[LEGION_FIVE]

Originally Posted by Doonite

What's the point of driving an EV if you have to worry about an 'n' number of things for the vehicle to deliver what it's supposed to? Even as a second car, i wouldn't recommend anyone because the products have teething issues and the infrastructure simply doesn't exist to support peace of mind driving an EV.

Rather than acknowledging that the car does have an issue as user iceguy101 shared, people start questioning all sorts of things or sharing their own excerpts. I'm sure the different service centre folks and the Tata experts who visited OP's home would've asked each and every question.

On the forum itself, i can recall that atleast 2 people have had their Nexon's battery pack replaced under warranty.

I sincerely hope that Tata resolves the issues in OP's car.

New technology will almost always have issues, especially at the outset. Contrary to popular belief, the Ford Model T wasn't a flawless automobile, neither did refueling infrastructure was abundant in the US back then. But to paint everything with a single stroke of brush, making generalizations and then compounding it with false claims such as non-existent charging infrastructure is just irresponsible. I own a Nexon EV and I've taken the car to the remotest corners of India where there actually are no chargers and I've been just fine because there are plenty of mods out there to tackle those situations. Down in the plains, however, the charging infra is adequate. Not great but adequate. I drive the car from Dehradun to Chandigarh and Delhi and back every few weeks and I've never faced any issues because there are enough chargers installed along the highways I use. Might I suggest installing the Plugshare app if you're having trouble locating charging points.

[Lobogris]

Originally Posted by Doonite

What's the point of driving an EV if you have to worry about an 'n' number of things for the vehicle to deliver what it's supposed to? Even as a second car, i wouldn't recommend anyone because the products have teething issues and the infrastructure simply doesn't exist to support peace of mind driving an EV.

The infrastructure is quite good and has been for the past couple of years. My ZS EV is my only vehicle and I have absolutely no issues driving it across India.

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

Have dropped the car with TASC and awaiting their "analysis". Let's see how it goes - fingers crossed.

Okay, so the latest update is that the battery pack on my Nexon EV Prime has been replaced by Tata Motors under warranty, at ZERO expense from my end.

Once I dropped the car at Prerana Motors, Peenya, Bengaluru, they took 3 days to diagnose the issue and confirm approval on replacement under warranty. The bottleneck was the so-called "battery engineer" group, members of which keep shuttling across various Tata Motors dealerships in the city to diagnose battery pack issues and approve replacement under warranty. So, once a dealership logs a battery pack issue with this group, they will allot an engineer to the case who will arrive at site (depending on his availability/schedule) and inspect the battery pack. In my case it took 3 days post which I was told that I can collect the car and they will call me once the new pack is in place. I was given a tentative timeline of 10-14 days for the battery pack to arrive, and just as I was getting impatient (2 weeks from the day I picked the car up), I got a call that my new battery pack had arrived. I dropped the car at the workshop and picked it back up after 3 days, post replacement. It has now been about 10 days and I've driven the car about 450 km since replacement of the pack - so far so good. Am getting a real-world range of about 190-195 km, which is more than enough for me. Most importantly, the battery drain is now consistent and predictable, reinstating my confidence to use the car till a low SOC%. Will report back in case the issue resurfaces.

To sum up my experience with the dealership, it was quite average. Given the huge load of cars they get everyday (just like any other Tata ASC), expecting them to provide me with proactive updates was unrealistic They did, however, revert promptly every time I reached out to them for updates. I'd rate them a 3/5.

[bronco]

Tata Passenger Electric Mobility has an event scheduled tonight at 8pm. Has all 3 EVs in thumbnail. Any special editions planned?!

https://www.youtube.com/live/Dvl57E72CpI?feature=share

[aim120]

Originally Posted by bronco

Tata Passenger Electric Mobility has an event scheduled tonight at 8pm. Has all 3 EVs in thumbnail. Any special editions planned?!

https://www.Youtube.com/live/Dvl57E72CpI?feature=share

This was just a drone light show. Don't waste your time watching this.

[KingAlec]

Am a new Nexon EV Prime XZ+ Dark edition owner. Have run the car some 1200 odd km already before coming here to post my thoughts.

Some observations:
1. Fantastic pick-up, even in Drive mode. Sports mode acceleration skips some heartbeats everytime. Feels like am sitting in a speeding metro. Fantastic. To give a context, my earlier car was ciaz.

2. The Estimated range to empty calculator is hard coded to favour regen level 3, and is messed up.

In the initial days, just because I saw improved range calculations, I would maximise my driving in regen 3 mode, even on the NH which comes in my office route. And I would hardly get 200km for a full charge. Wh/km would be somewhere around 150.

And then I got tired of this whole regen 3 business and decided to give regen 1 level a go, only based on my intuition and past experience of coasting my ciaz along the highway to get a decent mileage of 18-19 kmpl tank to tank.

And guess what - the same applies here too. Now, in regen level 1, although the estimated range always shows less compared to regen level 3, in reality, a Wh/km of 125 is easily achieved. Use the AC intermittently on need to cool basis and voila... last two full cycles I have been extracting 250 odd kms with around 8-9% SOC remaining - pegging the range at around 270km for the entire 100%.

3. Some experienced teambhp members had earlier commented - the range gets better as the car covers more miles. Could be the case, but the regen level 3 still delivers wattage of around 150 Wh/km so I guess that might not be at play here.

4. A very important point - my home to office to home 40km route has quite some empty stretches of NH 48. (Hint: Delhi - Gurugram NH 48 in the morning and Dundahera locality in evening). So regen level 1 seems to be working for me. It may not work for you.

5. My initial impression - every new owner of Nexon EV Prime or EV Max should ignore the estimated range and experiment with the regen levels to optimize their bang for the buck.

6. Also - plain old coasting on empty road works in EV as good as it works in petrol. Do try it in regen 1 and let me know what you think.

7. Headlights - poor headlights. My old car had bright whiteLED headlights. Driving an EV with Halogen lamps feels like a bad downgrade. The only downgrade. Experienced members - please guide on the cost and warranty implications of upgrading to LED headlights. Any good suggestions in Delhi NCR region?

8. Thoughts needed: Lately I have seen so many posts regarding nexon ev owners going through a tough time with their batteries and BMS after fast charging. I am happily charging the car from below 10% levels to 100% everytime using my slow charger and my requirements are stricly home to office to home (thanks to my other road tripping Ecosport petrol car). No issues like sudden SOC drops and all (till now).
But I am slowly falling into fear of fast chargers and do not want to do fast charging as much as possible. And once I decide that - the range anxiety hits. Experienced nexon ev owners - is this fear warranted? Any tips on how to identify good fast chargers? Should I try the Tata Motors fast chargers? Statiq? Kazam? Which ones are good for the car which ones are unreliable and may take the BMS for a ride? All inputs are welcome.

Also - have named the car - DARKTANK. Thinking of getting custom bonnet badging done in matte black. Tried the Carmatic whatsapp chat - they are yet to reply. Any tips in this regard?

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by KingAlec

Am a new Nexon EV Prime XZ+ Dark edition owner. Have run the car some 1200 odd km already before coming here to post my thoughts.

2. The Estimated range to empty calculator is hard coded to favour regen level 3, and is messed up.

In the initial days, just because I saw improved range calculations, I would maximise my driving in regen 3 mode, even on the NH which comes in my office route. And I would hardly get 200km for a full charge. Wh/km would be somewhere around 150.

Guess what Regen 0 will give even better range if you know what you are doing. I was initially apprehensive of this mode but slowly added it into by driving repertoire. It is useful for nearly empty roads and is often much better than cruise control.



Here is an explanation on why regen can be bad
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...ml#post5583153 (Aggressive regen can actually reduce an EV's range on the highway | The science behind it)

There is another thing that I noticed at least with my style of driving. If you have an empty road Eco mode is really good (with regen 0 of course) but if you are in busy traffic (particularly dual carriage roads like the L&T road in Palakkad-Coimbatore) it is City mode that really shines and gives a much smoother drive. It is a bit counterintuitive. Sports mode I hardly use, may be put it on once but I think it is a safety hazard and does not make much sense. (Nexon EV max for me).

I find that with AC and kerala Highways (not the best) the typical mileage is abotu 110 Wh/km for long drives.

[KingAlec]

Originally Posted by electric_eel

Guess what Regen 0 will give even better range if you know what you are doing. I was initially apprehensive of this mode but slowly added it into by driving repertoire. It is useful for nearly empty roads and is often much better than cruise control.

Good idea. Will try regen 0 mode too in the empty stretches!

Originally Posted by electric_eel

Here is an explanation on why regen can be bad
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...ml#post5583153 (Aggressive regen can actually reduce an EV's range on the highway | The science behind it)

Good, intuitive read.

Originally Posted by electric_eel

There is another thing that I noticed at least with my style of driving. If you have an empty road Eco mode is really good (with regen 0 of course) but if you are in busy traffic (particularly dual carriage roads like the L&T road in Palakkad-Coimbatore) it is City mode that really shines and gives a much smoother drive. It is a bit counterintuitive.

Guess there is a lot which is still to be figured out in EV tech, and constant experimenting is the only way to know what works best for one.

Originally Posted by electric_eel

I find that with AC and kerala Highways (not the best) the typical mileage is abotu 110 Wh/km for long drives.

110 Wh/Km is commendable. How many kilometers are your typical long drives?

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by KingAlec

110 Wh/Km is commendable. How many kilometers are your typical long drives?

I had a PKD-TVM-PKD trip which is about (total about 700) and I got something like 109 Wh/Km both directions. The forward direction was via Kollam and the return had even ghat section MC road/Ranni (both accent and descent).

I also did multiple shorter PKD-Coimbatore-PKD (round trip about 130 Kms) and have got similar efficiency 112 Wh/Km. PKD-Coimbatore section is a climb and I get about 130-135 Wh/km.

However I should note that my AC is usually at something like 25 (automatic control) and the ambient temp is generally good may be early 30s. It might be difficult at higher temperatures. The best run I had was a 310 km round trip at 100-17 SoC but the forward trip was without AC as the climate was really good

[wocanak]

Originally Posted by KingAlec

8. Thoughts needed: Lately I have seen so many posts regarding nexon ev owners going through a tough time with their batteries and BMS after fast charging. I am happily charging the car from below 10% levels to 100% everytime using my slow charger and my requirements are stricly home to office to home (thanks to my other road tripping Ecosport petrol car). No issues like sudden SOC drops and all (till now).
But I am slowly falling into fear of fast chargers and do not want to do fast charging as much as possible. And once I decide that - the range anxiety hits. Experienced nexon ev owners - is this fear warranted? Any tips on how to identify good fast chargers? Should I try the Tata Motors fast chargers? Statiq? Kazam? Which ones are good for the car which ones are unreliable and may take the BMS for a ride? All inputs are welcome.

The crowd wisdom so far:

• In the south Zeon is one of the best providers, near Delhi it maybe Jio BP, but not sure.
• Jio BP or Glida/Fortrum is likely to be in a mall near your place. A nearby mall charger is a good way to try it first.
• Stop fast charging before it hits 90%, anyway it becomes very slow after ~80% and many problems seem to happen when charging to 100%. You can set charging limit on Zconnect (for Max at least) or stop manually.
• Make sure to use slow charging to 100% after 3 or 4 fast charging.
• My experience with Tata Power has been reasonable, they have the most extensive network. It will be difficult to avoid them, so that is another option.
• Lastly avoid charging to 100% and leaving it unused for many days.

[Shresth_EV]

Originally Posted by KingAlec

2. The Estimated range to empty calculator is hard coded to favour regen level 3, and is messed up.

Definitely feel the same

Every once in a while my parents exclaim in happiness “Look it’s showing 300+” and I have to give them reality check that it won’t give that much because consumption will always be >120Wh/km

I think it’s deliberate to make users feel that the range is “close to ARAI” when it’s far from it (well, not that far, about 50km far)

a Wh/km of 125 is easily achieved. Use the AC intermittently on need to cool basis and voila... last two full cycles I have been extracting 250 odd kms with around 8-9% SOC remaining - pegging the range at around 270km for the entire 100%

This is in line with our prime as well, getting around 250km in city. 220-230 on hwy at 60-70 cruise because the even the NHs in UP have lots of cuts and you can never reach triple digits

7. Headlights - poor headlights. Experienced members - please guide on the cost and warranty implications of upgrading to LED headlights. Any good suggestions in Delhi NCR region?

This is the first thing I upgraded the day we decided on taking it on the hwy. I did DIY upgrade and bought the lights from Amazon.

I’m personally running 20W Philips UltinonPro on the lows and 45W Minda on the highs. Both are less wattage than the 55W OEM halos on all four bulbs so it should be fine warranty wise.

I’m not based out in NCR though so I won’t be able to suggest shops for fitment. As such, this was my first time DIYing on any car so far in the household. And it was quite easy for me to swap out the bulbs for new ones and then doing alignment using Allen Key

[KingAlec]

Originally Posted by Shresth_EV

Definitely feel the same

I’m personally running 20W Philips UltinonPro on the lows and 45W Minda on the highs. Both are less wattage than the 55W OEM halos on all four bulbs so it should be fine warranty wise.

I’m not based out in NCR though so I won’t be able to suggest shops for fitment. As such, this was my first time DIYing on any car so far in the household. And it was quite easy for me to swap out the bulbs for new ones and then doing alignment using Allen Key

Great job! Any links on amazon for both philips and Minda bulbs please?

Will check with the service center guys and will install it soon.

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by KingAlec

7. Headlights - poor headlights. My old car had bright whiteLED headlights. Driving an EV with Halogen lamps feels like a bad downgrade. The only downgrade. Experienced members - please guide on the cost and warranty implications of upgrading to LED headlights. Any good suggestions in Delhi NCR region?

You can upgrade to blaupunkt leds being provided by Tata officially. Most dealers have them available. Set of 4 is available for Rs. 12300. People in our EV group got it installed from Treo Okhla. This will make sure that you don't have any warranty issues in future.

And don't be worried for fast charging, there is no big impact to the battery due to the same if done once in while like an out of city trip.

[Shresth_EV]

Originally Posted by ferrarirules

You can upgrade to blaupunkt leds being provided by Tata officially. Most dealers have them available. Set of 4 is available for Rs. 12300.

Ah, I was unaware there was official upgrade being offered when I upgraded 2y ago. How much watts are these?

Originally Posted by KingAlec

Great job! Any links on amazon for both philips and Minda bulbs please?

Philips : https://www.amazon.in/PHILIPS-H7-Ult.../dp/B0BXD7KBZZ

Minda Unit is currently showing unavailable

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by Shresth_EV

Ah, I was unaware there was official upgrade being offered when I upgraded 2y ago. How much watts are these?

These are 55w each same as the stock headlamp. They just started offering it a month back