Ashok Leyland 12M

greatmana2000 · 27th June 2010, 13:18

Just have a look at the front /rear wheel hub . The higher powered vehicles have bigger hubs . The steering looks like the 25 tonne truck and the hub is also similar to the 25 tonner .

binaiks · 27th June 2010, 19:56

A small update on the 12M Super Expresses recently built by KeSRTC: According to an officer in-charge of the workshop building those buses, the current lot of buses have a 114hp engine. The next lot would have a 177hp engine.

smashnerd · 28th June 2010, 05:31

Someone high up in KSRTC's decision making ladder has lost his mind for sure.

P.S. - Do these super-expresses come with air-suspension?

prmd_cochin · 28th June 2010, 12:06

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Originally Posted by smashnerd

Someone high up in KSRTC's decision making ladder has lost his mind for sure.

Why so?

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Originally Posted by smashnerd

P.S. - Do these super-expresses come with air-suspension?

Yes they do, it written in the front.

binaiks · 28th June 2010, 17:35

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Originally Posted by smashnerd

Do these super-expresses come with air-suspension?

In the current lot (of 10 buses) - half have air suspension, while the remaining have waveller suspension.

Ashley2 · 28th June 2010, 18:17

As we were discussing about the steering wheel in 12M buses, the smaller wheel is the OE fitment(In all for models) and there are few operators/drivers who prefer the larger wheel as it seems to be comfortable to them.So they are changing those Lynx wheel into Viking wheel.
And also I heard that KeSRTC is buying Viking and increasing the length of them to another meter or so by adding additional flitch and cross member. They are also replacing the existing leaf spring suspension with air suspension.
So no matter how the vehicle looks like its been heavily modified by the users.

smashnerd · 6th July 2010, 18:04

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Originally Posted by prmd_cochin

Why so?

They're getting 12M buses with puny engines, that's why.

Ashley2 · 13th July 2010, 22:01

so is the bus identified as 12m or Viking?
Atleast if the wheel discs have 10 bolt arrangement we can conclude them as 12m or else they are sure that they are only Viking.

fx45 · 14th July 2010, 15:06

there are two wheel styles in AL since ages even the BEST buses in bombay some have the heavy duty style and some look like the smaller ones.

prmd_cochin · 14th July 2010, 20:40

The KeSRTC AL 12M . Photo courtesy Sujith Bhakthan and KSRTC Blog.

smashnerd · 16th July 2010, 05:12

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The KeSRTC AL 12M . Photo courtesy Sujith Bhakthan and KSRTC Blog.

Honestly, this is one good looking bus. But I think, it would still be a good idea if KeSRTC got a permanent designer to get some cleaner designs. The side profile of this bus is not too appealing.

They also need to work on getting their body panels straight and go for better quality paints and paint schemes.

teamveevee · 16th July 2010, 11:24

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Originally Posted by smashnerd

Honestly, this is one good looking bus.

The dash looks so outdated. Is it a new bus? Already missing some switches? Who looks at them anyway, The drivers are used to drive these AL buses with non functional meters.

binaiks · 16th July 2010, 11:46

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Originally Posted by teamveevee

The dash looks so outdated. Is it a new bus? Already missing some switches? Who looks at them anyway, The drivers are used to drive these AL buses with non functional meters.

The dash looks like the ones we used to see on the old Ambassadors (the one with the meters at the middle). This is one point where TATA really scores - the dash looks elegant.

However, I don't think there are any missing switches here - the holes seem like a template: just a provision to add something in the future (this is purely a personal view).

prmd_cochin · 16th July 2010, 13:47

The interior of the same super express, image courtesy KSRTC blog.

Comfort aside the interior leaves a lot to be desired, isnt it too bright / bling inside ? Cant they do it away with the reinforcement bars holding the roof. Seats could have been of a darker colour protecting it from the colour fading, blackish marks after long usage.

smashnerd · 16th July 2010, 16:00

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Originally Posted by prmd_cochin

The interior of the same super express, image courtesy KSRTC blog.

Comfort aside the interior leaves a lot to be desired, isnt it too bright / bling inside ? Cant they do it away with the reinforcement bars holding the roof. Seats could have been of a darker colour protecting it from the colour fading, blackish marks after long usage.

Finally, the Super Express gets 2x2 seating. And yes, the interior is also too shiny for me. Maybe they're taking a cue from private buses.

27th June 2010, 13:18	#31
greatmana2000 BANNED Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 703 Thanked: 58 Times	Just have a look at the front /rear wheel hub . The higher powered vehicles have bigger hubs . The steering looks like the 25 tonne truck and the hub is also similar to the 25 tonner .
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27th June 2010, 19:56	#32
binaiks Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: KL-47 // KL-53 Posts: 1,829 Thanked: 1,158 Times	A small update on the 12M Super Expresses recently built by KeSRTC: According to an officer in-charge of the workshop building those buses, the current lot of buses have a 114hp engine. The next lot would have a 177hp engine.
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28th June 2010, 05:31	#33
smashnerd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kottayam Posts: 457 Thanked: 22 Times	Someone high up in KSRTC's decision making ladder has lost his mind for sure. P.S. - Do these super-expresses come with air-suspension?
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28th June 2010, 18:17	#36
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	As we were discussing about the steering wheel in 12M buses, the smaller wheel is the OE fitment(In all for models) and there are few operators/drivers who prefer the larger wheel as it seems to be comfortable to them.So they are changing those Lynx wheel into Viking wheel. And also I heard that KeSRTC is buying Viking and increasing the length of them to another meter or so by adding additional flitch and cross member. They are also replacing the existing leaf spring suspension with air suspension. So no matter how the vehicle looks like its been heavily modified by the users.
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13th July 2010, 22:01	#38
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	identified? so is the bus identified as 12m or Viking? Atleast if the wheel discs have 10 bolt arrangement we can conclude them as 12m or else they are sure that they are only Viking.
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14th July 2010, 15:06	#39
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 384 Times	there are two wheel styles in AL since ages even the BEST buses in bombay some have the heavy duty style and some look like the smaller ones.
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prmd_cochin BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 575 Thanked: 85 Times View My Garage	The KeSRTC AL 12M . Photo courtesy Sujith Bhakthan and KSRTC Blog. Attached Thumbnails
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16th July 2010, 13:47	#44
prmd_cochin BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 575 Thanked: 85 Times View My Garage	The interior of the same super express, image courtesy KSRTC blog. Comfort aside the interior leaves a lot to be desired, isnt it too bright / bling inside ? Cant they do it away with the reinforcement bars holding the roof. Seats could have been of a darker colour protecting it from the colour fading, blackish marks after long usage. Attached Thumbnails
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