The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines

vaisakhr · 10th May 2010, 11:04

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Originally Posted by vijaypalsingh

Dear Vaisakhr,

Below link may interset you for your query. Pls check table of "The Modern Scale". Most shippies take a print out of this scale & keep it posted in the bridge (Control Room/Cockpit of Ship)
Beaufort scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With warm regards,
Vijay

Thanks for the link Vijay. This is the one am talking about. I heard about the scale from my boss, who sailed in one of our ships as a guaranty engineer.

vijaypalsingh · 10th May 2010, 11:15

@ Vaishakr: "one of our ships" That's interesting!

Would you mind elaborating more? or else you can PM me.

W.W.Rgds,
Vijay

vaisakhr · 10th May 2010, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by vijaypalsingh

@ Vaishakr: "one of our ships" That's interesting!

Would you mind elaborating more? or else you can PM me.

W.W.Rgds,
Vijay

As I mentioned earlier I am working in Cochin Shipyard Ltd, largest shipyard in India (only a trainee though

) we used to mention the ship we built as 'our ships'. Me too currently working on a building vessel. I can give some specs about 'our' current ship.

Its a Platform Supply Vessel. Which is used to shuttle between rigs and shore. It is not so big (only 63m lpp). The following is the main machinery in the ship

Main engine - 2nos - Rolls Royce (Bergen) C25:33L6P
Gearbox - 2nos - Kamewa Ulstein
Shaft Generators - 2nos - (sorry don't remember the make)
Auxiliary Engines(Diesel Generators) - Caterpillar
Tunnel Thrusters - 4nos - 2 bow and 2 stern.
Cargo pumps - 7nos - for diff medium from ballast water to mud.

the list won't end here if I start typing. And besides am mechanical the electrical and instrumentation part is not so familiar to me ( which btw covers 50% of the machinery). The most interesting features about the ship are the Dynamic Positioning and the Auto pilot.

Thats it. 63m shrunk down to 10cm. Guess the compression ratio and the think I have missed to mention.

ariesonu · 14th May 2010, 16:57

Mr. Vijay,

It was a real treat meeting you last week. You were so modest to the core & my collegues cannot stop gushing for the "special" treat that you arranged for us at Kandla. With so many things happening around us, we were unable to talk much & I have so many things to discuss with you.
Please do call me up when you are in Mumbai.
I have sent you a PM too.

Raab Rakha.

vijaypalsingh · 14th June 2010, 01:07

Can't believe I'm here after almost one month or so. Leraina visited TB sometime in first week of June to check on messages. Anyway it feels so good to get out of the hospital bed & to be literally back in action.
Don't be shocked.
You all may remember my fall onboard one of my ships. Well soon after I had resumed office, I would feel pain in my upper abdomen whenever I took a deep breath & had lost some control over my nature calls. I merely let is pass believing that this may be due to some minor internal muscle swelling that may be healing. Well it was not that way, but of one that took bad turn one night. I felt unbearable abdominal pain & was rushed to the hospital, only to find that I had actually fractured my floating ribs on right side & they were wrongly healing with swelling in & around stomach. This had probably been missed in my initial check-ups, Largely due to my own mis-commuincation with doctors & my carelessness

. Well coming back to present stage, I had to undergo three pinhole surgeries to fix my insides & four weeks of COMPLETE bed rest. This caused some hard commercial decisions, especially by Leraina who to my amazement proved to have more knowledge & grit than I could think for myself. Making long story short, we sold one of the ship (The one I had fall on) at marginal profits but more because we got superstitious about this one. We shippies are superstitious

ask anyone of them who are on forum. It had brought some bad-lucks since its acquisition. Well the good thing is that we finalised purchase of two other handymax bulk carriers & will soon be bringing them in. Will keep you guys posted & next post will also bring photos of new beauties & few from the ships that under went dry-docking last month.
I also noted that TB was offline today due to some hardware upgradation. So had to wait good two hours before postiong this-one.

Moral of the story: Please do take good care of your health because what you may feel a minor problem today can be a major hospitalisation tomorrow. Live healthy.

With warm regards,
Vijay

Thad E Ginathom · 14th June 2010, 01:51

Very sorry to hear of the ills --- but what matters is that they are over! Welcome back

ElantraGT · 14th June 2010, 13:41

Vijay Sir, Welcome back. Hope you are feeling great after 4 weeks of bed rest. Its good to see you back in action.

nairrk · 14th June 2010, 13:55

oh.. wondering long silence from you.?
Hope all is well now and you have recovered fully(almost?).
A shippie cannot be out of action for such long period but as you said you have people to take care of things in your absence.
All the best!

karpusv · 15th June 2010, 15:38

Awesom!

I am Hooked.
Need more.... Please

vijaypalsingh · 15th June 2010, 22:59

The ship was in dry-dock at Tampa-USA & was there when the BP oil spill happened in the Gulf of Mexico.
Below are the pix of freshly refurbished deck & LOTS of pix of Engine Room. The ship loaded DAP cargo for discharging at Kandla. She was in Port of Kandla around 18th May'10 & the pix were taken when she was out at anchorage. Hope you guys like them.

THE MAIN DECK(STARBOARD SIDE)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit.jpg

THE MAIN DECK(PORT SIDE)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-2.jpg

MAIN ENGINE HEAD UNITS

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-15.jpg

TURBO-CHARGER (BACKSIDE VIEW)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-16.jpg

TURBO-CHARGER (FRONTSIDE VIEW)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-14.jpg

MAIN ENGINE (BOTTOM PLATFORM)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-21.jpg

MAIN ENGINE (VIEW from SHAFT TUNNEL)

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MAIN ENGINE (VIEW from SHAFT TUNNEL-CLOSE UP)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-27.jpg

ANOTHER VIEW OF MAIN SHAFT (DIAGONAL VIEW)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-17.jpg

MAIN ENGINE HEAD UNITS (TOPSIDE VIEW-NOTE THE HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-31.jpg

MAIN ENGINE HEAD UNITS (ANOTHER VIEW-NOTE THE HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-33.jpg

HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK DONE BETWEEN ENGINE ROOM & CARGO HOLDS

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-34.jpg

FRESHWATER GENERATOR

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-28.jpg

FRESHWATER GENERATOR (TEMPLATE)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-29.jpg

OILY WATER SEPERATOR-A VERY IMPORTANT EQUIPMENT-USED FOR FILTERING OIL FROM WATER BEFORE OVERBOARD DISCHARGING)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-24.jpg

OILY WATER SEPERATOR (WARNING)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-25.jpg

FIRE PUMP & GENERAL BALLAST PUMP

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-20.jpg

MAIN GENERAL PUMP (NOTE THE HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-19.jpg

PURIFIERS (THEIR JOB IS TO PURIFY VARIOUS OILS BEFORE THEY ARE FED INTO MAIN ENGINE or GENERATORS)

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-13.jpg

GENERATOR # 2

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-9.jpg

GENERATOR # 1

The R-E-A-L BHP Giants: Maritime (Ship) Engines-aidni-spirit-10.jpg

With warm regards,
Vijay

Thad E Ginathom · 15th June 2010, 23:45

That was a wonderful tour.

Is your freshwater generator a reverse-osmosis plant?

I was reading on another forum just lately of the strict laws with regards to the discharge of oil from ships, and that even a bucketful is enough to get a captain into very serious trouble. Kind of ironic to see the notice about it, with what is going on just now!

carboy · 16th June 2010, 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Is your freshwater generator a reverse-osmosis plant?

It's usually evaporator & condensor based, I think. From my old knowledge, ships also carry a lot of drinkable water, other than using the evaporator.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I was reading on another forum just lately of the strict laws with regards to the discharge of oil from ships, and that even a bucketful is enough to get a captain into very serious trouble. Kind of ironic to see the notice about it, with what is going on just now!

Again from my old knowledge, these laws used to be strictly followed when the ships were near USA or Europe, but totally ignored around India.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariesonu

@Carboy: Very nice writeup. Do you have marine background? To credit you, I have taken some points from your above write up & now use it in my lectures that I take at one of the marine institutes. You have summarised it so well that we often overlook such simple explanations & go overdrive. Thanks mate.

To call it a marine background would be an exaggeration. But I have spent 6-7 months around ships really really long back. So long back, it almost seems like it was in an earlier life.

vijaycool · 16th June 2010, 16:36

I am in a general assumption that these monster engines use crude oil as fuel instead of diesel. Correct me if i am wrong.

vaisakhr · 16th June 2010, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by vijaycool

I am in a general assumption that these monster engines use crude oil as fuel instead of diesel. Correct me if i am wrong.

Its not crude oil. Its called MDO(Marine Diesel Oil). Its more viscous and less expensive than ordinary diesel.

nairrk · 16th June 2010, 17:12

No, the major portion of the oil used in ships are FUEL OIL ( 180 cst or 380 cst -Grade). MDO is used only small amount while the ship is at sea ,say 2/3 tons per day
and little more when on the port . Modern ship's engines do not require MDO and mainly Fuel oil is used.

10th May 2010, 11:15	#167
vijaypalsingh BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chandigarh / Calgary / Mumbai Posts: 65 Thanked: 67 Times	@ Vaishakr: "one of our ships" That's interesting! Would you mind elaborating more? or else you can PM me. W.W.Rgds, Vijay
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14th May 2010, 16:57	#169
ariesonu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,343 Thanked: 2,417 Times View My Garage	Mr. Vijay, It was a real treat meeting you last week. You were so modest to the core & my collegues cannot stop gushing for the "special" treat that you arranged for us at Kandla. With so many things happening around us, we were unable to talk much & I have so many things to discuss with you. Please do call me up when you are in Mumbai. I have sent you a PM too. Raab Rakha. Last edited by ariesonu : 14th May 2010 at 17:00.
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14th June 2010, 01:07	#170
vijaypalsingh BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chandigarh / Calgary / Mumbai Posts: 65 Thanked: 67 Times	I'm back (Termitaor style) Can't believe I'm here after almost one month or so. Leraina visited TB sometime in first week of June to check on messages. Anyway it feels so good to get out of the hospital bed & to be literally back in action. Don't be shocked. You all may remember my fall onboard one of my ships. Well soon after I had resumed office, I would feel pain in my upper abdomen whenever I took a deep breath & had lost some control over my nature calls. I merely let is pass believing that this may be due to some minor internal muscle swelling that may be healing. Well it was not that way, but of one that took bad turn one night. I felt unbearable abdominal pain & was rushed to the hospital, only to find that I had actually fractured my floating ribs on right side & they were wrongly healing with swelling in & around stomach. This had probably been missed in my initial check-ups, Largely due to my own mis-commuincation with doctors & my carelessness. Well coming back to present stage, I had to undergo three pinhole surgeries to fix my insides & four weeks of COMPLETE bed rest. This caused some hard commercial decisions, especially by Leraina who to my amazement proved to have more knowledge & grit than I could think for myself. Making long story short, we sold one of the ship (The one I had fall on) at marginal profits but more because we got superstitious about this one. We shippies are superstitious ask anyone of them who are on forum. It had brought some bad-lucks since its acquisition. Well the good thing is that we finalised purchase of two other handymax bulk carriers & will soon be bringing them in. Will keep you guys posted & next post will also bring photos of new beauties & few from the ships that under went dry-docking last month. I also noted that TB was offline today due to some hardware upgradation. So had to wait good two hours before postiong this-one. Moral of the story: Please do take good care of your health because what you may feel a minor problem today can be a major hospitalisation tomorrow. Live healthy. With warm regards, Vijay Last edited by vijaypalsingh : 14th June 2010 at 01:10.
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14th June 2010, 01:51	#171
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,004 Thanked: 26,437 Times	Very sorry to hear of the ills --- but what matters is that they are over! Welcome back
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14th June 2010, 13:41	#172
ElantraGT BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 441 Thanked: 12 Times	Vijay Sir, Welcome back. Hope you are feeling great after 4 weeks of bed rest. Its good to see you back in action.
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14th June 2010, 13:55	#173
nairrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kannur Posts: 2,441 Thanked: 674 Times View My Garage	oh.. wondering long silence from you.? Hope all is well now and you have recovered fully(almost?). A shippie cannot be out of action for such long period but as you said you have people to take care of things in your absence. All the best!
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15th June 2010, 15:38	#174
karpusv BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: BLR / NGO Posts: 291 Thanked: 186 Times	Awesom! I am Hooked. Need more.... Please
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15th June 2010, 22:59	#175
vijaypalsingh BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chandigarh / Calgary / Mumbai Posts: 65 Thanked: 67 Times	The ship was in dry-dock at Tampa-USA & was there when the BP oil spill happened in the Gulf of Mexico. Below are the pix of freshly refurbished deck & LOTS of pix of Engine Room. The ship loaded DAP cargo for discharging at Kandla. She was in Port of Kandla around 18th May'10 & the pix were taken when she was out at anchorage. Hope you guys like them. THE MAIN DECK(STARBOARD SIDE) THE MAIN DECK(PORT SIDE) MAIN ENGINE HEAD UNITS TURBO-CHARGER (BACKSIDE VIEW) TURBO-CHARGER (FRONTSIDE VIEW) MAIN ENGINE (BOTTOM PLATFORM) MAIN ENGINE (VIEW from SHAFT TUNNEL) MAIN ENGINE (VIEW from SHAFT TUNNEL-CLOSE UP) ANOTHER VIEW OF MAIN SHAFT (DIAGONAL VIEW) MAIN ENGINE HEAD UNITS (TOPSIDE VIEW-NOTE THE HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK) MAIN ENGINE HEAD UNITS (ANOTHER VIEW-NOTE THE HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK) HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK DONE BETWEEN ENGINE ROOM & CARGO HOLDS FRESHWATER GENERATOR FRESHWATER GENERATOR (TEMPLATE) OILY WATER SEPERATOR-A VERY IMPORTANT EQUIPMENT-USED FOR FILTERING OIL FROM WATER BEFORE OVERBOARD DISCHARGING) OILY WATER SEPERATOR (WARNING) FIRE PUMP & GENERAL BALLAST PUMP MAIN GENERAL PUMP (NOTE THE HIGH QUALITY INSULATION WORK) PURIFIERS (THEIR JOB IS TO PURIFY VARIOUS OILS BEFORE THEY ARE FED INTO MAIN ENGINE or GENERATORS) GENERATOR # 2 GENERATOR # 1 With warm regards, Vijay
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15th June 2010, 23:45	#176
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,004 Thanked: 26,437 Times	That was a wonderful tour. Is your freshwater generator a reverse-osmosis plant? I was reading on another forum just lately of the strict laws with regards to the discharge of oil from ships, and that even a bucketful is enough to get a captain into very serious trouble. Kind of ironic to see the notice about it, with what is going on just now!
	() Thanks

16th June 2010, 16:36	#178
vijaycool BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 309 Thanked: 111 Times	I am in a general assumption that these monster engines use crude oil as fuel instead of diesel. Correct me if i am wrong.
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16th June 2010, 17:12	#180
nairrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kannur Posts: 2,441 Thanked: 674 Times View My Garage	No, the major portion of the oil used in ships are FUEL OIL ( 180 cst or 380 cst -Grade). MDO is used only small amount while the ship is at sea ,say 2/3 tons per day and little more when on the port . Modern ship's engines do not require MDO and mainly Fuel oil is used.
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