hey guys, we are expecting a
25 seater (pushback/reclining seats) mini bus.
Quote:
Originally Posted by v1kram Raj, not sure about the AC part though since my friend has a non a/c bus for inside city operations. Parts availabilty will be a major deciding factor (main reason for avoiding TATA buses in down south - as per my friend), i would say it would be safe to go with Lynx.
Btw, congrats on your new venture, closely following your thread. |
okay, i'll find out. but thanks a lot vikram.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Transsenger @Raj_5004...
Considering your requirements here are my views. The following are the models presently avaliable which are suitable for your application. Also mentioned are the respective dealer at Cochin. From Tata:
FBV - Starbus on 709 & 909 platforms. No Marcopolo mini a/c bus as of now.
Chassis - LP709 (4200WB), LP909(4900WB)
LP712 or LP912 for higher power engine (125HP, BS3) Its learned that Tata would be launching new LCV platform with CRDI engine within next two months.
Dealer - Popular Mega Motors (I) Ltd From AL:
FBV - Lynx.
Not sure whether Stag FB a/c version is avaliable in domestic market!
Chassis - Lynx (4200WB)
STAG (4200WB) .
Both have same engine (Hino 120HP, BS2) and can drive a/c directly.
Dealer - TVS & Sons Ltd From Eicher:
FBV - Skyline (not sure about a/c)
Chassis - 10.90 Bus
Engine is not so powerful!
Dealer - PSN Eicher From Swaraj Mazda:
FBV & Chassis are avaliable.
Dealer - Maxim Motors From Mahindra:
FBV - Tourister42. Not sure about chassis.
Dealer - TVS & Sons
Among the above, following are widely used for this application in Kerala market:
1. Ashok Leyland - STAG
2. Tata - LP709
3. Eicher and Mazda to lesser extend.
Ashok Leyland Stag & Lynx have common engine and also its a 4cylinder version of the same engine on your Vikings. But with a Rotary FIP instead of Inline one in your Vikings. There are lot of A/c mini buses based on STAG platform even at Ernakulam. Stag chassis has largest "front overhang" among all. Its very strong & reliable chassis.
Tata LP709 is the most widely used minibus chassis, its time tested one! But now longer chassis LP909 is also avaliable. The engine is same for both (Tata 497TurboIntercooler 90HP, BS2). Also LP712 & LP912 with higher power engine 125HP BS3 can be considered.
The Lynx, TataLP1109, Eicher11.10 etc are ICV (Intermediate commercial vehilces) and Stag, LP709, Eicher10.90 are LCV.
There is no need to go for a short wheelbase big chassis like Cheetah/Viking or 1510/1512 etc.
Its better to go for a chassis & get the body as per your requiremnts from a reputed body builder. |
thats was indeed very comprehensive & helpful. thanks a lot mate.
that the lynx engine can be directly coupled to the AC would be a big plus point.
but from what i have compared, the eicher 10.90 chassis is 8677 mm long whereas the lynx chassis is just 7966 mm long.
the eicher website says it can accomodate 22 P/B seats. one of a travel company in kerela has 7 eicher mini buses built on 10.90 chassis with 19 P/B seats.
so the lynx being shorter in length, how will it accomodate 25 P/B seats?
the eicher website says 11.10K chassis with a length of 9475mm accomodates 25 P/B seats, but i assume that will be too expensive. totally confused!
Quote:
Originally Posted by teamveevee Picture from Alma Motors website...
In my opinion, Since you already own 2 Leyland buses, it may be better to go with Leyland Lynx. You will be able to use the Same service center, workshop etc and may be even able to share common parts. [With the vast dealership TM got in Kerala, this may not be an issue. Still....] |
frankly, the mahindra bus looks horrendous!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley2 Stag :
-It comes under LCV segment with GVW as 7500 kgs.
- 3600,3900,4200 as WB options.
-Engine - H series HCTI with 88 KW.
-Tyres - 7.5 x 16 - 16 PR.
-Avl as Fully Built - Non AC and Cowl - Chassis options.
Lynx
- Lynx comes under ICV segment with GVW as 1100 kgs.
- Ly3900,4200 as WB options.
-Engine - H series HCTI with 88 KW.
-Tyres - 9 x 20 - 14 PR.
-Avl as Fully Built - Non AC and Cowl - Chassis options.
Recommendations:
- Lynx - 4200 is a better platform and will meet your requirements of 30 seats.
- Do not go for FB as they come with very basic interiors and further its difficult for you to retrofit AC.
- There is no need for a slave engine and the onboard engine can take care of powering your AC.
- Get the bodies done from (y)our favourite 'SM Kannapa' Automobiles - Prakash.
-Since already you are having Vikings, going with Lynx will certainly help you in service and maintenance with same ASC. |
sure, its fixed we wont go for FB bodies.
if the AC can run on the onboard engine, its a huge plus point.
if we get the body done at prakash, advantage is that body style & colour can be kept same, to maintain uniformity.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley2 Hey Raj even your Vikings are atleast 3 decades old.
Never mind they are constantly been upgraded to modern ages.
The Name alone stands same and nothing more. |
yes, that i agree! lol...