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Originally Posted by teamveevee There are way too many Volvos and ALs in interstate routes. Probably a TM bus could be a differentiator for you. There is good reviews about the Tata Hispano SRS in Chennai Bangalore route. With a 2 year AMC with TM (including the Body), no head aches, especially for a new operator like you. More than the bus, service should be the differentiator.
70 Lakh for a Tata bus, is it worth? In case of Hispano, do they offer various suspension options, or just one configuration?
Like Binai said, for a Night service, the entertainment is not a big factor. Most of the people would like to sleep. Seat comfort, leg space, A/C, blankets, pillow, water etc play much bigger role.
The main problem i see with bus travel is the booking agents. ...the seat number, date and time of travel etc. On the date of travel, send a reminder.
Another important factor is the punctuality. Always be on time. Another tendency i see is, lot of times, if the bus is not full, i have seen the buses take passengers on the way for short distances. Some times they sit inside the drivers cabin also. |
My thoughts now are why not a volvo B7R if i am ready to spend 70 Lakhs for a tata..B7R's have definitely shown us what they are capable off...If maintained well they can be very reliable.
No doubt Tata Hispano is also a beautiful bus.I have not recieved the techinal details on the 285 HP bus..i think i need to contact the sale's man again...Tata would be at an advantage for me .if they offer the customization that i am looking for.For example volvo will not sell the bus with out seats!!!I dont need their seats.
Yes teamveevee , the factors that you talked about play a very very important role in the development of the buisness.I will look into the booking system as time goes by.
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Originally Posted by julupani 70lakhs for the Hispano Globus seems like a lot, especially considering that the 235hp model was available at 15lakhs less. Take a good look at the bus beforre making a decision. |
Yes , i will .But i guess they are hard to find.
Where do i look for them??.Does anyone of you know any more details on the 285 hp tata hispano.Aware of any operators using them??
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Originally Posted by TheARUN I have two suggestions for you mate. - Test the waters
- Get yourself an Education
Test the waters
Instead of plunging head long into the business, what you could do is buy the chassis, give it for Body building, which takes about 3 months. The point is, don't wait for your busses to hit the road before you start the business, hire two busses and start plying them. In 100 days you will have enough contacts and will know enough to be in a better position to run your brand new busses. Even if you are able to run the hired busses at a no profit no loss basis you would have still won Get yourself an Education
Instead of getting 2 busses, get 1 bus and ply on a short route. Eg: Bangalore-Madras or Bangalore-Hubli where you can make 2 trips a day. That way, it wil help you get on your feet and then you can plan out the expansion you have in mind.
These bus owners have - Fixed petrol bunks where they get fuel on credit
- Fixed tyre shops where they get tyres on credit
- Fixed spare parts shops where they get tyres on credit
- Monthly payments to the high and mighty
- Loyal and long cultivated Drivers
A newbie against them needs all the pluck in the world to survive
Wish you all the best |
Thanks for the suggestions Arun.
I know where you are coming from on your comments on Test the waters.Renting a bus and starting a bus operation will not solve my purpose.There are many established operators in the industry.
People will come if things are a bit different.I am confident about that!!
And regarding the education part.We have been continuously owning buses for the past 25 years.As i stated earlier , we used to have bus service in kerala. But in parallel we have been owning and running buses in Hyderabad.We even have at few times bought buses from Kerala and brought them to Hyderabad.I know how difficult it was to own and operate those old leyland pump and line machines. Thing got little better now.We have 3 leylands now and 5 Swarj Mazdas.Sorry , I cannot tell you the nature of their operation.So in short i am well verse with the technical details and ground realities of maintaining a bus.But i thing the new machines have got so complicated that we need trained guys to work on it.To the advantage of Authorized service centers who can charge Rs 48000 for a oil change.
Contacts with tire shops and petrol pumps are not a problem.They need business from us!!!
We can arrange for agents who can take care/Please the official/Government / mighty.Not a problem..But yes we need some contacts.
Yes in the long run we need good cultivated drivers and associates who would be very crucial to the business..
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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR Sensible suggestion, IMO. But why wait for the "leased bus" option till a bus is booked?
Also, he is not looking for a custom built bus on a normal chassis. He is looking to provide a premium service, using premium buses. Vehicle booking to delivery would definitely take up to 3 months still, I feel. |
What other options do i have apart from Volvo,TML , and AL Luxura?
Are any rear engine chasis availabe for building customized body? I have heard a lot about AL 12 M.
And another news is that , i was able to locate couple of seat manufactures and entertainment system makers for the coaches.Will have to talk to them more in detail about the requirements.