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Old 3rd April 2019, 16:16   #391
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Dana Spicer shows off its new electric propulsion system in real life driving - based on a Peterbilt 220, with motors from Dana TM4, integrated by Nordresa:

https://www.truckinginfo.com/327822/...ng-to-be-a-hit

PS: Video from previous link.

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EV's that are expected to launch in India in couple of years.

Almost all manufacturers have a plan on introducing EV's in India.
On the centre of the drive is the customs duty benefit on the import of components for electric cars.

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The Indian government has recently reduced customs duty on the import of components for electric vehicles from a range of 15-30% to 10-15%.
- Maruti Suzuki plans to launch the electric version of its compact hatchback Wagon R in 2020. Moreover, the hatchback would also be shared with Toyota Kirloskar Motors in India market.

- Hyundai Motor India has also confirmed that it will launch electric SUV Kona in the second half of 2019. Expected to be priced between Rs 20-25 lakhs.

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However, Under FAME-II scheme, there hasn't been any incentives for the personal buyer of electric cars.

The scheme will support 55000 electric cars used for commercial purposes.
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When Toyota opens 24k of its priced patents, it means they see the end of the ICE car if they do not do something this drastic!
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/3/18...s-royalty-free
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India can save Rs 17,000 crore if electric vehicles hit the road by 2030: NITI Aayog and RMI
https://yourstory.com/2019/04/electr...-aayog-savings

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Thinktank NITI Aayog and the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) have launched a report on the opportunities for the automobile sector and the government under the Faster Adoption and Manufacturing of Electric Vehicles II (FAME II) scheme.

Titled ‘India’s Electric Mobility Transformation: Progress to Date and Future Opportunities’, the report details the oil and carbon savings vehicles under FAME II could deliver.
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New Zealand tipped to reach 100% electric vehicle sales by 2030

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Analysts there are expecting New Zealand to reach 100 per cent of new vehicles by 2030, as part of a plan to ensure that 90 per cent of the entire fleet, if not 100 per cent, is electric by 2050.

The Productivity Commission recommended a range of options to encourage EVs, including a “feebate” scheme, in which importers would either pay a fee or receive a rebate, depending on the emissions intensity of the imported vehicle.

Currently, the country has a target of 64,000 EVs by 2021, which it is supporting by exempting EVs from road user charges (worth around $NZ600 a year)

The Productivity Commission also recommends funding to help fill gaps in the charging network that are commercially unviable for the private sector.
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If this is the case then how will government earn revenue? Now fuel is taxed heavily, almost 100%. I don't think they'll take this much hit on revenue.
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If this is the case then how will government earn revenue? Now fuel is taxed heavily, almost 100%. I don't think they'll take this much hit on revenue.
The way our economy is developing we may be able to take the hit.

An alternative (possibly unacceptable) will be to increase taxation on Electricity! The trend is inevitable, so we have to work out work arounds and solutions rather than bury our heads in the sand!
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Looks like interesting times ahead. Let hope the govt finds other ways of making up the deficit rather than tax electricity more, which might prove to be counter productive.

One silver lining could be the solar power generation, which might just be able to make India energy surplus. Hopefully some of that might be used to power those charging infrastructure. But this is all wishful thinking probably.
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If this is the case then how will government earn revenue? Now fuel is taxed heavily, almost 100%. I don't think they'll take this much hit on revenue.

I believe the benefits/savings would be indirect. If we are able to shift majority of our vehicles towards EV the expenditure on health due to pollution would certainly come down. Apart from that our import bill would also reduce, thereby narrowing the trade deficit to some extent. However, the complete picture would be known when such a comprehensive study, specifically aimed towards Indian market, is undertaken.
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Renault has multiple EV programs in progress for several countries including China, but will go slow on launching EV's in India.

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Demand uncertainty and a lack of clarity over government’s assistance program are two main reasons why Renault, one of world’s leading developer of electric vehicles (EV), will go slow on its introduction in India.
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Renault has multiple EV programs in progress for several countries including China, but will go slow on launching EV's in India.
Only way these traditional companies invest in EVs is to either by govt strict regulations/fines or by competition. China is starting carbon credit system which need to be met by each and every automaker. EU from 2020 will be fining companies that don't meet emission targets. These fines will be in hundreds of millions dollars and could into profits completely.

In India, we don't have such systems in place, so all these companies are trying to put the blame on lack of policies. They are not interested in releasing EVs in India unless its compulsory and want to drag with petrol/diesel vehicles as long as possible.

India EV transition will happen in either of the below 2 scenarios:

Slow: Companies like VW, Renault, Nissan, Hyundai, etc... will launch EVs in India only after the rest of the world's EV transition is inevitable. In this scenario, even after the launch, the adoption will be slow as EVs will be overpriced.

Fast: Entry of Chinese majors like SAIC (MG motors), Great Wall Motors, Geely, BYD, etc... and release of EVs at affordable prices will push the rest of traditional companies to bring their EVs here quickly. This is happening to some extent in bus segment by BYD which entered India few years back and quickly grabbing the market.
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Reported fires threaten China's electric-car quest - Quantity over Quality?

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Somewhere in Shanghai, a camera caught what looks like a Model S manufactured by Tesla Inc. bursting into flames in a parking garage
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Hours later, NIO Inc., a Shanghai-based NASDAQ-listed electric vehicle maker, announced that one of its ES8 models had burst into flames during a repair
True, as with any new technology, teething problems are to be expected.

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But China’s government-sponsored largesse and highly protected market have clearly exacerbated the problem. By one estimate, there are “as many as 500” NEV startups in China, most of which have little to no experience in making or marketing automobiles.
To restore the confidence of Chinese consumers, however, will require entirely new policies and standards.

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Tesla updated their flagship cars Model S and Model X with new motors, faster charging, adaptive suspension and more.

Here are major highlights of the new updates:
  • Model S now has a range of 370 miles (~595 KMs), more than 10% improvement in range with same 100 KWh battery pack. Earlier the range was 335 miles (~539 KMs). Performance also improved. 0-60 mph is now in 3.7 seconds vs 4.1 seconds earlier for long range.
  • Model X long range now has a range of 325 miles (~523 KMs) Vs 295 miles earlier with same 100 KWh battery pack. 0-60 mph now in 4.4s vs 4.7s earlier.
  • Drive unit updates include Permanent magnet synchronous reluctance motor, silicon carbide power electronics, and improved lubrication, cooling, bearings, and gear designs. Earlier both motors used to be induction motors while now the front motors is changed to permanent magnet synchronous motor.
  • Model S/X are now capable of charging up to 200KW of recently announced V3 superchargers and 145 KW on V2 superchargers. Its 50% improvement over earlier models.
  • Existing Tesla Model S/X owners who wish to upgrade to new S/X performance variants will get $20,000 ludicrous upgrade for free.

More details on drive train update, adaptive suspension and other improvements in the below official blog post:
https://www.tesla.com/blog/longest-r...s-even-farther
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Even as the EV scene is just in nascent stage - here is Tesla's warning!

Tesla is worried that there soon will be some upcoming global shortages of minerals used to make batteries for electric cars, like nickel, copper, and lithium.

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Tesla’s global supply manager for battery metals, told a closed-door Washington conference of miners, regulators and lawmakers that the automaker sees a shortage of key EV minerals coming in the near future.
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Many companies are worried about cobalt, which is not widely mined. Tesla uses less cobalt on average in its batteries than the rest of the industry.

Instead, Tesla is more concerned with nickel even though its more widely mined around the world
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Ford and Mahindra are developing Mahindra-Ford Aspire EV. It will be based on Aspire sedan that is being exported to South Africa from India. It will be full length (4.2m) one instead of under 4m model that's being sold here, since EVs attract flat 12% GST irrespective of length. It will have 60 KW motor, 25 KWh battery with expected real world range of 150 KM.

Looks like this is solely being developed for meeting FAME II subsidy guidelines. To get the subsidy FAME II for cars, it should have minimum range of 140 KMs and should be only sold as fleet vehicle.

https://www.autocarindia.com/auto-fe...se-look-412673
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