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Old 23rd January 2020, 10:42   #376
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The first generation of EVs by any manufacturer will be half-baked because it is a completely new power-train. It requires specialised skills & knowledge that cannot be gained overnight. I would never buy the 1st-gen EV from any manufacturer, especially Mahindra & Tata. They can't even roll out brand new petrol / diesel cars without niggles; their EVs are going to be full of them.
I don't completely agree with this statement. it's true that being new to the sector Tata had alot of niggles in the beginning but they have come a long way from that. all their latest offerings are very matured.
Agree a new product will have rough edges when they roll out and that's always been the case and i think it wrong from out side to belittle the efforts they have put in to bring out such wonderful product.
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The frequent calls from TaMo rep to pre-book the Nexon by paying Rs.21K for (as yet unknown) early-bird benefits has stopped.

I'd pre-booked the Venue (and found out the rear wiper/wash is only available with the highest trim) - though paying the Rs21K online is easy/seamless, getting the money back involves going to the dealer, giving license/photo-id copy, payment receipt and a voided cheque (to get my name right) and following up with them.


The Hyundai dealer's (HMP Chennai) customer manager has been kind enough to call me and update on status + apologize for the delay. The Tamo executive promised that if I didn't like the Nexon EV he'd ensure no cancellation fee was levied for returning back the early-bird advance. He didn't promise to make the process with the dealer seamless.


Hopefully that doesn't explain the customer service levels between these companies.

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Old 26th January 2020, 05:15   #378
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Tata Motors Electric Mobility shared a video summarising Nexon Ev media drive sharing a link of the video :

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Old 26th January 2020, 11:58   #379
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Nexon EV is available on display at the Forum mall Kormanagla, Bangalore. Also, test drives available from today. This is as per the TAMO sales rep who was in charge of my booking.
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Old 26th January 2020, 21:14   #380
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Drove the Nexon EV.

Start the car and the only way you know the engine has come on is the display shows N in the centre of the MID.

The car has two drive modes - Sport and Normal (D) modes. Normal has no surprises and accelerates like a petrol car. Sport has good acceleration - nothing too exciting but fast. The issue that one needs to be careful about is that the car continues to accelerate even after removing the foot from the accelerator for about a split second or two. This can be quite unnerving the first time and you have to lift off earlier than you normally do to get the car to slow down as you want it to. It is surprisingly fast for a Tata but isn't anything close to "lightning" as they've advertised. 0-100 in 9.9 seconds.Top speed is 120 kmph which is very much on the lower for the indicated acceleration figures. In the final assessment the Nexon gives you decent acceleration for a TATA SUV but don't expect to be surprised by its pickup as you've come to expect EV's to deliver good acceleration.

The engine as one has come to expect is eerily silent and it's only the wind and tyre noise that intruded into the cabin at any speed.

Suspension is as good as the regular Nexon and very comfortable. That is probably its strongest USP.

Has a range of 250 - 270 kms under normal operating conditions with a mix of highway and city and not too fast driving.

Battery reaches full charge in 60 minutes when connected to fast charging stations. It takes 8 hours to reach full charge when connected to a regular charging station. Tata supplies a charging box to facilitate charging at home.

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The modified front of the Nexon EV:

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The side remains the same with different alloys:

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MID takes the place of the tachometer:

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Flat bottom steering wheel - does not come on the regular Nexon:

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Drive mode selector in place of the gear lever:

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Drove the Nexon EV.

..... Sport has good acceleration - nothing too exciting but fast. ..... It is surprisingly fast for a Tata but isn't anything close to "lightning" ..... don't expect to be surprised by its pickup as you've come to expect EV's to deliver good acceleration.
You call it both surprisingly fast AND YET not exciting. Confusing. How do you find it vis-a-vis Polo TSI? This takes almost a second lesser for dash to century? I would prefer this over Polo. No DSG, no turbo worries.

I saw this video. We can hear the tyres squealing every time he stepped on it.

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Some more points:

1.Wheel spin and resultant tyre squeal is pretty easy to induce in the Nexon EV. In my drive I found the tyre squeal happening more often than the situation warranted. This is obviously due to inadequate tyres which are the same size as the regular Nexon. These tyres cannot handle the faster acceleration and lose traction more than they should.The tyres however should be adequate for most other purposes given that the top speed is only 120kmph.

2. An acceleration figure of 0-100 in 9.9 seconds usually leads to a top speed of around 190 kmph so the 120 kmph top speed can be quite a dampener. EV's are known to be brutally fast but don't expect any of those levels of acceleration here. Additionally if you are used to fast cars like an Octavia the acceleration may not excite you. Of course, what you pay is what you get.

3. Tata claims a range of 310 kms at speeds less than 80 kmph. Expect around 250 kms with normal driving conditions.

4. The higher CG can initially make you feel that the car may not be stable under hard acceleration, but that is not the case. However you are always made aware of the higher CG under acceleration.

5. As mentioned earlier, the Nexon is extremely comfortable and dismisses potholes with ease. Bad roads do not ruffle the car at all and you could drive through pothole ridden roads as you would drive on a good road with a sedan. If your normal driving cycle includes bad roads that slow you down and are a pain to negotiate, look no further - the Nexon will take you through them as if they didn't exist.

6. The price is expected to be between 15 and 19 lakhs according to Tata officials. The official launch is tomorrow so the price will be revealed only then.

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The higher CG can initially make you feel that the car may not be stable under hard acceleration, but that is not the case. However you are always made aware of the higher CG under acceleration.
Surprised to see this. I figured that with the heavy batteries in the floor, the Nexon EV would have a lower CG.
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DC chargers have been installed at Bafna Motors,Pune prior to the vehicle launch.

This one is at Bafna Motors Baner. (previously Concorde Baner)
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Technical specifications of the charger.
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This one is at Bafna Motors,Law College Road.
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it's a 15KW charger, i was hoping it would be at least be 25kw to be called a rapid charger. BESCOM has done a better job than this.
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Are battery cells cylindrical or pouch cells. I tried finding this information but did not get. Ipace uses pouch cells while Tesla is cylindrical.
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2. An acceleration figure of 0-100 in 9.9 seconds usually leads to a top speed of around 190 kmph so the 120 kmph top speed can be quite a dampener. EV's are known to be brutally fast but don't expect any of those levels of acceleration here. Additionally if you are used to fast cars like an Octavia the acceleration may not excite you. Of course, what you pay is what you get.


4. The higher CG can initially make you feel that the car may not be stable under hard acceleration, but that is not the case. However you are always made aware of the higher CG under acceleration.

5. As mentioned earlier, the Nexon is extremely comfortable and dismisses potholes with ease. Bad roads do not ruffle the car at all and you could drive through pothole ridden roads as you would drive on a good road with a sedan. If your normal driving cycle includes bad roads that slow you down and are a pain to negotiate, look no further - the Nexon will take you through them as if they didn't exist.

2. I agree. EVs are brutal in acceleration. I rode in Tesla 3 in Canada and that thing seemed to hit century in 3.5 sec or so. I drove Chevy Bolt in US and even that tiny hatch seemed to hit 100 in 6 sec. But down here, none of the EVs are under-8-sec cars. I think MG EV at 8.5 is the fastest. I am not a speed fiend at all. Just an acceleration lover. I rarely cross 100 kph because (A) of nasty surprises our roads are known to throw at you, and (B) of strict under-80-kph vigil kept by traffic cops in my state, using speed radars. I wouldn't mind a car topping out at 100 but it should get to that 100 in a blink of an eye, to leave the crawlers behind. You get maximum thrills accelerating and not driving constantly even at 250 kph. The most thrilling part of a flight is that take-off run on the runway and not the steady 900 kph cruise at 30,000 feet.


5. That is music to ears. We have more bad stretches than good and hence a high GC car coupled with road-unevenness-soaking ride will be heaven-sent. Please tell me Nexon's suspension is almost as good as Duster's suspension. That would be the icing on the cake.
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But down here, none of the EVs are under-8-sec cars. I think MG EV at 8.5 is the fastest. I am not a speed fiend at all. Just an acceleration lover.
The acceleration as well as top speed have a direct impact on the power drawn by the motors and range.

For a mass market targeting car in India, the top most item in the requirement list after a competitive price is the range. A car that does a 6 second run to the ton but has a 150 km range won't be preferred over a car that does a 10 second 10 and gives 250 km range on a charge. For a car that does a 5 second ton & gives 250 km range - the battery pack cost will rocket up.

So there is a very thin line to walk for these car makers in India at this stage while the customers are still not ready in huge numbers to make the change.
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it's a 15KW charger, i was hoping it would be at least be 25kw to be called a rapid charger. BESCOM has done a better job than this.
Does anyone know the status of the MSEDCL fast chargers that were being built a while ago? I remember one being built at Balewadi high street at Pune.
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Tata Nexon EV will most likely go on sale at 66 dealerships across 30 cities in 12 states as per a Auto car india report sharing the link :

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...exon-ev-415763
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