was serving the British Indian Army in North East India.

As you said - I am trying a bit of googling and adding some pics so that - people could contribute with more info against each of them.

Found this Chevrolet again (Canadian) from Wikipedia
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Are these the same BedFord we used I can see 2 types while the one with visible bonnet are still being driven around (Source http://pazhayathu.blogspot.com)
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Another one from Tbhp - I have seen this in front of Kempegowda Bus Terminal at Bangalore
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This one from the Danish Army Archives (Source : http://www.armyvehicles.dk)
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I have seen these Bedford Trucks doing duty as firetrucks in Tanzania, Did we use them?
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What make are these ? Another image from TBHP
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So the Kraz as well.
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Time for some Shaktiman (Source - Tbhp)
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Moving to Tata (Source : Tata Motors Webpage)

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A beauty in itself - It says Tata Military Truck used by the Nepal Army
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Our Workhorse - I think this is the most widely used military truck in this category by our defense forces. The same trucks are being used by the Kenya Defense Forces, and I have seen many there in Kenya as well.

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Some Jongas - I have read that these are Nissan SUV's made in India - more insights will help.

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Not sure whether these are the images of the same Pajeros used by ITBP - but I am sure that they use some Pajeros there, along with a newly acquired set of Fortuners.
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Another newbie - beauty from Tata - not sure whether they are in service, probably from some defence expo.
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And finally the Windy - this is probably the only picture I have seen of this vehicle. Based on my limited knowledge this was an attempt by DRDO for a domestic LSV. Please contribute in adding more info.
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Spotted the Renault Sherpa Light Scout tanking up at the petrol pump opposite PMs residence .

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A 7 tonne juggernaut with 4.7 litre turbo diesel twisting 800Nm torque and 215 bhp

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More Sherpas coming:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...6.cms?from=mdr

I remember reading about multiple such vehicles being tested. Those included Tatas and Mahindras. Is that selection over? Renault Sherpas were the winners?
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I'm rather keen to hear what the folks here think about a recent announcement in the PM's speech that I found most interesting from a defence perspective:
India will get a Chief of Defence Staff (akin to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs for the US)
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pm-n...home-topscroll
It's something I've argued in favour of for a while. I really hope the creation of this position finally starts imparting something resembling cohesion to our famously patchwork defence structure (hopeful I know but oh well)

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I'm rather keen to hear what the folks here think about a recent announcement in the PM's speech that I found most interesting from a defence perspective:
India will get a Chief of Defence Staff (akin to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs for the US)........
In one way a practical move to better co-ordinate the actions and intelligence gathering of the three forces plus Coast Guard and now the burgeoning ballistic missile force. With networking, cyber warfare and cyber intelligence becoming prominent a more co-ordinated approach is needed. In addition to the reporting line of the three chiefs to the CDS they should also have their reporting lines to the Raksha Mantri kept alive.

This new position of the CDS brings into question of his role vis a vis the role of the Defence Secretary. The Defence Secretary is usually an IAS Officer when it really should be an IFS Officer as Defence is execution of your foreign policy by other means. And that is what was intended in 1947 but the vice like grip of the IAS over almost every top post in GoI at the expense of other services is infamous. As it is the Defence Secretary (most of them at least) behaves as if they and not the RM is the boss of the Chiefs and the layer of the CDS will complicate this bureaucracy further.

One more change the PM should bring in is a fixed 5-year tenure for the Chiefs. The current 3 year one is too little to bring change in such vast organizations.
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Agreed, the problem in India is the creation of a new rung in the ladder is yet more kindling to the raging bonfire that is the bureaucracy. Ah well, I'd like to think that the operational benefits would be significant enough to outweigh the pitfalls (more wistful thinking maybe..). It should be like a central switchboard from which the CDS can assign whichever service assets or combination thereof are nearest and best placed to deal with an evolving situation. Surely that would make all the services more nimble as a result. Heck it might even lead to more streamlined responses in natural disasters and surely the public can't argue against that.

I can't help but think of Sir Humphrey from the biting satirical political comedy Yes, Minister. It really is true all the tropes they have about the Secretaries and the rest of the bureaucratic class. Sigh.

Surely the model here should be for service chiefs => CDS => Defence Minister => Prime Minister

Also agreed, 3 years is far too short. By the time they'll become acclimatised with the extensive service and structures they'll soon have to plan for their succession.
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