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Originally Posted by jagzrk But now, I will risk saying that...you were very close to that truck.
...avoiding tail-gating should be a primary concern as its possible to get a good amount of time to react by maintaining a healthy distance.
...I am literally threatened on the Mumbai Pune expressway when some guys tail-gate me at 80-110 speed. |
@jagzrk: You are right about my getting too close to the truck. It was a video from a time when I didn't know much better, and yes, if the truck in front had rammed headlong into the oncoming truck, I would have been toast. As I said, it certainly was a close shave!
I had subsequently explained what should have been looked for, in a post on this thread itself, and I quote...
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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller As I mentioned in the beginning, this is a teaching video that I use when conducting Low Risk Safe Driver Training...
This video was from a time when I did presumption-based driving (before I received my training). I've survived crash-free for 20 years of driving, but close shaves such as these happened once or twice a year. I was not happy about it, so I underwent specialized training in Australia which I hoped would eliminate whatever risky behaviour I had on the road. That's when I learnt about the different types of driving:
With evidence-based driving, you would notice (and I missed noticing then), the truck being overtaken suddenly tucking into the back of the 3-wheeler and braking hard (no trucker ever does that without REALLY good reason). I presumed that the overtaken truck was being ultra-polite, and the overtaking truck would go through safely - this being a divided road with no chance of oncoming traffic - and I can follow him, while continuing to presume that if there is any obstruction, he will cut in to the left, and I'll follow him to the left too (which I did).
Today, after being trained, I would notice the brake lights of the overtaken truck come on, try to think like that truck driver, and come up with the conclusion based on his unusual behaviour that he is simply positioning himself in a safe location due to something he can see ahead (and I cannot) - and hence I'd have braked and pulled in behind the truck being overtaken, not accelerated out behind the truck that was overtaking.
There are hundreds of such small bits of evidence that one needs to look for (and be trained to look for) while driving, to minimize risk while driving. And that's what I learnt during my training, have been practising over and over and over, and that's what I now do - train people to drive safer.
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It's very easy for armchair critics to say "You were driving in a very risky manner", as I have been told by many, here and on the video page itself. What matters is, can we interpret that video and turn it into a learning exercise for the future? I hope the explanation about evidence-based driving that the video conveys is now clear to critics of the video. |
Now, with reference to the FB video where this discussion took place (link:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=823948424324181), let's also do an analysis here.
Between 0:08 and 0:13, it is clearly evident that the Tempo Traveller (TT) is not going to have a clear lane to speed past the bus - there's a slow trailer blocking the right lane. So the TT puts on his left indicator to try to squeeze ahead of the bus, and the bus driver is irritated enough to speed up and block off the TT.
As he accelerates, the bus driver realizes (0:25) that something is blocking his lane, and he hits the brakes hard - you can see the nose dip and the tail lift up with the deceleration. Also watch the Swift tailgating the bus braking hard too - so that also means swerving over to the left lane is not an option.
Now, bearing in mind that heavy vehicles like buses and trucks invariably refuse to bring their vehicles to a complete stop unless there is REALLY GOOD reason for it, there was already enough evidence by 0:29 that he was likely to swerve into the right lane abruptly (look at his front wheels getting closer to the lane marking). So there is a warning of 3 seconds or so before the actual impact at 0:32-0:33.
Well before this time, Raghunath Srivatsa should also have noticed that he had a tailgater, and needed double the stopping distance to prevent being rear-ended - and hence, he should have dropped further back rather than try to follow through behind the TT, braking only at the last moment. The inevitable rear-ending had to happen.
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Originally Posted by JASMEET MATTOO The top speed at the road is 50 kmph and its a three lane road. I must have been driving between 40-50 in the middle lane.
...I sped up a bit, kept my car in front of him for five long minutes not allowing him to go anywhere (on his speed at least). Then gave him way. |
People habitually drive at 70+ km/h on that road even though the limit is 50 - and the cops with radars, when they are stationed there, ignore speeds up to 60 km/h.
Given those circumstances, maintaining 40-50 km/h is probably not a great idea. A minimum speed that is comfortable for other traffic too, reduces the chances of being rear-ended/sideswiped as an act of road rage by other madmen in bigger vehicles.