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Old 4th November 2018, 18:48   #61
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The road was wet under the front right wheel, ABS kicked-in for a while. I applied brake slowly as another car was tailgating my car. Is the following statement correct? Vehicle going straight gets priority over the stationary vehicle in the opposite lane, waiting to turn right...
Vehicle going straight has priority. One is not supposed to slow the flow of traffic and the person turning has to wait for gap in traffic to turn.

It is only in a round about where the priority is for vehicle within the roundabout and never for u-turn.

This is where rules are followed.

What you have here is the person bullying his way into a flowing traffic.
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A few points.

1. Cabbie was already inside the junction circle.
Cabbie was poking his nose into traffic and just missed hitting the rear bumper of the WagonR. OP was travelling straight. He is under no obligation to stop and has the right of way here.

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2. You are required to slow down at an intersection.
Slow down doesn't mean to stop and give way for someone who is waiting to make a turn. That slowing down is defensive driving to avoid hitting morons like that cabbie.

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3. You are required to give way to the traffic approaching from your right-hand side.
This rule is applicable ONLY for roundabouts, not for intersections. The cabbie has no right to shove his car into oncoming traffic like the way he did, unless there was a cop asking the OP to stop / or a red traffic light at the intersection.

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The Motor Vehicle Act is a good place to start with. Please keep in mind that rules are subjected to interpretation.

It takes a while to read through the entire MV act but this circular was part of a gazette publication it appears and covers a few things.

In my first trip to Ooty, I was surprised at the way everyone made way to vehicles going up-hill. I found our later that it is a rule, not just good manners.
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In my first trip to Ooty, I was surprised at the way everyone made way to vehicles going up-hill. I found our later that it is a rule, not just good manners.
I don't think this is true on the ground any more, my experience on the kalhatti ghat has been very different. The local vehicles are aggressive and don't make way for uphill traffic at all. The same situation on the climb to kumily from both, Kerala and TN side, the local drivers are terrible and have absolutely no road manners.

Giving way to uphill traffic is the norm, just that it's not practised.
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The cabbie has no right to shove his car into oncoming traffic like the way he did...
Well, he did so in his infinite wisdom. And once he did that, he got the right of way; which means that we should have stopped and waited for him to complete his foolish manoeuvre.

3 seconds into the video, the cab is halfway into our lane. We are still far enough to stop comfortably. What we shouldn't have done is to jump into the adjacent lane and put the vehicles there at risk. Two wrongs don't make a right.

This same scenario plays out perhaps hundreds of times at every break in the median of arterial roads in Bangalore. So common that we have all been inured to it. There are places where unless you do exactly what the cabbie did, you wouldn't ever be able to make the turn (eg: eastbound Varthur road to Vibgyor school turn at Thubarahalli).
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Thanks for reviewing the video and providing your feedback guys. One additional information I would like to add, it is not a roundabout nor an intersection, it is just a gap in the median. It can be considered as 'T' as the road on the left of my car is merging on the main road at 90 degree.

Difference in opinion clearly indicates that the rules are not well written to provide the same understanding to everyone.

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which means that we should have stopped and waited for him to complete his foolish manoeuvre.

What we shouldn't have done is to jump into the adjacent lane and put the vehicles there at risk. Two wrongs don't make a right.
3 years back I applied brake suddenly because someone darted on the road in front of the car ahead of me. I was at safe distance and was able to stop 2 feet before the rear bumper of the car ahead of me. A girl on her Active rear-ended on my car. The way we react is based on our foolishness and experience I guess. This time, as I already mentioned, there was a car tailgating me.

Yes, I agree, Two wrongs don't make a right.
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... This time, as I already mentioned, there was a car tailgating me.
When being tailgated, I try to make sure that I have stopping distance for two. Of course, as soon as one increases the space in front, someone fills it, and it becomes a constant process of dropping back.

But I have had too many rear bumper and hatch dents!
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The road was wet under the front right wheel, ABS kicked-in for a while. I applied brake slowly as another car was tailgating my car. Is the following statement correct? Vehicle going straight gets priority over the stationary vehicle in the opposite lane, waiting to turn right.
You get priority in this situation. Don't listen to people who tell you otherwise.
But we live in a country where safe driving sometimes means forgetting about things like 'right of way.'
So, the other members pointed out defensive driving are correct too.
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Legal definitions of right of way are important, but so is the philosophy of live and let live. The difference between cutting in and merging may be a matter of attitude.
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True everywhere in the world but especially in India: never presume right of way at the cost of survival. No use having right of way if you end up maimed or killed while asserting it. Follow the rules, but let common sense overrule it when necessary.
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never presume right of way at the cost of survival. No use having right of way if you end up maimed or killed while asserting it.
Posted many times before, but evergreen, one of my dad's lessons. He taught me this one when, knee-high to a grasshopper, I thought that right of way was mine and all i needed on a British pedestrian crossing...
He was right, dead right, as he toddled along,
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.
(I'm sure my dad would be delighted to know that I'm still quoting that almost sixty years later )
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Right of way is useless if you get your vehicle bashed out of shape....better be safe than sorry.
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