What tractor should I buy?

bigman · 31st August 2009, 14:43

Reddy,

It will be used for typical farming work in Punjab/Haryana. So ploughing after paddy is cultivated, taking crops to mandi (trolley), getting fields ready for paddy (wet work).

Also the best job, taking manure to spread in 1 field to produce the best wheat you ever tasted without any chemical spray or fertiliser.

Astleviz · 31st August 2009, 14:47

Just curious, how much do these tractors cost? I know it will vary from model to model and from manufacturer to manufacturer but what is the ballpark range? 5L? 10L? For example, how much would new holland tractors mentioned here cost and how much would be a similarly specced john deere for?

reddy6980 · 31st August 2009, 15:24

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Originally Posted by bigman

Reddy,

It will be used for typical farming work in Punjab/Haryana. So ploughing after paddy is cultivated, taking crops to mandi (trolley), getting fields ready for paddy (wet work).

Also the best job, taking manure to spread in 1 field to produce the best wheat you ever tasted without any chemical spray or fertiliser.

If these are the uses i think a 40-45 hp tractor will do.but i think 40-45hp tractors do not have power steering.only john deer gives power steering for 45 hp tractors.

MileCruncher · 31st August 2009, 22:59

@ Bigman, having worked in the Tractor industry a bit, here are a few pointers for your consideration:

If you are looking for a High HP tractor ( 55 HP or above) you would be better off going with John Deere or New Holland. Even Swaraj 855 FE is also good. Below 55 HP is a different game altogether.
In the 45 HP category, you have MM Arjun 475, Tafe 5245 Mahaan / Maha Mahaan and Escorts ( Don't remember model number) all of which have pros and cons.
If you are looking for relaibility and resale value depending upon region it would be either MM or TAFE.
The major benefit of TAFE/MF tractors over others s the hydraulics as it uses double acting plunger ( I think).

I would be able to help you better if you can tell me what kind of acreage are you talking about per tractor and whether any other implements like the Front Loader or Back Hoe are also going to be instaled.

Cheers

bigman · 1st September 2009, 00:34

Mile Cruncher,

He says it has to be 55HP. Please can you look at the web links posted in the first post for the New Holland 3630 and 5500 and tell me in laymans terms what the differences are. Is there any specification difference between the two?

To me they appear to be the same thing just one has a fancy modern look and there is an option to go for 4wd (on the 5500) but he will be going for 2wd.

Thanks.

bigman · 1st September 2009, 19:24

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Originally Posted by Astleviz

Just curious, how much do these tractors cost? I know it will vary from model to model and from manufacturer to manufacturer but what is the ballpark range? 5L? 10L? For example, how much would new holland tractors mentioned here cost and how much would be a similarly specced john deere for?

New Holland 3630 is about RS5.25 lakh. The New Holland 5500 is about RS5.33 lakh. The 55 HP John Deere is about RS5.5 lakh

MileCruncher · 1st September 2009, 21:35

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Originally Posted by bigman

Mile Cruncher,

He says it has to be 55HP. Please can you look at the web links posted in the first post for the New Holland 3630 and 5500 and tell me in laymans terms what the differences are. Is there any specification difference between the two?

To me they appear to be the same thing just one has a fancy modern look and there is an option to go for 4wd (on the 5500) but he will be going for 2wd.

Thanks.

The main difference between the two is in the Hydraulics and Rear axle. 5500 is better suited for using with various specialised implements like rotavator or for harvestor.

bigman · 1st September 2009, 23:32

Thanks Milecruncher,

He is going for the 3630 with the power steering fitted. RS5.25 but they might be able to haggle a bit off this price.

bigman · 12th October 2009, 14:43

Time to close this thread. In the end I managed to convince him to go for a John Deere. A brand new John Deere 5310 was bought last week for 5.27L which included the weights, canopy and front fender. A few locals who owned the NewHolland models als put him off getting one as they had encountered quite a few problems.

Apparently it drives like a car with it power braking and power steering.

MileCruncher · 12th October 2009, 15:20

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Originally Posted by bigman

Time to close this thread. In the end I managed to convince him to go for a John Deere. A brand new John Deere 5310 was bought last week for 5.27L which included the weights, canopy and front fender. A few locals who owned the NewHolland models als put him off getting one as they had encountered quite a few problems.

Apparently it drives like a car with it power braking and power steering.

Congrats!!!

I guess you should start an ownership thread. It will definitely be a first

bigman · 12th October 2009, 22:13

Thanks milecruncher.

I think the old Ford 3600 will end up in our garage........maybe we could start special tractor OTR events.

I think someone beat us to a tractor thread, someone bought a small tractor and posted a thread in the 4x4 section a few months back

drpullockaran · 12th October 2009, 22:24

Was going through the links provided about the New Holland tractors in the first post and came across this line about Oil immersed disc brakes. What are they and how do they operate if its immersed in oil.

MileCruncher · 13th October 2009, 03:21

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Originally Posted by drpullockaran

Was going through the links provided about the New Holland tractors in the first post and came across this line about Oil immersed disc brakes. What are they and how do they operate if its immersed in oil.

In tractors the brakes are not on the wheels but on the drive shafts coming out of the differential. OIDB are the norm and the oil helps in heat transference. In tractors the two wheel brakes are independent of each other as well helping in 0 turning radius turns.

n.devdath · 13th October 2009, 08:51

The TAFE/Massey Fergusson 45HP tractor is a 4 cylinder engine, has power steering and is better for agricultural duties than a Mahindra though it does not sell well due to TAFE's poor marketing.

MileCruncher · 13th October 2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by n.devdath

The TAFE/Massey Fergusson 45HP tractor is a 4 cylinder engine, has power steering and is better for agricultural duties than a Mahindra though it does not sell well due to TAFE's poor marketing.

Thats a very blanket statement. Having worked with TAFE, let me tell you this much that TAFE has higher profitability across all tractor manufacturers irrespective of volumes.

31st August 2009, 14:43	#16
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Reddy, It will be used for typical farming work in Punjab/Haryana. So ploughing after paddy is cultivated, taking crops to mandi (trolley), getting fields ready for paddy (wet work). Also the best job, taking manure to spread in 1 field to produce the best wheat you ever tasted without any chemical spray or fertiliser.
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31st August 2009, 14:47	#17
Astleviz BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Panjim, Goa Posts: 370 Thanked: 174 Times	Just curious, how much do these tractors cost? I know it will vary from model to model and from manufacturer to manufacturer but what is the ballpark range? 5L? 10L? For example, how much would new holland tractors mentioned here cost and how much would be a similarly specced john deere for?
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31st August 2009, 22:59	#19
MileCruncher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MH01 Posts: 4,235 Thanked: 589 Times View My Garage	@ Bigman, having worked in the Tractor industry a bit, here are a few pointers for your consideration: If you are looking for a High HP tractor ( 55 HP or above) you would be better off going with John Deere or New Holland. Even Swaraj 855 FE is also good. Below 55 HP is a different game altogether. In the 45 HP category, you have MM Arjun 475, Tafe 5245 Mahaan / Maha Mahaan and Escorts ( Don't remember model number) all of which have pros and cons. If you are looking for relaibility and resale value depending upon region it would be either MM or TAFE. The major benefit of TAFE/MF tractors over others s the hydraulics as it uses double acting plunger ( I think). I would be able to help you better if you can tell me what kind of acreage are you talking about per tractor and whether any other implements like the Front Loader or Back Hoe are also going to be instaled. Cheers
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1st September 2009, 00:34	#20
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Mile Cruncher, He says it has to be 55HP. Please can you look at the web links posted in the first post for the New Holland 3630 and 5500 and tell me in laymans terms what the differences are. Is there any specification difference between the two? To me they appear to be the same thing just one has a fancy modern look and there is an option to go for 4wd (on the 5500) but he will be going for 2wd. Thanks.
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1st September 2009, 23:32	#23
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Thanks Milecruncher, He is going for the 3630 with the power steering fitted. RS5.25 but they might be able to haggle a bit off this price.
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12th October 2009, 14:43	#24
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Time to close this thread. In the end I managed to convince him to go for a John Deere. A brand new John Deere 5310 was bought last week for 5.27L which included the weights, canopy and front fender. A few locals who owned the NewHolland models als put him off getting one as they had encountered quite a few problems. Apparently it drives like a car with it power braking and power steering. Last edited by bigman : 12th October 2009 at 14:45.
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12th October 2009, 22:13	#26
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Thanks milecruncher. I think the old Ford 3600 will end up in our garage........maybe we could start special tractor OTR events. I think someone beat us to a tractor thread, someone bought a small tractor and posted a thread in the 4x4 section a few months back
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12th October 2009, 22:24	#27
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 962 Thanked: 380 Times	Oil immersed disc brakes Was going through the links provided about the New Holland tractors in the first post and came across this line about Oil immersed disc brakes. What are they and how do they operate if its immersed in oil.
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13th October 2009, 08:51	#29
n.devdath BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,287 Thanked: 2,811 Times	The TAFE/Massey Fergusson 45HP tractor is a 4 cylinder engine, has power steering and is better for agricultural duties than a Mahindra though it does not sell well due to TAFE's poor marketing.
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