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Old 19th August 2017, 00:34   #1
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DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI

Some updates:

1. I did the 105,000 km service last weekend at home and it was a great experience. It’s a fairly easy job if one can source all the parts and tools and most importantly, has the time, patience and inclination to do it at home! I've penned down the steps briefly along with the tools, parts and consumables used.

Tools required:
  1. 19 mm 1/2” socket (for removing the engine sump drain plug).

  2. 32 mm 1/2” socket (for removing the oil filter assembly).

  3. Ratcheting socket wrench with a 1/2" drive (for loosening the drain plug and oil filter assy).

  4. Torque wrench with a 1/2” drive (for tightening the drain plug and oil filter assy as per the manufacturer recommended torque values).

  5. 10” extension bar for the 1/2” socket (for accessing the engine oil filter assy).

  6. Screw driver with T20 and T25 Torx bits (for removing the air filter box and the sensor assembly).

  7. Plastic tray (for draining the stock engine oil from the sump).

  8. Measuring jar.

  9. Blower (to clean the innards of the air filter box).


Parts required:
  1. Oil filter with o-rings (03L 115 562)

  2. Fuel filter (part number - 6RF 127 400A)

  3. Air filter (part number - 6RF 129 620)

  4. Dust and pollen filter (part number – 6R0 820 367)

  5. Drain plug with washer (part number - N90 813 202)

Many thanks to my friend Prithviraj for sourcing the parts!


Consumables required:
  1. Engine oil 5W40 grade - 4.3L (I sourced a 4L can and a 1L can of Motul Xcess 5W40 from Amazon)

DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170811_092854.jpg

Procedure:

I couldn’t click many snaps as the hands were getting dirty but I’ve managed to click a few. Here’re the steps in brief:


A. Replacing the dust and pollen filter:
  • The dust and pollen filter is located in a box below the glovebox accessed from the co-driver side footwell.

  • Slide the locking lugs towards each other and pull out the frame.

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  • Remove the old filter from the frame and replace the new filter observing the direction of flow of air.

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  • Replace the frame back into the box and slide the locking lugs back in place.


B. Replacing the air filter:

BHPian thoma has shared a neat thread describing the process on his Vento TDI – Link. Do have a look.
  • Unscrew the 6 Torx screws on the air filter box using the T20 screw driver and unplug the connector from the MAF sensor. Store the screws safely!

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  • Pull the box and quarter-turn the filter to remove it from the assembly.

    DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170811_104549.jpg

  • Use a blower to clean the innards of the box.

  • Replace the new air filter into the box, quarter turn to tighten it in place, place the box back into the assembly and replace the Torx screws.

  • Plug the MAF sensor’s connector.


B. Draining the stock engine oil:
  • Jack up one side of the car using the floor jack. Place some cushioning material on top of the saddle of the jack.

  • Place a jack stand at an appropriate location and use some cushioning material between the bottom of the car and the V-head of the jack stand (I had cut out some pieces from rubber sandals; will use some thicker neoprene sheets from the shipyard). Ensure that it is safe to crawl below the car.

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  • Pop the hood and remove the cap for pouring engine oil. Leave it on the inlet.

  • Attach the ratchet with the 19 mm socket, crawl underneath the car along with the plastic tray and some rag clothes.

    DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img20170811wa0020.jpg

  • Remove the drain plug from the oil sump.

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  • Let the oil drain from the sump completely to the last drop. Crawl out of the bottom.

    DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170811_092455.jpg


Replacing the fuel filter:
  • Disconnect the inlet and outlet fuel lines from the fuel filter - press the two tabs on the hose fitting and pull it out.

  • Undo the three clips and pull out the fuel filter.

    DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170811_092935.png

  • Replace the new filter and reconnect the fuel lines.


D. Replacing the oil filter:
  • Remove the engine head protective cover.

  • Unscrew the assembly holding the 2 air inlet lines and the sensor, and pull out the coolant tube to make space for removing the oil filter assembly. Replace the screw back in place.

    DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170811_094705.png

  • Attach the ratchet with the 32 mm socket and the 10” extension bar and unscrew the oil filter assembly.

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  • Pull out the filter from the housing and clean the external threading and the central stub thoroughly for the remnants of oil.

  • Remove the 3 o-rings – the main o-ring from the external threading of the housing and the 2 o-rings from the bottom of the stub.

  • Pour some fresh engine oil in a measuring jar, dip the replacement o-rings in the oil and insert them on the housing in their respective slots.

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  • Insert the replacement oil filter observing the orientation. It will lock in place only on one end.

  • Replace the housing back into the oil cooler assembly, adjust the value of the micrometer scale on the torque wrench to 25 Nm, attach the 32 mm socket to the wrench along with the 10” extension bar and tighten the drain plug until the click sound is heard.

  • Replace the air inlet lines assembly back in place and tighten the Torx screw.

  • By now the engine oil must have drained completely. Crawl beneath the car, clean the drain hole threads thoroughly using some rag clothes.

  • Screw the new drain plug into the hole and tighten it manually using hand.

  • Adjust the value of the micrometer scale on the torque wrench to 30 Nm, attach the 19 mm socket to the wrench and tighten the drain plug until the click sound is heard. Stop at the first click! Crawl out of the car.

  • Remove one of the jack stands on one side. Place the floor jack below the car and lower the car gradually by turning the valve on the jack gently.

  • Repeat the step for the other side.


E. Pouring fresh engine oil:
  • Remove the cap from the inlet, place some rag clothes around the inlet, put a funnel inside the inlet and pour the engine oil gently from the 4L can. Empty the can to the last drop.

    DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img20170811wa0023.jpg

  • Pour the measuring jar with 200 mL of engine oil from the 1L bottle. Pour it into the inlet.

  • Check the dipstick for the oil level and do not overfill! An underfill isn’t harmful but an overfill certainly is. The 1.6L CLNA engine takes 4.3L of engine oil. Pour an additional 100 mL observing the level on the dipstick. Tighten the oil cap.

  • Replace the engine cover.

  • Turn the key to ACC and turn it off to prime the fuel filter. Repeat the step 5-6 times to let the fuel filter soak in diesel.

  • Start the engine and allow it to idle for a few minutes.

  • Reset the service interval in the MID of the instrument cluster.

  • Head out for a test drive to check if everything is in order. Do the wheel balancing and alignment.

The used engine oil was poured back into the 4L can and handed over to a nearby garage along with the old parts. Drove to a tire shop and they did the alignment. Balancing was fine so it wasn’t done.

The junk that was left after all the used oil was poured back into the can:

DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170811_112922.jpg

Man, this tray and the measuring jar was a pain to clean in the end!

After the service, I drove around 800 km (including the return drive to Chennai) and there is a noticeable change in the performance esp. w.r.t. the reduced engine noise (as it is, the engine sounds like a tractor!) and the smoothness of the drive.

PS: Those are my company-supplied overalls.

2. The Liqui Moly Diesel Purge process

I tried to do the diesel purge process as indicated in this video:



Connected the fuel inlet and return lines from the engine into an old Horlicks’ bottle of diesel purge and a bypass tube for fuel supply from the fuel tank to the fuel filter and return fuel line from the engine but despite cranking the engine several times, it refused to start. Reconnected all the lines and the engine started in the first crank! I did it a second time as well, the engine refused to start again. The small inline fuel filter was oriented in the correct direction and the bottle was placed as low as possible – not sure why the engine refused to start. Possibly there was air in the fuel inlet line from the bottle to the engine?

DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170812_112115.jpg

Anyway, I decided to pour the diesel purge solution directly into the fuel tank when the fuel level was at a quarter of the reserve level, started the engine and revved it for nearly 7-10 minutes in 3 different intervals (was creating quite a racket in the car park!). The exhaust also smelled (!) different compared to the normal exhaust. The whole process took more than half an hour.

I am not sure what helped though – if it was this or the servicing part, there was a marked difference after the process. The most perceivable change is, the engine now idles smoothly with lesser vibrations and the FE shows an improvement. I set my cruise control at 110 kmph during my Palakkad - Chennai drives and this time, I reached home with the fuel gauge indicating slightly less than half a tank. Usually, I’d be left with a quarter tank of fuel once I reach home.

3. Retorquing the wheel bolts:

Since I got the torque wrench, I decided to retorque all the wheel bolts to the manufacturer recommended torque of 120 Nm. The bolts were previously tightened at the tire shop while doing the wheel balancing and alignment, and it was obviously overtightened. I had to stand atop the wheel wrenches to loosen them.

Attached a 5” extension bar and the 17 mm socket to the torque wrench, and tightened all the wheel bolts.



Must admit though, I was a bit paranoid after this and was checking if the bolts were in place when I took breaks during the return drive to Chennai.

4. The kerb weight mystery:

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Man, this is some news.
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Did you check if the weighbridge was zeroed correctly before you moved your car onto it?
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Woah Gannu, if that has any truth to it, we 1.6 GT TDI owners have been elevated to another esteemed club, with hatch that has astounding numbers
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VW's kerb weight would be as per EU standards and would include the weight of 1 driver (assumed at 75 kg), full tank of fuel (think it's 90% full now), all fluids, tools and tyres as new.
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I guess something is not right, to re-confirm you can check again at another weighing bridge.
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This could be a simple offset error. Did you check if the scale was showing zero before parking the car on the scale?
Guys, sorry about the goof-up regarding the kerb weight of the car! It is indeed 1190 kg with a tankful of fuel and without the driver’s weight.

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Tanked up the fuel on a morning and drove to the same weigh bridge this time. Not sure what exactly caused the error in the readout before but the operator said maybe the zero setting wasn’t done.

Finally, after a round of wash and wipe using ONR (Optimum No Rinse):

DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-img_20170814_161227_edited.jpg

That's all for now. Cheers!

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Old 19th August 2017, 01:31   #2
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Re: VW Polo GT TDI ownership log. EDIT: 1.05L km up + DIY servicing!

Did you give yourself a piece of paper saying that the emissions update was not to be done?

I'm sure there are a few other things on the service list, like greasing the door hinges. But you probably do that stuff every week!
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Old 19th August 2017, 02:49   #3
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Re: VW Polo GT TDI ownership log. EDIT: 1.05L km up + DIY servicing!

Very nice update Gannu, I am also planning to do it on my own (Or maybe with help of nearby FNG to source tools from him). However challenge as you mentioned is sourcing the parts like filter etc.

Can you also tell us how much this has costed you? I know the prices of these parts but did GST had any impact on the prices of spare. Speaking of GST i wonder what the cost of service will be at ASS now.
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Re: VW Polo GT TDI ownership log. EDIT: 1.05L km up + DIY servicing!

Very nice update. Getting our own hands dirty gives a feeling and satisfaction which can't be expressed in words.

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Man, this tray and the measuring jar was a pain to clean in the end!
Completely agree. The overall servicing isn't that much of an effort, but cleaning the tray and the measuring jar later is a pain.

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PS: Those are my company-supplied overalls.
And I was wondering all this while: How is this a DIY when Gannu Sir took help from a Mechanic ?? Only later did I realise that it was the moderator himself in that attire.

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Must admit though, I was a bit paranoid after this and was checking if the bolts were in place when I took breaks during the return drive to Chennai
Happened with me too when I torqued down the bolts according to the values given in the manual. The mechanics tighten it way too much.

Regards,
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Wow Gannu, this is too good! Moving your post to its own thread + adding a link to here in your ownership review.

Thanks for sharing!
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Some updates:

3. The Liqui Moly Diesel Purge process

Not sure why the engine refused to start. Possibly there was air in the fuel inlet line from the bottle to the engine?
Dear Gannu_1,
Since there is no low pressure feed when the fuel filter is disconnected, high pressure pump won't be able to pull the cleaning fluid on its own from the jar. If you remember from a4anurag's injector cleaning thread, I used a spare low pressure fuel pump immersed in LM Diesel purge and connected it directly to the filter.

DIY: 105,000 km service on my VW Polo GT TDI-11.-purging-going-.jpg

What you did is basically the same thing but the cleaner gets slightly more diluted when you pour it in the fuel tank (probably the easiest way for regular use). I think using this product once every 30-50k kms should keep the fuel system clean.

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Thanks Gannu for the informative post. Even I contemplate doing routine service on my own. The only thing that stops me is how to get rid of the old oil. How much did the garage charge you for discarding your used oil? Also, for Liqui Moly diesel purge, there are videos that suggest to pour it in fuel filter housing while you change the fuel filter. Any reason why you did not try it?
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Gannu
Superb work.

Few queries on engine oil replacement
1. Did you drain the engine oil in cold or warm condition ?
2. Were you able to measure the drained oil qty ? I'm surprised to see only 4.3 litres for a 1.6 litre.
3. Hope you have checked oil level in warm condition as well.
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For the past couple of years, the service centers actually fill 4.5 liters of oil in these engines. The last few service invoices of my car indicate the same.

I asked my service advisor about it, and he said there was a circular from VW about changing the engine oil quantity from 4.3 liters to 4.5 liters, a few years ago.

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Bravo! Gannu a flood of reactions from my side -

105k driven in less than 4 years
And doing the service all by yourself right down to the perfect costume!!
You are a complete nut case worth admiring.

If you are married then your wife sure has some serious competition.

Best of luck for the miles ahead. Warm regards, Narayan
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Did you give yourself a piece of paper saying that the emissions update was not to be done?


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I'm sure there are a few other things on the service list, like greasing the door hinges.
To be honest, I did not do the brake cleaning or greasing the door hinges etc. as I felt they weren't necessary at this point. There haven't been any complaints so far with the door hinges.

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Since there is no low pressure feed when the fuel filter is disconnected, high pressure pump won't be able to pull the cleaning fluid on its own from the jar.
Thanks! Will have a 12V low pressure fuel pump connected from the bottle to the fuel inlet next time and will share the feedback.

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Wow Gannu, this is too good! Moving your post to its own thread + adding a link to here in your ownership review.
Thanks a lot GTO. Appreciate the gesture.

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Can you also tell us how much this has costed you? I know the prices of these parts but did GST had any impact on the prices of spare. Speaking of GST i wonder what the cost of service will be at ASS now.
The parts cost me Rs. 3500.

Motul 8100 X-cess 5W40 cost me Rs. 3400 and the 1L bottle was Rs. 1034.

So the total price of parts and consumables was Rs. 7934.

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How much did the garage charge you for discarding your used oil?
Nothing! They happily accepted the oil and the parts. They did ask as to why we didn't get the car serviced from the garage. The overalls I had worn at that time (the garage is a stone's throw from my home) answered that on my behalf.

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Also, for Liqui Moly diesel purge, there are videos that suggest to pour it in fuel filter housing while you change the fuel filter. Any reason why you did not try it?
We can't open the fuel filter other than accessing the water drain from the bottom so no way of pouring the contents inside.

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Few queries on engine oil replacement
1. Did you drain the engine oil in cold or warm condition ?
Cold. Honestly kp, I couldn't really be worried about the cold vs. warm condition about the oil replacement. My assumption was that if the engine was cold, all the oil would be collected in the sump and would easily be drained whereas in a warm engine, you'd have oil thrown all around and would take a longer time to drain even though the viscosity is lesser.

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2. Were you able to measure the drained oil qty ?
It filled the entire 4L bottle till the neck (so slightly over 4L) plus all that oily muck that was left in the plastic tray.

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I'm surprised to see only 4.3 litres for a 1.6 litre.
It is the recommended quantity for 1.6 L engine.

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From Volkswagen Workshop Manual.

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3. Hope you have checked oil level in warm condition as well.
I did and it was between the halfway and the top mark of the dipstick.

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For the past couple of years, the service centers actually fill 4.5 liters of oil in these engines. The last few service invoices of my car indicate the same.
Can you please share a copy of the said invoices here? This is an interesting development esp. since you mentioned the circular was dated 'a few years ago'.

The 60K service I had done back in Feb 2016 indicates 4.3L in the invoice and so does the invoice for the 90K service which was dated Feb 2017.

Maybe Thad can check what was the quantity that he was billed for during the last service. He has the 1.6 GT.

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If you are married then your wife sure has some serious competition.
Haha!

My wife knows it, loves my passion and supports me in whatever I do. *I sure as hell hope she's reading this!*

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Can you please share a copy of the said invoices here? This is an interesting development esp. since you mentioned the circular was dated 'a few years ago'.

The 60K service I had done back in Feb 2016 indicates 4.3L in the invoice and so does the invoice for the 90K service which was dated Feb 2017.

Maybe Thad can check what was the quantity that he was billed for during the last service. He has the 1.6 GT.
I just checked the invoices, and it seems the usual dealership, I go to, has billed me for 4.5 liters of engine oil for every service from 2014 until now. In 2015, I had my car serviced at another dealership, and interestingly they have billed me for 4.3 liters of engine oil.

The moment I read your post, I immediately thought of the case of the dealership charging for extra 0.2 liters of engine oil, to increase the billed amount. After checking the invoices, it seems it could be that, unless the automatic oil dispensing system used, dispenses 4.5 liters of engine oil.
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Cold. Honestly kp, I couldn't really be worried about the cold vs. warm condition about the oil replacement. My assumption was that if the engine was cold, all the oil would be collected in the sump and would easily be drained whereas in a warm engine, you'd have oil thrown all around and would take a longer time to drain even though the viscosity is lesser.
Gannu

I would suggest you to drain in warm condition next time.
Oil viscosity would be less, it will flow down faster.
Also the dirt and impurities would have settled down in sump overnight.
All of it will come out if shaken up once before draining.

Motul 8100 is a great choice.
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To avoid the trouble of cleaning the oil tray/pan, its simple if you can use a fairly thicker gauge garbage bag and cover the tray/pan. After draining, you could, simply pack back the used oil and return the bag for disposal.
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  1. Engine oil 5W40 grade - 4.3L (I sourced a 4L can and a 1L can of Motul Xcess 5W40 from Amazon)
It is a bit difficult to source, but Motul 8100 'X-Clean' 5W40 would have been the more appropriate choice (VW 505 01 spec oil). Nevertheless still a great choice of fully synth oil in 5W40.

Wish you more happy miles with the car
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