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Old 30th May 2020, 20:06   #1
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Default DIY: Auto Folding ORVMs (Maruti S-Cross)

Lockdown. 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0.

Kungfu Panda (Jr.) was hibernating for a long time now. April the IInd, my kitty cat, watches over Kungfu Panda (Jr.) from above, and protects him from rodents during his hibernation session.
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Introducing April the IInd
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Boodmo, the automotive component supplier was delivering me items during lock down 4.0, and amazon delivered me the very next day the restrictions were relaxed, the order I had placed some weeks back, the auto folding ORVM module.

Auto folding ORVM Module
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We need 3 of this Splice wire tap to complete the DIY
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So with the components in hand for the DIY, I set out for the operation under the watchful eyes of April the IInd.

Curtains up!!
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The component cost
1. Auto folding ORVM Module - Rs. 1400.00
2. Splice Wire Tap 3 No.s - Rs 75.00
all of Rs 1475 and some 30 minutes of your time for the DIY

Let us get into action.

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Old 30th May 2020, 20:32   #2
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We need to open the driver side door panel, where the mirror controls are connected.

Let me tell you how to open up the driver side door panel without destroying anything

Operation : Opening up the driver side door Panel
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There are two locks and two screws to be removed in opening up the driver door panel, and seven clips to be carefully pulled out.

One lock to the top right of the panel
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Other lock to the top left of the panel
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Push the middle portion of the lock inside, lock releases
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Take out the lock
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A look at the locks
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Be careful not to break the locks, in the event of a broken lock, you have a rattling door panel after installation.

Now let us find out the screws and unscrew them

One screw is hidden inside the door handle
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Slightly pop that cover out, I tried to pull it out. It did not come, since the other side is connected to the panel, so as to prevent loss of that cover
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Remove the screw. You get a view as to how the cover is connected to the panel
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The second screw is hidden behind the door open lever
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Remove that cover to expose the screw
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Remove the screw
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There are seven such clips around the periphery of the panel inside

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Carefully with a little force slowly pull out the panel and the clips one by one, till the door panel is fully detached from the door frame. Some times it might happen that these white clips stay in the door frame and only the panel comes out. In that case carefully unplug the same from the door frame and place them back on the panel, so that it helps you in fitting the panel back nicely and snugly fit with out rattles. If you miss or break one of these, be ready for the rattles.

Slowly slide the door panel out of the door open lever
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Now the door panel is in your hand, but still the connectors are connected to the driver side door switches and mirror control.

Connector - Mirror Control Switch
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Connector - Window lifter, lock unlock switches on the door panel
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You need to pull the connectors out and the door panel is fully detached. Keep it safe somewhere.
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Now that the door panel is out, we are ready for the actual DIY

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The mirror control switch connector side, its here that we plug in the connector from the ORVM module
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You can see the door unlock, window lifter switch module next to the mirror control unit
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Picture showing the three connectors
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The connector we removed form the mirror control unit from the car is the top white one. We connect that to the connector (left white big one) of the module, and the other connector (right white one) we connect back to the mirror control switch socket.

After connecting as described above, now the open white connector will be connected to the mirror control switch before we place the door panel back. Basically its as simple as that!!
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Now let us take a look at the connector and wiring towards the door lock unlock solenoid
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Connector removed to check out the signals.
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Green wire carries the lock signal, and the white wire carries the unlock signal, whenever user requests lock/unlock with his key fob or Key less entry switch.

Now using the splice wire tap, we tap Lock signal (Green wire) for the Auto folding ORVM module (Blue Wire)
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Now using the splice wire tap, we tap Unlock signal (White wire) for the Auto folding ORVM module (Green Wire)
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So the lock unlock signals are now available to the module for decision
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We connect it back
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The module needs a 12 volt connection all the time, and we connect the red wire of the module to a battery line using the third splice wire tap.

That's it. Its done.

Carefully refit the door panel back. Press the seven clips in for a snug fit. Then put the locks, the screws and the covers back in place. It's time for rock and roll now



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Unrelated to the DIY, but since we opened up the panel, wanted to check out the Stock speakers!!

Stock Speaker
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Removed it to check it out
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Its a puny 25W 4 Ohm speaker, part number is visible
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Look at that puny magnet
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Old 30th May 2020, 21:10   #4
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Default re: DIY: Auto Folding ORVMs (Maruti S-Cross)

It's the time to disco

Auto folding ORVM reacting on Lock Unlock Signals from Key Fob


Auto folding ORVM reacting on Lock Unlock Signals from Key Less Entry Switch



That's it guys, DIY over in just 30 minutes.

And time for Kungfu Panda (Jr.) to get back to his hibernation .
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Lock down 5.0 announced, and its another month of hibernation.

Thanks for reading. Happy DIY.
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Thread moved out from the Assembly Line. Thanks for sharing!
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That's it guys, DIY over in just 30 minutes.
That was an easy to understand DIY and thanks for the videos at the end. Just one question, will this work for other Maruti cars that have electronic outside mirror retraction feature available?
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That was an easy to understand DIY and thanks for the videos at the end. Just one question, will this work for other Maruti cars that have electronic outside mirror retraction feature available?
This should work on any cars that have an automatic retraction feature for the ORVMs. All you need to look is for matching the connectors . I tried the same disco on my fortuner (DIY: Toyota Fortuner Type 2 - Auto Dimming IRVM & Auto Folding ORVM)too

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Fantastic DIY & wonderful write up. Nicely compiled & surely will be very useful for those looking to do this. And a really useful mod indeed. High-practicality modifications are always very handy & especially satisfying when done as a DIY. Every-time we use any of them - there is a recurring credit of little happiness about the DIY. Boodmo really is one of the better things that happened to car enthusiasts in recent times!

Car-makers sure must be hating us on forums for doing such things & then writing it down for others to also try. Devalues their car trims and "feature" lists. Also puts a question mark on them as people think why was such a simple thing skimped on in the first place.
Cheers!
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Can we do this by playing around with the VCDS for VW cars? I knew a lot can be tweaked with VCDS in VW group cars. By playing around with VCDS, We don't even need the additional cables and removing panels.
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This should work on any cars that have an automatic retraction feature for the ORVMs. All you need to look is for matching the connectors . I tried the same disco on my fortuner (DIY: Toyota Fortuner Type 2 - Auto Dimming IRVM & Auto Folding ORVM)too
Hi laluks , Any idea if i can make my Type 3(2012) innova OVRM close and open with touch of a button. I know it has only mirror adjustment but i am desperately looking for this add-on feature.

Any pointer do let me know
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Hi laluks,

Great very visual post.
My doubt, when you start driving the car, it will lock the doors once you reach speed.
Won't it close the ORVM's then?
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Dear Sir,
Kindly provide the details of part number and other relevant details, if any for procuring the autofolding ORVM Module.
I also want to incorporate the same into my SCross-Alpha/ April 2018 model.
Thanks.
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Hi laluks,

Great work!
Any idea if it can be done on vehicles that has only electronic adjustment and not the auto fold option?

Thanks, Deepak
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Fantastic DIY & wonderful write up. Nicely compiled & surely will be very useful for those looking to do this. And a really useful mod indeed. High-practicality modifications are always very handy & especially satisfying when done as a DIY. Every-time we use any of them - there is a recurring credit of little happiness about the DIY. Boodmo really is one of the better things that happened to car enthusiasts in recent times!

Car-makers sure must be hating us on forums for doing such things & then writing it down for others to also try. Devalues their car trims and "feature" lists. Also puts a question mark on them as people think why was such a simple thing skimped on in the first place.
Cheers!
Thanks Reinhard. One would wonder what is about 1500 saved on each vehicle, may be its the volumes and less variants for manageability. Anyways!

Boodmo for Maruti works fine. I've had hard times with Honda parts. Toyota, if I am lazy to go to my Service Centre to order, I do that on Boodmo. Normally service centre in Bangalore receive in some 3 to 4 days, boodmo takes a month to deliver.

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Can we do this by playing around with the VCDS for VW cars? I knew a lot can be tweaked with VCDS in VW group cars. By playing around with VCDS, We don't even need the additional cables and removing panels.
I have no experience tampering german cars, may be Gannu_1 can comment

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Hi laluks , Any idea if i can make my Type 3(2012) innova OVRM close and open with touch of a button. I know it has only mirror adjustment but i am desperately looking for this add-on feature.

Any pointer do let me know
Like we discussed in the past, the first and foremost requirement here is the availability of electrically fold-able ORVMs in your car. If it is not, but a manual one, then we start with first changing the manual to an electrically controlled one. This can be expensive and for Toyota, the electrical ORVMs are about 9K a piece, and a Switch Assembly for its control some 6K and of course the wiring part.

Second requirement is the availability of auto lock unlock feature, which is already there.

Once that prerequisite is taken care then this auto folding mirror can be installed.

But the costs are almost touching 30K for you to add this now. I don't know whether its VFM in this case, but very much doable.

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Hi laluks,

Great very visual post.
My doubt, when you start driving the car, it will lock the doors once you reach speed.
Won't it close the ORVM's then?
No, locking from inside with the lock/unlock switch and auto lock feature on reaching 10mph/16Kmph if enabled will not trigger this action. The signals are different.

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Dear Sir,
Kindly provide the details of part number and other relevant details, if any for procuring the autofolding ORVM Module.
I also want to incorporate the same into my SCross-Alpha/ April 2018 model.
Thanks.
Muniswami S
I picked it up from amazon just for fun. There are many suppliers for the same. Another one is here.

Only thing I am worried and time will have to tell is how much it drains the battery, since it is always connected to battery power. Such cheap gizmos, I really doubt if it is tested for battery drains and stuffs like that. You really don't want to go to a dead battery on an urgent day you need the car. Since I have back up cars, I am just fooling around.

All you have to know is the Lock and Unlock signal input for the modules you pick, and where to tap the lock and unlock signal from your vehicle.

If you fancy you can do auto folding ORVM along with auto window pane closing. I did not like it since it closes windows one by one, and can be dangerous on cars without anti pinch if kids are around. I would not advice this, Safety is not sure. Many kits are available, one such is here.


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Hi laluks,

Great work!
Any idea if it can be done on vehicles that has only electronic adjustment and not the auto fold option?

Thanks, Deepak
Electrically adjustable ORVMS, with electrical folding feature is a prerequisite. Else first DIY would be to make it electrically fold-able.

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Thank you Sir, for the reply.
Also, Noted your opinion and concerns with respect to this DIY project.
I will buy the item soon and will carry out the work taking your "posted information" as the guide.
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