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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Not a subject matter expert but i always felt that one can anyway start with similar infrastructure that powers electric trains on our roads and connect public transports to this grid. One of the main delays in adopting EV are the Battery technology and this live grid can offset this. And my commonsense tells me that building this infrastructure is much cheaper than investing on Metro/mono rail etc. |
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I think electric cars have a long way to go in India, and they'll increase in popularity only when: 1. Battery tech improves even further (it is every year) 2. EVs go mass market and the price / benefits ratio is comparable to regular cars 3. Charging stations are as ubiquitous as petrol pumps 4. The charging is quick! Our country's adoption rate is very slow. Take hybrids for instance. They've been around since like forever and are best suited to our low speed stop-and-go traffic conditions. But there's not one proper hybrid this side of 30 lakhs. | ||
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In a country obsessed with "sasta and achchha" and "kitna deti hai", where majority of best selling cars are all under rupees 10 lakhs, unless initial price is brought down to more affordable(read "sasta aur achchha") levels, the EV and hybrid gravy train will keep languishing on the platform and will never start it's journey, let alone reach anywhere. ![]() | |
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Charging problem needs a radical solution in India, which I am hopeful will come through sooner than later. Last edited by Prafful_Rathod : 5th June 2017 at 15:06. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Birdies are chirping that the Tiago electric, in it's LHD avatar, will enter production by next month-end. Tata is probably targeting the export markets first, to gauge the response to the newest iteration of it's contemporary bestseller. |
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| ![]() Considering that the Mahindra E2OPLUS is 60KG heavier than the Tiago, an identical battery/motor arrangement should suffice. This might just be the right car to start the electric car revolution. |
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| ![]() @Mods, There's a factual error in the article published on teambhp latest news regarding this topic @ https://www.team-bhp.com/news/rumour...export-markets The article says "The main reason behind Tata first targeting export markets with the Tiago hatchback is probably the high taxes that have been made applicable on hybrid and electric vehicles after the implementation of GST in India. This has made it difficult to price an electric car competitively in the country. " While I don't know about the exact reason, I definitely know for sure that the tax on pure electric vehicles has certainly reduced after GST. Only the tax (GST) for hybrid vehicles has increased. Can you please correct this? So, all electric Tiago pricing would not have been negatively affected. Here's a link to an article wherein this is clarified: http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...on-405230.aspx Last edited by naut : 6th July 2017 at 13:59. Reason: edits |
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| ![]() As @naut mentioned, full electric vehicles attract much lower taxes (12%) compared to other types and segments. Only hybrid vehicles attract highest slab (43%). I think Tata is delaying India release because of no charging infrastructure. Tata should release it as early as possible. Along with difficulties in the initial phases, they will also get first mover advantage. |
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Also, the point our beloved Govt. should be concentrating on is uniform plugin charging stations/Standards, so that irrespective of the car manufacturer/model the charging station should be useful (more like a micro USB charging pin standard that is followed by 99% mobile companies.). A simple car like Tiago/Celerio that gives me a range of 150 KMs on a single charge and which I can plug into any 16 Amps socket that is found across India, and costs around 6-7 lakhs (on road) would be an instantaneous hit at least in metros/cities. What say folks? Last edited by G V Krishna : 6th July 2017 at 20:01. Reason: added a missing word. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() The Tiago Electric is scheduled to be unveiled to the public at LCV 2017, the UK’s low carbon vehicle event convention at Millbrook, UK, which will be held between 6th & 7th September, 2017, as per this tweet posted by Tata Motors European Technical Center: ![]() |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() converting a car from IC to electric is a trivial exercise for a large manufacturer - there is an episode of wheeler dealers where they take some classic, and take it to a firm that specializes in electric car conversions - battery packs, motors and controllers are all available off the shelf for retrofit, and its just a matter of making some adapter to fit to the transmission. The show showed a maserati biturbo converted to electric, and on top of that, they improved the performance of the car from the factory for a 10K or so cost. The point being, creating an EV conversion of a car is not a big achievement for a mass manufacturer. as demonstrated - these retrofit firms do it day in & day out. Heck, Tata themselves have "launched" some 5 or 6 EV's so far. I see these random Sport and EV editions of tata cars as nothing but branding/marketing exercises, and begin to start ignoring tata's cries of sporty and electric 'wolf' |
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| ![]() A couple of years back, I had a very negative mindset about electric cars, but I am changing now. This does look like a great start for Tata, finally they are acting fast and will be in a better position when the time arrives to switch to electric cars. (in Europe/UK its already happening) Coming to Indian market, this being price sensitive, it will be interesting how Tata prices its EV. Infrastructure is still an issue, but think about it, if I have a parking space at home and have a charging point there, I wouldn't need any other charging point if I were to use it for office commutes or city runabouts. Small EVs make a very strong case for themselves. For long drives, I might hire an Uber cab or Zoomcar. To summarise, if internal combustion engine cars get expensive and EVs get cheaper, we are looking at a radical change in car ownership. |
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| ![]() Greenhorn, as you see above I have not added any comments on the post. Just added it as I read it. I have my doubts too, esp the timing of the launch, if at all. I wouldn't call it a marketing gimmick or brand exercise either as most reporters try to assume things over and above what was quoted in the hope of sensationalism. All I can probably add is that when the EV scene kicks off, provided the Government allows it to, Tata will be there in the picture from the start with whatever knowledge they have gained through the years. |
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