4x4s in the Indian Army

arjunrudra · 10th December 2009, 06:16

Wow even the Army sumo looks cool. Never liked the sumo but this particular sumo makes me think twice.

n.devdath · 10th December 2009, 12:45

+1 to what Parm said, there is no technical/mechanical difference between a defence Gypsy and the one you can buy at a Maruti showroom other than the black out lights and the color.

The reason people are passionate about them is because it gives a high to know that you own an ex-army vehicle and because they can be restored and made usable after being auctioned by the army for a cost efficient price.

harjeev · 10th December 2009, 13:37

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Originally Posted by n.devdath

+1 to what Parm said, there is no technical/mechanical difference between a defence Gypsy and the one you can buy at a Maruti showroom other than the black out lights and the color.

The reason people are passionate about them is because it gives a high to know that you own an ex-army vehicle and because they can be restored and made usable after being auctioned by the army for a cost efficient price.

Second I would like to add that the satisfaction of owning a Maruti product, which comes with piece of mind!!!

n.devdath · 10th December 2009, 13:44

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Originally Posted by harjeev

Second I would like to add that the satisfaction of owning a Maruti product, which comes with piece of mind!!!

Wow, Harjeev has already become a Maruti fan.

Trust me bud, had the Gypsy been a diesel, I would have been the first in queue to buy it. It tugs at your heart strings like no other but is expensive to run, which makes poor souls like me stay away from it as an everyday vehicle.

USR · 10th December 2009, 13:47

JUST A FYI -but do you know Shaktiman can use both Petrol & Disel

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Originally Posted by Parm

im posting some photos of 4x4 vehicles used by Mighty Indian Army. hope this is not a re-post and if there is any, please merge it as i couldnt find any thread by the same name during my search.

from top to bottom:

Jonga 4x4
shaktiman 4x4
AL Stallion MK III 4x4
Super Azad 4x4
Swaraj Mazda 4x4
TATA 407 4x4
TATA 1210 SD 4x4
TATA LPTA 713 TC 4x4
TATA LPTA 1615 TC 4x4
Topchi 4x4 by AL

JUST A FYI -but do you know Shaktiman can use both Petrol & Disel

livyodream · 10th December 2009, 15:45

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Originally Posted by USR

JUST A FYI -but do you know Shaktiman can use both Petrol & Disel

huh???? u mean one can fill petrol or diesel in the same tank? Even mixture of those will work ???

Parm · 10th December 2009, 19:12

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Originally Posted by livyodream

huh???? u mean one can fill petrol or diesel in the same tank? Even mixture of those will work ???

some of my friends in the army have driven it with kerosene instead of above mentioned two fuels!

trammway · 10th December 2009, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Parm

some of my friends in the army have driven it with kerosene instead of above mentioned two fuels!

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

Petrol / Kerosene / Diesel used in the same engine ... Spark plug/Compression .. Aiyooo enlighten me please.

sreerajunnithan · 10th December 2009, 20:28

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Originally Posted by trammway

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?

Petrol / Kerosene / Diesel used in the same engine ... Spark plug/Compression .. Aiyooo enlighten me please.

lol!!! A typical Army story, i spent major part of my life in different battalions as my dad was a service man. I even heard that it can run on "Dalda" (Vanaspathi)

how about that? But i don't think all these are true.

Thanks
--Sree--

livyodream · 10th December 2009, 20:44

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

lol!!! A typical Army story, i spent major part of my life in different battalions as my dad was a service man. I even heard that it can run on "Dalda" (Vanaspathi)

how about that? But i don't think all these are true.

Thanks
--Sree--

LOL.. what sort of engine is that? and why cant it be mass produced.
If i had that vehicle then my mom would hav killed me for stealing dalda for my weekend drives

SS-Traveller · 10th December 2009, 20:57

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Originally Posted by n.devdath

One more observation. Though the vehicle is CRDe, its rear bumper is the MHawk model and not the CRDe model. Ditto the boot handle as well I feel.

A clarification - what you see there is the Scorpio Refresh body with a 2.6 CRDe engine. Even the new M2Di's come with the same style of bumper now. The mHawk is just the 2.2L engine.

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I believe MHawk does not come with 4x4 option.

You believe wrong!

Check this out!!!

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Originally Posted by USR

JUST A FYI -but do you know Shaktiman can use both Petrol & Disel

Yes...

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Originally Posted by trammway

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
Petrol / Kerosene / Diesel used in the same engine ... Spark plug/Compression .. Aiyooo enlighten me please.

These were multifuel vehicles. More info here: Multifuel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This is as opposed to flexible fuel vehicles (FFV), which are so popular in Brazil, that our Scorpios don't have any takers there (M&M is exporting to Brazil too!) - diesels in Brazil account for just 10% of the total car sales.

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

lol!!! A typical Army story, i spent major part of my life in different battalions as my dad was a service man. I even heard that it can run on "Dalda" (Vanaspathi)

how about that? But i don't think all these are true.

Running on Dalda is of course a major exaggeration (would love to see how they got the congealed stuff to flow - or did someone sit under the tank with a stove?

), but it is a fact that it could run on a mix of petrol/diesel and mustard oil too!

ajitkommini · 11th December 2009, 12:12

Most Diesel engines (at least the older ones, not sure about modern CRDi engines etc.) can be run on vegetable oil with only minor modifications right?

Parm · 22nd December 2009, 23:55

here are few more photos of indian army 4x4s on UN duty.

hey a hard top MM550 is also there!

SirAlec · 23rd December 2009, 03:07

off topic
why is the magazine not loaded??

i think these are images from congo.

BTW do they bring these vehicle back after the mission or donate them.

indianvirus · 23rd December 2009, 21:10

Diesel engine can easily be run on kerosene, my cousin owns two trucks, AL and eicher. He told me they regularly run on mixture of diesel and kerosene. He also said they have to replace fuel pump every year. But cost it is nothing compared to money saved by kerosene-diesel mixture.
I don't know effects of this on engine though. (He didn't mention that)

10th December 2009, 06:16	#91
arjunrudra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gurgaon/Chennai Posts: 1,577 Thanked: 197 Times View My Garage	Wow even the Army sumo looks cool. Never liked the sumo but this particular sumo makes me think twice.
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n.devdath BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,287 Thanked: 2,811 Times	+1 to what Parm said, there is no technical/mechanical difference between a defence Gypsy and the one you can buy at a Maruti showroom other than the black out lights and the color. The reason people are passionate about them is because it gives a high to know that you own an ex-army vehicle and because they can be restored and made usable after being auctioned by the army for a cost efficient price.
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ajitkommini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 490 Thanked: 124 Times	Most Diesel engines (at least the older ones, not sure about modern CRDi engines etc.) can be run on vegetable oil with only minor modifications right?
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22nd December 2009, 23:55	#103
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	here are few more photos of indian army 4x4s on UN duty. hey a hard top MM550 is also there! Attached Thumbnails
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SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	off topic why is the magazine not loaded?? i think these are images from congo. BTW do they bring these vehicle back after the mission or donate them.
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23rd December 2009, 21:10	#105
indianvirus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vadodara Posts: 207 Thanked: 122 Times	Diesel engine can easily be run on kerosene, my cousin owns two trucks, AL and eicher. He told me they regularly run on mixture of diesel and kerosene. He also said they have to replace fuel pump every year. But cost it is nothing compared to money saved by kerosene-diesel mixture. I don't know effects of this on engine though. (He didn't mention that)
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