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Old 21st July 2019, 10:00   #436
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Isn't this like taking one step back? Look at the thousands of crores they spend on trying to clean the air in Cities like Delhi and Bangalore. Citizens deserve to breathe clean air. They should go all out to bring in the EV revolution



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Well its just a matter of time, once EV's becomes popular the tax revenue collection from petrol and diesel will go down and then government will be forced to plug in the revenue deficit by increasing the taxes on electricity
This is my fear. However, electricity with multiple tariffs even though it is here, may not be possible here. Also, most domestic connections (1-5kVA or even 10kVA) may not be able to cope. Let us see how they manage.
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Isn't this like taking one step back? Look at the thousands of crores they spend on trying to clean the air in Cities like Delhi and Bangalore. Citizens deserve to breathe clean air. They should go all out to bring in the EV revolution
This news is not new. FAME II has no subsidy private cars. It has 10,000 crore budget for subsidizing different types of vehicles as shown below. This amount will be used to subsidize 10 lakh 2-wheelers (private), 5 lakh 3-wheelers, 55,000 cars (commercial fleet), ~7,000 buses.

With limited budget, limited vehicles that can be subsidized its a very good decision to limit it to public transport vehicles rather than private cars with low usage.

Private cars will still get benefit of 5% GST vs 29%-50% petrol/diesel cars. In addition up to 1.5 lakh tax exemption on loan interest.
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Ford showing off their prototype pulling more than a million pounds of cargo


They will also follow it up with statements about how EV Trucks are not feasible, and are meant for the distant future.
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I have a very stupid question.
A lot of manufacturers are launching Electric Vehicles.
Do they have a standard charging connection for all manufacturers or is each unique.
If it is standard, then customer can replace the vehicle without replacing the charging connector.

It is a stupid question but thanks in advance for replies.
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I have a very stupid question.
A lot of manufacturers are launching Electric Vehicles.
Do they have a standard charging connection for all manufacturers or is each unique.
If it is standard, then customer can replace the vehicle without replacing the charging connector.

It is a stupid question but thanks in advance for replies.
The outlet to draw lots of Amperage is what one needs at home. In the US it's called NEMA 14-50. This allows you to draw 50 AMPS. Obviously you need the corresponding fuse in the switchbox.

Cars come with a proprietary cable for this NEMA 14-50 outlet. Think of it as the special outlet you have for your water heater/geezer/boiler with it's own dedicated fuse/circuit breaker.
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The outlet to draw lots of Amperage is what one needs at home. In the US it's called NEMA 14-50. This allows you to draw 50 AMPS. Obviously you need the corresponding fuse in the switchbox.

Cars come with a proprietary cable for this NEMA 14-50 outlet. Think of it as the special outlet you have for your water heater/geezer/boiler with it's own dedicated fuse/circuit breaker.
Thank you for the reply.
Cleared my doubt.
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A colleague who already owns four four wheelers and drives them like there is no tomorrow, is on the verge of purchasing a Mahindra e-Verito.

At fourteen lakh rupees on road in my city, and with the daily commute being around 80km, I think it makes no sense.

Another reason for my skepticism is the erratic power supply schedule in the Malnad region: the said colleague resides in a coffee estate 20km from workplace. Though the place is by the side of a state highway, power interruptions are rather too frequent.

She is currently engulfed by the environmental activist mode of thought and hence isn't batting an eyelid before taking out a car loan of close to a million rupees. She believes the (purported) zero operations cost post purchase will more than compensate the heavy initial investment.

I disagree.

Any thoughts?
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Rivian shows off turning on a dime like a tank. Very impressive. ICE trucks better watch out!
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Electric, natural gas autos find few takers in Kerala.

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Even eight months after the decision to issue city permit to 3,000 green autorickshaws, only 11 people have bought electricity and CNG-run autorickshaws.
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Ford showing off their prototype pulling more than a million pounds of cargo
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Looks like Ford's investment in Rivian is already paying dividends

But threads like this with their "but... but..." excuses make me go smh.

Often times the most difficult obstacle we face is not the tech, but our minds
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The outlet to draw lots of Amperage is what one needs at home. In the US it's called NEMA 14-50. This allows you to draw 50 AMPS. Obviously you need the corresponding fuse in the switchbox.

Cars come with a proprietary cable for this NEMA 14-50 outlet. Think of it as the special outlet you have for your water heater/geezer/boiler with it's own dedicated fuse/circuit breaker.
I think there are two or three connectors going round. I hop no more emerge. You need two separate connectors to cater for AC and DC. I think right now two are for AC and one DC.
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I think there are two or three connectors going round. I hop no more emerge. You need two separate connectors to cater for AC and DC. I think right now two are for AC and one DC.
I am not familiar with what is being promoted in India on the utility side (for homes). For the US, there are many NEMA connectors. All houses have NEMA 14-30 for clothes dryer. This can draw 30A. For RVs, electric cooking range have always been using NEMA 14-50. This can draw 50A. This is the outlet being used by EVs these days. EVs come with a cable for such an outlet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector#NEMA_14

At the other end of this cable where the connector connects to the EV - it is rather chaotic with manufacturers forming alliances, promoting proprietary tech, and what not. ChadeMo, Tesla, CCS being the popular ones. I think you were talking about this. I agree, too many of such connectors is not good. Users will end up carrying adapters for each vendor.

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Ford showing off their prototype pulling more than a million pounds of cargo

They will also follow it up with statements about how EV Trucks are not feasible, and are meant for the distant future.
I guess, I was easily impressed by the spectacle. After all this is something any truck can do.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car..._j88O9rWUuILNw

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Noida to setup charging stations. Snapshot of the news article attached.

Charging will cost 10/- a unit and a full charge would cost around 170/- and take 90 minutes. I am thinking of the future, given the population and therefore number of cars, how will logistics work? And, since it’s mostly flats in Noida and nearby, even housing societies will have to install chargers otherwise would be difficult to cater to the sheer volume.
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