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Old 16th March 2023, 23:13   #1066
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Re: Review: The Tata Nexon EV

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Fellow Nexon EV owners
Has anyone yet renewed their ZConnect app subscription. My free subscription has expired and the renewal plan seems to be quite expense.
I had renewed it, but definitely recommend NOT renewing it as it never seemss to work. Remote commands almost never work for me and syncing is very erratic.
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Old 5th April 2023, 23:15   #1067
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I would like to keep everyone updated about certain developments with our Nexon EV.

After a year (about 15 months) and 30,000kms later, about two weeks back, we noticed a problem.

If we drive the car to 40% battery or below and switch it off, when you start the next time, the battery shows 10% or 5% charge only. That means, there is a sudden drop in charge by 30 to 35%.

We observed it twice. It used to only happen if the car was switched off <40% charge, but then once we had the same experience when the car was off at 63%.
Hi
Posting this on behalf of my relative who owns Nexon EV Prime XZ+ (20K on the ODO)
They have been facing exactly the same issue from couple of months now.

As seen from the above screenshots, the reduction in range is instantaneous
I personally took the car for a of couple rides and faced the issues both the times. Attaching photos from one of the instance (1 km difference in the odo but the soc has decreased by more than 40%)

As suggested in some posts, I have tried multiple times to charge it from 10% all the way to 100%, and even keeping it plugged-in at 100% for more than an hour (in case this is some calibration issue).

Is there some other solution that I can try?

They plan to take the car to the service center asap now (they couldn't previously as they needed the car for some important run abouts)
My apprehension is that an inexperienced service center will waste time by attempting software upgrade/downgrade solutions before actually calling some expert as in the quoted post's author's case.

My fellow bhpians, can someone suggest a trust worthy Tata workshop in Delhi NCR that can actually handle EVs?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 6th April 2023, 10:01   #1068
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Re: Review: The Tata Nexon EV

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Hi
Posting this on behalf of my relative who owns Nexon EV Prime XZ+ (20K on the ODO)
They have been facing exactly the same issue from couple of months now.

As seen from the above screenshots, the reduction in range is instantaneous
I personally took the car for a of couple rides and faced the issues both the times. Attaching photos from one of the instance (1 km difference in the odo but the soc has decreased by more than 40%)

As suggested in some posts, I have tried multiple times to charge it from 10% all the way to 100%, and even keeping it plugged-in at 100% for more than an hour (in case this is some calibration issue).

Is there some other solution that I can try?

They plan to take the car to the service center asap now (they couldn't previously as they needed the car for some important run abouts)
My apprehension is that an inexperienced service center will waste time by attempting software upgrade/downgrade solutions before actually calling some expert as in the quoted post's author's case.

My fellow bhpians, can someone suggest a trust worthy Tata workshop in Delhi NCR that can actually handle EVs?

Thanks in advance!
Going by our experience, this particular behavior implies that the battery pack need to be replaced. Since it is within the warranty period, all that is needed is taking it to the Tata Service center, explaining the behaviour. I believe they have a standard protocol for handling suspected battery failure cases such as this. In our case, they kept the car there for 3 or 4 days, called a battery expert to diagnose the problem and as per the expert's conclusion, got the pack replaced free of cost and gave the car back. So far no further issues experienced (touch wood!)
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Re: Review: The Tata Nexon EV

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Hi
Posting this on behalf of my relative who owns Nexon EV Prime XZ+ (20K on the ODO)
They have been facing exactly the same issue from couple of months now.

As seen from the above screenshots, the reduction in range is instantaneous
I personally took the car for a of couple rides and faced the issues both the times. Attaching photos from one of the instance (1 km difference in the odo but the soc has decreased by more than 40%)

As suggested in some posts, I have tried multiple times to charge it from 10% all the way to 100%, and even keeping it plugged-in at 100% for more than an hour (in case this is some calibration issue).

Is there some other solution that I can try?

They plan to take the car to the service center asap now (they couldn't previously as they needed the car for some important run abouts)
My apprehension is that an inexperienced service center will waste time by attempting software upgrade/downgrade solutions before actually calling some expert as in the quoted post's author's case.

My fellow bhpians, can someone suggest a trust worthy Tata workshop in Delhi NCR that can actually handle EVs?

Thanks in advance!
The last thing you can try is hard reset to defaults. Just check my post here (Review: The Tata Nexon EV). See if that solves your issue, it solved mine.

Tata should open service centers specific to EVs, so called EV specialists in regular ones are just clueless
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Old 17th April 2023, 16:46   #1070
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Re: Review: The Tata Nexon EV

Off-topic...
IMHO, EVs are NOT the future of mobility unless there's some disruptive new battery technology that can eliminate the range anxiety and make EVs more practical rather than just being cost effective in longer term. Even if there is a new battery tech, would it be affordable and readily available? And what about the ground pollution when all these batteries or certain chemical composites out of them eventually end up in landfills? Micro-plastics have already been found in Antarctic so should we be prepared for a large scale chemical pollution of earth's soil and water?

Environmental factors aside, current EVs have a very specific use case and that is strictly if one has to travel within a certain radius around home. It's nothing like an ICE car where you can go as close as local departmental store or as far as another corner of the country. Think about it... after so many years of smartphone adoption, industry hasn't been able to get over the limitation of battery lasting not more than a day on average even though everyone would like a longer battery life. All we've been able to do is faster charging but that also comes at the cost of battery's lifespan. How different could the case be for EVs in let's say 5-10 years?

Given the current circumstances, I think some incentive for hybrids would be a much welcome move since there's a lot of fuel saving and a person is not stranded incase car runs out of battery. Cars and fuel in India are anyway taxed as a sin good so any relaxation on upfront cost of hybrids and a resultant fuel saving would be much better received by the market.
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Off-topic...
IMHO, EVs are NOT the future of mobility unless there's ......
Polite request, there are relevant threads in this forum for this discussion, the Nexon EV review thread isn't one of them. Imagine a maruti review thread being bombarded by posts regarding the drawbacks of oil drilling, hydrocarbon emissions, polluted cities etc...etc...
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Hi
Posting this on behalf of my relative who owns Nexon EV Prime XZ+ (20K on the ODO)
They have been facing exactly the same issue from couple of months now.

As seen from the above screenshots, the reduction in range is instantaneous
I personally took the car for a of couple rides and faced the issues both the times. Attaching photos from one of the instance (1 km difference in the odo but the soc has decreased by more than 40%)

As suggested in some posts, I have tried multiple times to charge it from 10% all the way to 100%, and even keeping it plugged-in at 100% for more than an hour (in case this is some calibration issue).

Is there some other solution that I can try?

They plan to take the car to the service center asap now (they couldn't previously as they needed the car for some important run abouts)
My apprehension is that an inexperienced service center will waste time by attempting software upgrade/downgrade solutions before actually calling some expert as in the quoted post's author's case.

My fellow bhpians, can someone suggest a trust worthy Tata workshop in Delhi NCR that can actually handle EVs?

Thanks in advance!
UPDATE: Got the issue resolved which involved changing the battery pack.

Initially the service centre tried resetting the car and sent her back assuring that they will properly investigate if the the issue re-appeared
(They didn’t also bother to charge the car and returned it with 12% SoC )
However the issue happened again the very next day
This time the service centre folks were more prompt and called in a “EV expert”.
They kept the car for 4 days during which the battery pack was replaced.

The car has been working fine from the last 2 weeks with proper range and expected charging times.
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Old 30th April 2023, 11:42   #1074
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Re: Review: The Tata Nexon EV

6 Months and 6000 km update -

MODEL - Nexon Ev Dark XZ+
Delivery Day - 28.11.22
ODO - 6452

I got the Nexon EV home after testing as many as 14 different cars!

Here is a brief summary - ( Note - Cars with atrocious waiting periods were not considered )

1 : MG ZS EV - Rejected due to similar space as a Nexon for 2x money.
2: Jeep Compass - Was on the verge of booking it, however horror stories of breakdowns in the middle of nowhere by bhpians kept me away.
3: Harrier - Solid car , cheaper and bigger than the compass for the same engine, however poor interiors and absence of critical features like rear discs / 360 camera kept me away.
4: Hyrider and GV - Matchbox like build , 3 Pot engine were deal breakers.
5: Taigun - Was only looking at the 1.5 TSI , however fear of poor City FE and compact dimensions as compared to the Koreans kept me away.
6: Virtus - Much bigger than the Taigun for similar money, however concerns regarding City FE and questionable interior quality were deal breakers.
7: 2022 Tucson - The best car I drove during my search, only to be dismissed due to my budget.
8: Hector / H Plus - Supremely comfortable , value for money car. Rejected due non-availability of a Diesel AT.
9 : Breeza - I had actually made up my mind to cut a cheque for this no-nonsense car after getting pissed off by my car buying stint. ZXI AT was costing approx 14.5L on road , and there was no way I was going to pay this much for a sub-compact SUV.
10 : Nexon EV Dark - The obnoxious pricing of the Breeza made the Nexon EV a value for money buy at 15.75 OTR. (Thanks to the 1.5L subsidy and year end discounts)
Ready stock with the dealer was an icing on the cake and hence , a cheque was immediately signed.

I am sure everyone living in metros must be seeing as many Nexon Ev’s as their ICE counterparts. Such is the popularity of this little beast.*And after using it as my daily for exactly 6 months, here is a detailed review for my folks !


THE GOOD

Running Costs

* This is the best thing about EVs at the moment. Cheaper to run than a Activa, that too by a healthy 50% margin. Gone are the days I used to worry about burning fuel at traffic jams. Man, do I love to idol this car *


Acceleration / NVH*

* Is insane in Sport mode. So much that it’s dangerous to use within the city. Overtaking on highways is now entertaining. The car wheel spins when accelerating at low speeds. CRAZY!!
* NVH levels? Non- Existent!

Build, Ground clearance, and Suspension setup*

* The car is very well built. No rattles yet. The doors are thick, twice as thick as the Grand Vitara
* Healthy 205mm of GC is more than sufficient to take on the marvelously engineered speed breakers of our country. Suspension is softly sprung and the car glides over undulations and potholes at low speeds.

Road Presence and Interior quality*

* Superior road presence is the best thing about the dark edition. The car looks hot in black and I would rate the design on par with the Virtus GT. The rear design is an eye-sore, in an otherwise well-designed product.*

* Black leatherette seats feel superior and well cushioned and the overall design and layout look clean and smart. The 7” Touchscreen unit is of adequate size and looks sleek coming out of the dash.**


THE BAD

City Range

* I’m only able to squeeze out about 160-170 km of range per charge as most of my driving is in bumper-to-bumper traffic. However, on open roads, the range goes up to 220 Km. I need to plug in the vehicle at about the 120-130 km mark on the trip meter. The average Wh/km stays between 160-180. Not very happy about this.*

Poor Ergonomics

* The cup holders are very small and are in effect only able to take in cups and small bottles. I need to keep my 700 ml steel bottles in the door storage area or on the seats where they keep rolling up and down. Never faced such a problem in any other car.*
* Everything you keep in the cubby holes will rattle when the car moves. Bottles, car keys, pens, everything.*
* Poor under-thigh support for both the front and rear seats. Also, the rear seat recline angle is a little upright, which is uncomfortable for long journeys. Overall, comfort is unpleasant.
*

Cheap misses

* No LED headlamps in an ELECTRIC CAR?*
* No rear cabin light? You make a car with all-black interiors, how is the rear passenger supposed to find his things post sunset?*
* NO ECO Mode? It’s an EV. Even a Tiago gets one.*

Stiff steering / Handling*

* Steering is very stiff at low speeds. Even stiffer at highway speeds.*
* Handling is not very good and there is body roll at high speeds. Makes you miss a sedan.*
* The suspension bottoms out if you hit a pothole at slightly higher speeds. Never happened in my Verna or WagonR.*

Brakes and Hill Hold

* The brakes are good, however, when using sport mode, you feel the need for rear discs and/ or sharper brake bite.*
* Hill Hold, something I feel should be standard in every automatic car, is missing.*


THE UGLY

I faced a breakdown exactly 7 days after delivery. Unacceptable, proves that TATA still has a lot of ground to cover. Full ordeal here -
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UPDATE 6/12/22

The car was towed at around 7 pm yesterday ( 4.5 Hours after incident) and dropped at Puneet Auto Worli within an hour.

CONCLUSION

* The Nexon EV has more cons than pros. But I would still recommend it to people.*
* 3 Most important things in a car according to me are its Engine (Heart, in this case, an electric motor churning 130 BHP/ 250NM, almost instantly, in a subcompact suv!!), Build (5-star-rated Body) and Design. And this mighty car nails all these things with Thor’s hammer!*
* Where it disappoints, is in the next 3 most important things, Reliability (TATA), Ergonomics (TATA), and possibly Resale value (Early EV)*
* Note the first Pro and the first Con on my list. And make your decision. Period.**


Answering some famous YouTube Questions -

Why the Nexon EV?

* Upfront subsidy of 1.5L and humble running costs have sealed my fate with the Nexon EV for the next 5 years.*

Would I buy the same car again?*

* Not without the subsidy.*
* I miss the BIG CAR feel. If I could get my money back, I would save it for a compass or a Tucson.*

Am I environmentally conscious?*

* As I have already mentioned, I am more concerned about saving money and not the planet. People concerned about the latter should buy a cycle or use public transport.*
* We all know how electricity is produced in our country. However, all of the new capacity expansions have been done using renewable sources. Bravo!
* Even if an EV is charged using a non-renewable source, remember it does not affect your immediate environment. Flooring your Ev will not produce any smoke.*
* With Ev’s, the air we breathe will be cleaner.*
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Old 1st May 2023, 09:26   #1075
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*The car looks hot in black*
And in summers it would feel too

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* I’m only able to squeeze out about 160-170 km of range per charge as most of my driving is in bumper-to-bumper traffic. However, on open roads, the range goes up to 220 Km. I need to plug in the vehicle at about the 120-130 km mark on the trip meter. The average Wh/km stays between 160-180. Not very happy about this.*
I am assuming AC was ON during these sessions. The efficiency depends on the speed, elevation changes, AC, # of people in the car/weight. All of these affect the range, and in case of ICE cars, mileage. It is just that it is easily identifiable on EV. You can go at night on the same route when there would be very minimal traffic and without AC and you can see a good chunk decrease in wh/km.

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* NO ECO Mode? It’s an EV. Even a Tiago gets one.*
Max gets it and in Prime, D mode is eco, honestly speaking, eco mode can be achieved with your foot itself, you don't need it.

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* Hill Hold, something I feel should be standard in every automatic car, is missing.*
This needed rear disc brakes, which the max gets and you get this in MAX and not prime. Pseudo hill hold (only works on up hill) is present by manipulating the accelerator for creep.

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I faced a breakdown exactly 7 days after delivery. Unacceptable, proves that TATA still has a lot of ground to cover. Full ordeal here -
Was it Battery HV error? and car went into limp mode?

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* We all know how electricity is produced in our country. However, all of the new capacity expansions have been done using renewable sources. Bravo!
* Even if an EV is charged using a non-renewable source, remember it does not affect your immediate environment. Flooring your Ev will not produce any smoke.*
* With Ev’s, the air we breathe will be cleaner.*
The mix of electricity varies from state to state, Karnataka has 60% from renewables, and there is always the option of having solar panel at your home which cannot be said for fuel variants.
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Re: Review: The Tata Nexon EV

Hello all,

Having an odd issue with my Nexon EV. Recently sent the car for service and I let the in-charge know of the following issues

1. The car would enter limited performance mode while showing HV Battery System Fault and would be stuck on Neutral.

The issue seems to be fixed but there's a new problem:

While driving and accelerating normally in 'D' mode, there's a brief but noticeable 'jerk' as the car reaches 50kph and the throttle is seriously limited. Even after jamming the A pedal to the floor, the power meter does not exceed the first two white lines in the green 'ECO' zone. Is this a recent software update and do other Nexon EVs also face this issue? This happens regardless of battery SoC level. I generally drive with a feather light foot and can extract 250kms in city conditions so no complaints about the range. Car has done barely 12k kms in 24 months of ownership. There are no errors on the dashboard, no faults indicated, just dulled performance.

You can imagine how problematic this is when I try to merge onto an expressway with the car struggling to touch 60kph. I have dropped the car for service and fingers crossed, they find a solution but so far Tata is clueless.

I would appreciate any insights from fellow TBHPians.
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And in summers it would feel too


I am assuming AC was ON during these sessions. The efficiency depends on the speed, elevation changes, AC, # of people in the car/weight. All of these affect the range, and in case of ICE cars, mileage. It is just that it is easily identifiable on EV. You can go at night on the same route when there would be very minimal traffic and without AC and you can see a good chunk decrease in wh/km.


Max gets it and in Prime, D mode is eco, honestly speaking, eco mode can be achieved with your foot itself, you don't need it.


This needed rear disc brakes, which the max gets and you get this in MAX and not prime. Pseudo hill hold (only works on up hill) is present by manipulating the accelerator for creep.


Was it Battery HV error? and car went into limp mode?
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Hahaha it does get extremely hot when parked under the sun. However I am lucky to have access to covered parking in most situations

Yes AC is always on in my case. There are 2 people in the car at most times. Sunday morning drives on the same route help me achieve a low of 120 - 130 wh/km, with AC on.

This car definitely needs rear disc breaks.
It wasn't an HV error, Attaching a photo below. The car refused to shift to D mode! Had to get it towed, and to add salt to the wound, Tata RSA took 4 hours to send the towing truck
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Got the 6 Months Service Done yesterday!

ODO - 6500 +
- Total Bill - 6014 including around 1800 rupees for 3M exterior polishing which I opted for voluntarily. ( I feel this is value for money as 3M charges a whopping 8000 for both interior and exterior detailing job. The car had innumerable micro scratches all around and this job eliminated most of them.

- 6 months service only demands for Transmission oil change which costed 1850 Rs.
- Apart from this, alignment and wheel balancing was also performed, costing 1100 Rs.
- Couple of procedures costing around 300-500 each were performed such as Engine bay cleaning ( No.7) and lubricating some parts such as roof rails / door hinges and stoppers for monsoons ( No.2), which I could have avoided but gave my go ahead as they were not very expensive.
He also gave me an estimate / and suggestion of 900 Rs for AC disinfection which I opted against.
Attaching a copy of the invoice.
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It wasn't an HV error, Attaching a photo below. The car refused to shift to D mode! Had to get it towed, and to add salt to the wound, Tata RSA took 4 hours to send the towing truck
They say EVs are like cell-phones. You switch it off, switch it back on, it resets itself and problem goes away; since an EV is 90% computer. I have seen some youtubers saying they lock their car, walk away for 10 min, return to car, re-try and everything works normal like nothing ever happened. In some cases, they disconnect negative terminal of aux. battery and reconnect after 15 min and problem goes away. IMO, anyone facing issues should try these first. I guess 8 out of 10 times, it works. That's what I infer from multiple videos I have seen.
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My Brother got a Nexon EV Prime XM+ (Base model in the Nexon EV range). He got it in Signature Teal Blue Colour. HYSON TATA, Thrissur is the dealership from where he bought the car. The salesperson was very friendly and the delivery experience was very smooth. Getting used to this whole charging infrastructure fiasco as KSEB outlets are mostly crowded. Battling range anxiety on some days but other than that, a pretty smooth experience! With a full load of passengers (5 healthy individuals) and a fully filled boot, we got a decent range of around 220 Kms (AC on always and Regen at the max level). Couldn't use cruise control on many occasions as some or the other gentleman will pop out of no where on narrow Kerala highways. Did three reasonably large trips namely (1) Thrissur to Kochi/Nedumbassery International Airport and back; (2) Thrissur to Kozhikode and back; (3) Thrissur to Thamarassery ghats and back. The vehicle was very stable through the corners and the instant torque, especially in S drive mode is very addictive (at the cost of range of course). Had a close call with a Tata Ace in Kochi city at 50 Kmph, luckily was able to escape with no fender bender incident. All I did was lift off the accelerator pedal at Max Regen and made a controlled yet quick evasive manoeuvre. Certainly a heart in mouth moment but the Nexon EV handled it like a charm!

Accessories added at the dealership level are Rear Parcel Tray, floor mats, carpets, 3M Teflon coating with 2 re-coats (one in 6 months time and another at the end of the year), wind/rain deflectors on all 4 doors and removable netted sun blinds. Will be adding factory alloys from the dealership next year to spruce up the ownership experience while changing the tyres as we don't think the LRR tyres will last an year especially since we keep using the Sport Mode every now and then

Overall a good ownership experience (touch wood). We covered more than 1000 Kms in a week of owning the car. Hoping to see many more 100 thousand kms on this beauty.

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