Procedure for converting commercial vehicles to private vehicles

honeybee · 19th May 2010, 11:53

Mods: I couldn't find a thread that details this, so I thought of starting a new one. Please merge with an existing one if there's one.

I haven't been able to find the exact procedure for converting a commercial vehicle (Tourist registration) to a private vehicle. From whatever bits I have been able to gather, you have to apply to the RTO of registration to cancel the Tourist tag, pay a one time tax (as in case of new private vehicles) and get the vehicle converted to a private vehicle. The whole process could take around two months.

Can someone confirm this? Also can someone with sources in the RTO find out more and post the details about the same?

vipinmohan · 12th September 2010, 11:57

can we convert all commercial vehicles to private? i have water tanker which is used for our own use . had approached agents for changing into private.but they declined saying commercial vehicles like lorry, bus ... cannot be made private

condor · 12th September 2010, 12:01

You cannot convert all commercial vehicles to private use. You can convert only those vehicles that can be converted.

Eg: You can convert an Indica / any other car / SUV to pvt use. But you will not be able to convert a truck to pvt use.

There are some exceptions, though : A mini-bus is typically a comm vehicle. But it can be registered so if it will house a generator. (like those used by hotels or film shooting units). I have also seen goods vehicles (like single-cab Mahindra Pik-up's with pvt registration), but again restrictions are there.

@Honeybee, what vehicle do you want to convert ?

dadu · 12th September 2010, 14:27

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Originally Posted by condor

You cannot convert all commercial vehicles to private use. You can convert only those vehicles that can be converted.

Eg: You can convert an Indica / any other car / SUV to pvt use. But you will not be able to convert a truck to pvt use.

There are some exceptions, though : A mini-bus is typically a comm vehicle. But it can be registered so if it will house a generator. (like those used by hotels or film shooting units). I have also seen goods vehicles (like single-cab Mahindra Pik-up's with pvt registration), but again restrictions are there.

@Honeybee, what vehicle do you want to convert ?

The rules also vary from state to state for eg. IIRC, in KA you cannot convert a taxi car to a private board due to road tax differences and difficult workings.

condor · 12th September 2010, 14:42

Dadu, it is possible in KA also. I am not able to find the relevant sections /rule online. But one ref here : an audit report. Reference is on page 3 of the 6 pages

http://www.cag.gov.in/html/cag_repor.../rev_chap3.pdf

vipinmohan · 12th September 2010, 15:37

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Originally Posted by dadu

The rules also vary from state to state for eg. IIRC, in KA you cannot convert a taxi car to a private board due to road tax differences and difficult workings.

however in kerala, we do it regularly. most of the old private ambassador cars were taxis .

honeybee · 18th September 2010, 01:53

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Originally Posted by condor

@Honeybee, what vehicle do you want to convert ?

LOL rest assured it will be a four wheeler, not an eighteen wheeler!

aargee · 18th September 2010, 06:17

This provokes me to ask a question here. So far I've seen only one lorry in white board; means, its for a private use. The lorry carries a big ELGI machine that is used for drilling rigs at home. So what does that indicate? The lorry is not used for commercial pupose? So why do they carry an ELGI machine around & make money out of it? I'm little confused. Any help in understanding is appreciated.

condor · 18th September 2010, 07:07

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honeybee

: LOL rest assured it will be a four wheeler, not an eighteen wheeler!

uh Oh ! Looks like I'm trying to break into your secret ! Will look away

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aargee

: The lorry carries a big ELGI machine that is used for drilling rigs at home.

Was it the drill rig, or the support vehicle.
(Will keep an eye out for such vehicles -I have always seen these to be yellow-boards).

aargee · 18th September 2010, 07:42

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Originally Posted by condor

Was it the drill rig, or the support vehicle.
(Will keep an eye out for such vehicles -I have always seen these to be yellow-boards).

Ok, to put in much simple words, the ELGI machine is used for drilling bore well at homes. So this lorry used to roam around with this heft machine. Typically, this is the only lorry that I've seen with a private board till date. Is this even permitted first of all? Reason being, they aren't servicing homes to rig well & they make business out of it, so shouldn't the lorry come under yellow board?

honeybee · 18th September 2010, 10:55

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Originally Posted by aargee

Ok, to put in much simple words, the ELGI machine is used for drilling bore well at homes. So this lorry used to roam around with this heft machine. Typically, this is the only lorry that I've seen with a private board till date. Is this even permitted first of all? Reason being, they aren't servicing homes to rig well & they make business out of it, so shouldn't the lorry come under yellow board?

How old is this lorry? If it's from a pre-historic lot, there is a chance it carries a private board when separate colour schemes for commercial vehicles had not been introduced, and the cops are just too lazy to catch this one?

condor · 18th September 2010, 11:06

@aargee, it could be that the drilling machine is on hire. Not the truck itself. The Truck is incidental - it only carries the drilling rig.

@Honeybee, even if pre-historic, the number plate schemes have been changed. If the truck was very old one, it would also have had to go thru re-registration / FC processes which would have taken care of the licence plate color scheme

vipinmohan · 21st September 2010, 11:07

it is not the only one.i have seen many lorries carrying borewell machine with private boards.there are many recovery vans (lorries) with white nameplates

Quote:

Originally Posted by aargee

Ok, to put in much simple words, the ELGI machine is used for drilling bore well at homes. So this lorry used to roam around with this heft machine. Typically, this is the only lorry that I've seen with a private board till date. Is this even permitted first of all? Reason being, they aren't servicing homes to rig well & they make business out of it, so shouldn't the lorry come under yellow board?

honeybee · 22nd September 2010, 09:00

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Originally Posted by honeybee

How old is this lorry? If it's from a pre-historic lot, there is a chance it carries a private board when separate colour schemes for commercial vehicles had not been introduced, and the cops are just too lazy to catch this one?

I saw an ATM cash refilling van the other day which carried private number plates. I guess we shall have to re-examine the definition of a commercial vehicle in the MVA.

mycarhasablower · 22nd May 2014, 00:44

Bumping an old thread here. Was curious, can an old used bus be converted to pvt registration? Its an idea(mostly fantasy) stuck in my head to buy a used bus rip out the seats and put beds,Ac and a tv in,convert the suspension to air springs and use it to do road trips with friends. Is it possible?

I remember reading somewhere that Sanjay Dutt had a full sized personal bus for traveling made by DC for him. Not sure if it had yellow plates.

19th May 2010, 11:53	#1
honeybee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dombivli Posts: 3,056 Thanked: 2,139 Times View My Garage	Procedure for converting commercial vehicles to private vehicles Mods: I couldn't find a thread that details this, so I thought of starting a new one. Please merge with an existing one if there's one. I haven't been able to find the exact procedure for converting a commercial vehicle (Tourist registration) to a private vehicle. From whatever bits I have been able to gather, you have to apply to the RTO of registration to cancel the Tourist tag, pay a one time tax (as in case of new private vehicles) and get the vehicle converted to a private vehicle. The whole process could take around two months. Can someone confirm this? Also can someone with sources in the RTO find out more and post the details about the same?
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12th September 2010, 11:57	#2
vipinmohan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: thrissur Posts: 50 Thanked: Once View My Garage	can we convert all commercial vehicles to private? i have water tanker which is used for our own use . had approached agents for changing into private.but they declined saying commercial vehicles like lorry, bus ... cannot be made private
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12th September 2010, 12:01	#3
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,013 Times View My Garage	You cannot convert all commercial vehicles to private use. You can convert only those vehicles that can be converted. Eg: You can convert an Indica / any other car / SUV to pvt use. But you will not be able to convert a truck to pvt use. There are some exceptions, though : A mini-bus is typically a comm vehicle. But it can be registered so if it will house a generator. (like those used by hotels or film shooting units). I have also seen goods vehicles (like single-cab Mahindra Pik-up's with pvt registration), but again restrictions are there. @Honeybee, what vehicle do you want to convert ?
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12th September 2010, 14:42	#5
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,013 Times View My Garage	Dadu, it is possible in KA also. I am not able to find the relevant sections /rule online. But one ref here : an audit report. Reference is on page 3 of the 6 pages http://www.cag.gov.in/html/cag_repor.../rev_chap3.pdf
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18th September 2010, 06:17	#8
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,637 Times	This provokes me to ask a question here. So far I've seen only one lorry in white board; means, its for a private use. The lorry carries a big ELGI machine that is used for drilling rigs at home. So what does that indicate? The lorry is not used for commercial pupose? So why do they carry an ELGI machine around & make money out of it? I'm little confused. Any help in understanding is appreciated.
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18th September 2010, 11:06	#12
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,013 Times View My Garage	@aargee, it could be that the drilling machine is on hire. Not the truck itself. The Truck is incidental - it only carries the drilling rig. @Honeybee, even if pre-historic, the number plate schemes have been changed. If the truck was very old one, it would also have had to go thru re-registration / FC processes which would have taken care of the licence plate color scheme
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22nd May 2014, 00:44	#15
mycarhasablower BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: -_- Posts: 315 Thanked: 130 Times	Re: Procedure for converting commercial vehicles to private vehicles Bumping an old thread here. Was curious, can an old used bus be converted to pvt registration? Its an idea(mostly fantasy) stuck in my head to buy a used bus rip out the seats and put beds,Ac and a tv in,convert the suspension to air springs and use it to do road trips with friends. Is it possible? I remember reading somewhere that Sanjay Dutt had a full sized personal bus for traveling made by DC for him. Not sure if it had yellow plates.
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