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Old 23rd October 2020, 00:15   #181
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when did he confirm semi would be available?

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Tesla India configuration will be available in January. Elon has confirmed via Twitter about this.


in spite of having installed capacity of building 210,000 cars in Q4'20 (And some 10000 cars in inventory), Tesla says they will have difficulty selling merely 181020 cars in Q4'20

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when did he confirm semi would be available?

in spite of having installed capacity of building 210,000 cars in Q4'20 (And some 10000 cars in inventory), Tesla says they will have difficulty selling merely 181020 cars in Q4'20
Sources please.Is that 210k number came from an imaginative mind.

What has the semi to do with India configuration?

The below article says installed capacity of 170020. By the way the number 181020 is to get their target of 500K cars in 2020, despite covid they are almost there.

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Here is what Tesla needs to do in Q4 to reach 500,000:

production target: 170,020
deliveries target: 181,020
https://insideevs.com/news/450201/te...s-2020-target/

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when did he confirm semi would be available?

in spite of having installed capacity of building 210,000 cars in Q4'20 (And some 10000 cars in inventory), Tesla says they will have difficulty selling merely 181020 cars in Q4'20
2019 and 2022 depending on what the when means.

That's a mere articulation of their target - half a million vehicles by q4.

Tesla will launch in India, they see a huge market and a sizeable pool of talented engineers, which according to Musk is the only real constraint they have.
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Tesla would start exporting China-made Model 3 cars to more than 10 European countries this month.
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delivering vehicles made in its Shanghai factory in December, will export China-made cars this month to countries including Germany, France, Italy and Switzerland

These cars could be India bound too, whenever Tesla decides to start marketing its cars here.



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These cars could be India bound too, whenever Tesla decides to start marketing its cars here.



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No Thanks Elon , make it here and then sell, its ok if that will delay the launch further.. We shall wait and are not going anywhere. Dont want a backdoor in Tesla's software in cars to be exported to India. Cant trust them anymore.
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Maharashtra Govt. in talks with Tesla for investment

The government of Maharashtra is in talks with Tesla for potential investment in the state.

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The state tourism minister confirmed through a tweet that he along with the minister for Industries had discussions with the Tesla team over video call to invite them to Maharashtra.

Last month, it was reported that discussions had taken place between the government of Karnataka and Tesla to set up a research centre in Bangalore. If the talks are successful, India will become the second country outside the USA where Tesla will have a research centre.

Elon Musk - CEO of Tesla, has already stated that the company is hoping to enter the Indian market. In 2016, the carmaker had opened bookings for the Model 3 in India but has not delivered the cars yet. The order configurator for India is likely to be released in January 2021.

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Sources please.Is that 210k number came from an imaginative mind. ...

The below article says installed capacity of 170020. By the way the number 181020 is to get their target of 500K cars in 2020, despite covid they are almost there.

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the installed capacity number came from Tesla's own Q3 results release, signed by your dear Musk himself - and he does have an imaginative mind, so the answer to that question is YES

Tesla has to build about 167000 cars this quarter (rest they have in inventory), just to meet that number, and they are finding it hard, in spite of claiming they can actually build 210000with their present installed capacity


Beginning of Q3 also - they had a capacity to build 172500 cars per quarter, they still built only about 145000, and sold only about 139500

So much for "Tesla is production constrained" and "Tesla sells every car it builds" (the last part - even Hindustan Motors sold every Ambassador it built till the year it finally shut it down)








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No Thanks Elon , make it here and then sell, its ok if that will delay the launch further.. We shall wait and are not going anywhere. Dont want a backdoor in Tesla's software in cars to be exported to India. Cant trust them anymore.
He would be more than happy to build another factory in India - as long as the Indian tax payer pays for that factory



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Maharashtra Govt. in talks with Tesla for investment
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Last month, it was reported that discussions had taken place between the government of Karnataka and Tesla to ..
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meanwhile Tesla's German factory's water supply was cut couple of weeks ago after Tesla tried to armtwist the authorities and then didn't pay for water.

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signed by your dear Musk himself.
Why bother with numbers or sources, when you can label anyone who disagree with you as a Tesla fanboy. Stereotyping this way denies equal opportunity for rational discussion. I do not want to get into this discussion further.
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Why bother with numbers or sources, when you can label anyone who disagree with you as a Tesla fanboy. Stereotyping this way denies equal opportunity for rational discussion. I do not want to get into this discussion further.
I didn't label you anything - read the posts again, and let's keep it civil.

The numbers I have given are what Tesla has reported to the SEC - if you don't agree with the numbers then you are calling Musk a liar: he has to certify the numbers before they go to SEC.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/438...l-presentation you can find it here or on SEC EDGAR 8K filings for Q3

The number you gave is correct too, you just seemed to have misinterpreted them: insideevs.com is saying that Tesla needs to build 170k cars to reach 500k deliveries, not that that's Tesla's capacity.

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MH Government is on a PR drive, hence its best to hold your horses.
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MH Government is on a PR drive, hence its best to hold your horses.
Any Gigafactory India would cost a couple of Billion, which Musk would expect the govt to give him: I don't think the center ha that kind of money to donate, let alone MH
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I am not sure how he can build a huge factory when he has one next door in China. And one in Germany for Europe.
The Indian market by itself is also not that huge to have one of our own and exporting from here after getting all part from China is also not feasible.

I think maybe a R&D unit might be the right thing.
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Any Gigafactory India would cost a couple of Billion, which Musk would expect the govt to give him: I don't think the center ha that kind of money to donate, let alone MH
Did Germany give 2 billion dollars to Tesla for the Berlin factory? Did China give billions of dollars to Tesla for the Shanghai factory? Please share credible info if you have any.

Coming to the Indian factory, I don't think it's feasible for Tesla to set up a factory in India targeting mainly the Indian market. At best they will set up a CKD assembly unit to avoid high CBU taxes. This is what Hyundai did for Kona EV. In the future maybe when Tesla releases a lower-end model, they may set up a full-scale factory to serve India and other Asian markets along with Australia. This will still be 4-5 years away.
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I am not sure how he can build a huge factory when he has one next door in China. And one in Germany for Europe.
The Indian market by itself is also not that huge to have one of our own and exporting from here after getting all part from China is also not feasible.

I think maybe a R&D unit might be the right thing.
I am not 100% sure about full fledged R&D too. At best it might be a bit of R&D and whole lot of back office operations. A gigafactory in India is not even in the picture - we simply do not have volumes for such an expensive car to warranty a full blown factory for our market. I think Tesla China can easily take care of volumes in India and other smaller markets like Australia.
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Can you imagine how insufferable and egoistic an Indian Tesla owner will be . I think it'll be IIT*10.
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