[pogo0120]

On a different scale, I beg to differ with most people here. I think, this is a nice effort by Mahindra. For people who would not drive more than 100Kms a day, this can act as a safe city car. A car for wife or self to move around in the city and is cheap. Operating cost, 1.5 Rs per KM, at Bangalore rates, compared to minimum of 5Rs per KM on petrol or diesel driven cars in city limits. I get consistently on my Innova a mileage of 18Kmpl when driven at 80KMPH and around 16 driving not more than 100KMPH on highway, but in Bangalore city I get hardly 8Kmpl.

If this is bad, what would you say about people who bought Reva cars in Bangalore with range from 50KMs onwards, with lead acid batteries.

Regarding FAME subsidy, is it not applicable to Nexon EV or is it included?

[DarthVeda]

Originally Posted by pogo0120

On a different scale, I beg to differ with most people here. I think, this is a nice effort by Mahindra. For people who would not drive more than 100Kms a day, this can act as a safe city car. A car for wife or self to move around in the city and is cheap. Operating cost, 1.5 Rs per KM, at Bangalore rates, compared to minimum of 5Rs per KM on petrol or diesel driven cars in city limits. I get consistently on my Innova a mileage of 18Kmpl when driven at 80KMPH and around 16 driving not more than 100KMPH on highway, but in Bangalore city I get hardly 8Kmpl.

If this is bad, what would you say about people who bought Reva cars in Bangalore with range from 50KMs onwards, with lead acid batteries.

Regarding FAME subsidy, is it not applicable to Nexon EV or is it included?

Given the experience Mahindra has, and acquired through REVA, we expect a better product from than this. I am not denying that at this price point might have customers and might be useful at city, but it does nothing to change the mindset that EV is only for city and nothing else. With that thought process, the charging stations will never come and nothing will change.

Speaking of Reva, we have to go back nearly two decades to those times, Is Mahindra competing with that product now?

FAME Subsidy for cars aren't available for personal use, and is only meant for FLEET or COMMERCIAL.

[Candy$Cars]

With a real world range of anywhere of about 100-115kms, it will be a good city/urban car. Looks apart, the ICE Kuv100 is in itself a very practical car for city running. So, this can be a good alternative for those looking for a second car for going to office or for their spouses. Do note, that this is an EV and so is automatic and with subsidies and very low running costs, it is a good option.
I think, it succesfully does what Mahindra wants it to and there definitely is a market for it in big cities booming with IT industries and double-earning households.

[rdst_1]

Does anyone have any idea which batteries and chemistry the Mahindra vehicles will be equipped with.
And any data being provided by them on no of cycles with respect to various DoD rates.

[SKC-auto]

Don't worry about the battery, their no. of cycles...

Modern day EV batteries last long very long. When you use daily between 20% - 80% charge you are actually not using a single cycle, though batteries degrade by age.

I guess Mahindra is using lg chem, hope they use the same batteries for kuv100 also.

Below is a user who has driven 3,45,000 km with only 4% battery degradation on a Renault Zoe, and Zoe does not have liquid cooled battery.

https://twitter.com/RZOC/status/1223...690119685?s=19

[rdst_1]

Originally Posted by SKC-auto

Don't worry about the battery, their no. of cycles...

Modern day EV batteries last long very long. When you use daily between 20% - 80% charge you are actually not using a single cycle, though batteries degrade by age.

I guess Mahindra is using lg chem, hope they use the same batteries for kuv100 also.

Below is a user who has driven 3,45,000 km with only 4% battery degradation on a Renault Zoe, and Zoe does not have liquid cooled battery.

https://twitter.com/RZOC/status/1223...690119685?s=19

Notwithstanding such examples, the only way to judge Li-ion batteries is through the chemistry and rated cycle life on various DoD (depth of discharge) rates.
So you are wrong when you say that not a single cycle is used when used between 20-80%. It is that the rated cycle life is different for different DoD rates and that's what I would like to know.

[TusharK]

Mahindra eKUV100 electric vehicle delayed

According to a media report, the launch of the eKUV100 EV has been delayed due to the outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic.



The eKUV100 was expected to arrive in showrooms later this year, but it has now been reported that Mahindra has deferred the launch of the car.

Mahindra had announced the price of the eKUV100 at the 2020 Auto Expo. Priced at Rs. 8.25 lakh (ex-showroom, India), it was scheduled to go on sale later this year.

The eKUV100 is powered by a 40 kW electric motor that has an output of 53 BHP and 120 Nm. It comes with a 15.9 kWh lithium-ion battery that is claimed to offer a range of 120 km on a single charge.

Mahindra is also planning to introduce the eXUV300 in 2021.

Source

Link to Team-BHP News

[Venkatesh]

Mahindra to launch the eKUV100 in the market in the next three months and it will be targeted at fleet operators.

Pawan Goenka said, “The eKUV100 was showcased at the Auto Expo. With eKUV100 we will focus on shared mobility, this will be India's most affordable electric car and we will be launching it in the next three months.” In fact, the company had announced the price of the car at the Auto Expo 2020 and that was Rs. 8.25 lakh (ex-showroom India).

The eKUV100 will primarily be aimed at fleet operators. If private buyers want it they can buy it, but our marketing communication will be targeted towards fleet operators

https://www.carandbike.com/news/mahi...ls-out-2317552

[DarthVeda]

So this is going the same way as the initial Tigor went, it has 16kwh battery pack, so will give around 100-120km range for city usage and just 53bhp!! lesser I say about it better for it.

[RM Motorsports]

Mahindra EKUV100 India launch by January 2021

- It is a fully electric vehicle that has 54 bhp and 120 Nm on tap
- Powered by a lithium-ion battery that offers a range of 147 km/charge
- EKUV can be charged up to 80% in an hour


Source - Twitter

[airbus]

Originally Posted by GTO

But history has shown us that customers won't buy compromised EVs with poor performance + range, especially from Mahindra. They've had EVs before at slightly lower & slightly higher price points, yet all of them bombed.

Exactly, many of us don't have option to keep a second car and with the pandemic changing way we work, single car should be able to fulfill requirements of commute within city as well as occasional highway drives.

[Torq]

Originally Posted by airbus

Exactly, many of us don't have option to keep a second car and with the pandemic changing way we work, single car should be able to fulfill requirements of commute within city as well as occasional highway drives.

And all this at the correct price point.
Viz., nexon EV is a good VFM but at 16L is too much to expect average people to shell out.
Personally I wouldn't mind a smaller car with bigger and better battery range and electric motor.

[viscosity]

Originally Posted by RM Motorsports

Mahindra EKUV100 India launch by January 2021

- It is a fully electric vehicle that has 54 bhp and 120 Nm on tap
- Powered by a lithium-ion battery that offers a range of 147 km/charge
- EKUV can be charged up to 80% in an hour


Source - Twitter

The 147Km range simply seems too less for even occasional 1 day trips to nearby places. For example, Nandi hills which is a famous 1 day outing destination near Bangalore city is around 75Km from my home so even a to and fro trip which will be 150Km won't work. Such a range means it is strictly for daily commute to work within city limits which is not a good deal.

Personally, I will be in market around 2022 looking for a CUV, SUV around 15Lac OTR price and I am keeping my eyes wide open currently on the evolving EV space as a decision to buy an EV or Petrol will be a big decision for me at that time and it will restrict my options accordingly. Tesla also announced recently that they want to enter India so lets see .

A big question I have in my mind is whether it will really make sense to buy a EV in 2022 as the only car one has, as apart from city commute it will also have to serve the need of occasional highway drives, outstation trips of 3-4 days given that we have so many variables around durability, performance, availability of charging stations around EV. Any thoughts ?

[i74js]

147 km is the the claimed performance, real world would be anywhere between 100 - 120 km (essentially during early years of car when the battery has better range / charge retention).

Add to this, air conditioning and lighting load (depending upon season and day/night driving requirements) and we are looking at a sub-100 km range from a charge.

Does it even make sense?

We are quite far from what mass market adoption expects from car manufacturers.

[Shreyans_Jain]

140km claimed range is going to be a disaster. You are looking at two digit distance in real world conditions. This is going to be another eVerito all over again. KUV is a failed product anyway so not the right platform to showcase new technology.